Striker, just checking, but are you implying that this year's BYU team,
that managed a whole 13 points against Utah at home, would have beaten UCLA?
Nothing more pathetic than BYU fan trying to rationalize some way that their
team is somehow better than Utah. Your team got hammered at home in the
head-to-head matchup with the Utes THIS year. Sound familiar? It should. For
all of the useless stats, numbers, rankings, etc. that you keep throwing out,
you still know deep in your hearts that Utah is flat out better than BYU right
now, and has been for the last several years. Sure BYU was better 20-30 years
ago. My family had season tickets at Cougar Stadium and I saw up close the
Y's dominance. Them days is long past. Scoreboard! Who's your Daddy
I rarely ever look at ute blogs because I don't care, but this is an
intriguing matchup and wanted to see what people were saying. First, I'm
amazed, but not surprised, at the infatuation u fans have with BYU. I started
to count how many references were made to BYU and stopped at 25 because those
were too many, and most talking about BYU on their own. That is really pathetic
and u fans are so obsessed with BYU it's hilarious!PAC
Arrogance"Others man up and embrace playing Oregon, UCLA, ASU,
Stanford, Michigan. You think byu or usu would have had as close of a game
against UCLA?"BYU played UCLA and had a 2/3 winning record in
one year, including a 59-0 LA-is-burning-down destruction of UCLA. Utah
couldn't even beat them. BYU also in recent past annihilated Oregon and
Oregon State. Don't sit here and say BYU could never compete. They have a
series with Arizona, USC, and just announced today, Stanford. It
will be a long time before I read these ute blogs because it reeks of 110%
arrogance. Good grief to these unfathomable, arrogant, illogical comments.
@uteology"But we have one on the road in bowl game, AP #4
Bama."Actually based on utah "fan" standards that is
false. alabama finished 6th in the final rankings and according to utah
"fans" the final rankings are the only ones that matter. otherwise BYU
gets credit for beating #3 pitt, #1 miami, #2 oklahoma, #5 KSU, etc.if not utah gets no credit for beating a top 5 team because they never have
beaten a top 5 team based on utah "fan" standards. Funny how hypocrisy
tends to be exposed.
@spokane ute"Let's forgo all the stats and figures from
years gone past, shall we? Who won, on the field, this year? the year before?
the year before? the year before?"If we are forgoing "all
the stats and figures from years gone past" then why are we supposed to
discuss "the year before? the year before? the year before?"? Oh because discussing those "years gone past" are what you think
benefits your argument while discusssing the "years gone past" that BYU
won doesn't help you at all. Typical utah "fan" hypocrite.
TOO, Batman is trash, Superman would beat him every time. ;)
Stanford 31 Utah 21.
UteologyIt's interesting that you correctly stated that
"Miami did not finish the 1990 season ranked #1". (The defending NC
Hurricanes finished #3 in 1990.)But you chose to conveniently
overlook the fact that Alabama did not finish the 2008 season ranked #4. (The
Crimson Tide finished #6 in 2008.)btw, if BYU playing a big five
conference team on the road is like playing a D2 team, doesn't that make
Utah finishing their season every year playing Colorado like adopting a D2 team
as Utah's new "rival"?The Buffs were 5-21 in 2011 and
2012; Virginia was 12-13 in 2011 and 2012, including wins versus then #12 Ga
Tech (same team Utah barely beat in the Sun Bowl) and versus then #25 Florida
St.The crimson-colored bubble that Utah fans constantly live in is
@PAC12Snide:"Struggling in the PAC 12 is vastly better than
playing nobodies in a nobody conference where nobody cares. "So,
until "The PAC-12 Utah Men" actually beat a member of their conference
with a winning record, we'll just refer to them as "The PAC-12
@Solomon Levi: Utah hasn't beaten a Top 5 team at home... EVER!But we have one on the road in bowl game, AP #4 Bama.@Pavalova:
Btw, must be nice to have so many home games to start the year. Has the U even
traveled to play anyone besides going to Provo?No. Has BYU traveled
to play a real team besides Keeton-less Utah State?No, Virginia does
not count. That's like playing a D2 team on the road.
'Utes football: Utah hosts another ranked opponent — No. 5 Stanford
— at home this week'How rad is that? Freaking
phenomenally rad!More exciting to host conference opponent #5
Stanford, than New Mexico or Colorado State...! lolGo Utes! Offense
and defense, unite! You CAN defeat The Tree!
No chance for Utah
@Pac 12 PrideThat little brother mentality really comes through
strong when, even in an article that has nothing to do with BYU, you just cant
help trying talk smack about BYU. And your smack is WEAK! You emphasize the
weakest teams on BYU's schedule while emphasizing the strongest on
Utah's schedule, conveniently forgetting to mention the Weber State and
Colorado (one of worst D1 teams in nation) games on your schedule, while
overlooking the Texas, Wisconsin, Boise State and Notre Dame games on BYU's
schedule. Only somebody whose name references their conference pride, rather
than their TEAM pride could have that much insecurity in their own team. Good
luck making it to a bowl game... AGAIN!
Utes will get punked this week
Chris B,That is some spin and you call BYU fans delusional!!! You have a
lot of If's in your first post but the fact is you lost!!! Plain and
simple, just like BYU lost to Utah!!! Both games were decided by the same point
differential and both losing teams had the ball and had good drives stopped by
interceptions that sealed the games for the winning teams!!! BYU has moved on
from their loss and Utah needs to do the same!!! I think Stanford has too many
weapons for the Utes to win but I also think it will depend on turnovers!!! If
Utah can win or be close in the turn over battle they will be close and maybe
even upset Stanford!!!Go BYU!!!
Spokane UteApparently, not too many agree with your one game,
head-to-head, winner takes all spin.Sagarin's Latest
Rankings#29 BYU#34 Utah#38 Utah StUSA Today's
Latest Rankings#37 BYU#49 Utah#58 Utah StCBS
Sports Latest Bowl ProjectionsBYU vs Ore St - Kraft Fight HungerUSU
vs Arizona - Las VegasUtah - couch potatoThings can certainly
change by season's end, but currently, BYU is winning the race for in-state
Spokane Ute"Let's forgo all the stats and figures from
years gone past, shall we? Who won, on the field, this year? the year before?
the year before? the year before?"Why?Who won the
head-to-head, on the field, between Alabama and Texas A&M last season?Who won the national championship?When you can honestly answer,
without any spin, why Alabama won the 2012 national championship, instead of
Texas A&M, then, you'll have your answer why one game does not a season
make, especially when 14 of the last 17 games have been decided by a touchdown
or less in the closing minutes or in overtime.
You all realize that unless you are a coach, AD, booster or player, you as a fan
have NOTHING to do with "your" team's success and failure
don't you? I love trash talk from fans. They all act like they actually
have something to do with the success of their team and the failure of the
other. I love BYU more than anything--except maybe Batman, but I never talk
trash to other fans because it's pointless.It's easy
saying how good "your" team is or how bad "their" team is when
you watch comfortably from the stands or your couch.
"Horseshoes, hand grenades and Chris B's post game analysis of Utes
football." In his mind, they're going to beat Stanford
because they were "close", and that's all that "counts."
U's Little BrotherLet's forgo all the stats and figures
from years gone past, shall we? Who won, on the field, this year? the year
before? the year before? the year before? Can't spin the score board now
can you? I do look forward to your attempt though. Will you use the officials,
the weather, we played poorly or the one game does not make a season card?@ thebigsamoanNice comment and great to see a civil and
constructive comment from what I assume is a real BYU fan. That's cool, and
nice for a change.
PAC11+u power baby!!!
@ Pac 12 Pride,"Some teams are happy to beat up on the likes of
Idaho, Middle Tennessee, Nevada.Others man up and embrace playing
Oregon, UCLA, ASU, Stanford, Michigan. And the gap between them and us is
narrower than ever(see barely losing to UCLA)."You know as well
as I know that if BYU could schedule the likes of Oregon, UCLA, ASU, Stanford,
Michigan, etc, they would. I doubt very highly that Utah could schedule them
either if they were in an independent status as BYU. Please enjoy and embrace
your good fortune of being in a great conference and stop the condescending
attitude. No matter how much you love to pound your chest and flaunt your
status as a member of a conference of champions, until you actually start
winning, it's nothing but empty rhetoric. I want Utah to do
well and be wildly successful in their conference. I've said that in
several posts before. Unlike some of my fellow Cougar fans, I believe the Utes
are on the verge of breaking out. If that happens, I'll be very proud of
them. Moral victories is nothing to brag about.Go Cougars! Go
Utes! Go Aggies!
byu > everyone in PAC 11-1 > utah utes.
spokane uteUtah's flash-in-the-pan bcs success is quickly
fading - the Utes haven't beaten a single AP Top 25 team since their Sugar
Bowl win over a disinterested Alabama team over four years ago.btw,
Alabama finished #6 in both polls; the Utes have NEVER beaten a team the
finished in the Top 5 in either poll.
Pretty much everybody in the PAC 12 > Utah"I can't wait
to see the look on BYU fans faces when mighty Utah takes down one of the best
teams in the nation."Since you've never beaten a Top 5 team
at home, you may be waiting a very long time.
At LeviNo but they beat a top 5 SEC team in the Sugar Bowl. fYI BYU
hasn't won, or even been, to a BCS bowl.....EVER!BYU has lost to Utah
FOUR YEARS IN A ROW!Ouch!
Very excited for this game. While disappointing both the UCLA and Oregon State
games were extremely entertaining. I think the Utes do have a chance to win
this game but it will take both sides of the ball playing to their potential all
4 quarters which we haven't really seen this year. Hopefully that changes
this week and Utah walks off the field Saturday with a signature conference win.
I still think win or lose Utah can be bowl eligible but with a loss it'll
become much more difficult. Good luck this week UtahGo Utes!!!
@ Pac 12 Pride:Another negative Ute's very selective memory...
Before disparaging Idaho State in BYU's schedule, you should remember the
Weber State in your own. It's hypocritical not to. What goes around comes
around. And yes, I do think both USU and BYU could've played
UCLA close... especially on their home fields the way Utah had it. USU already
almost beat USC on the road. And BYU's worst loss this year was by only a
couple of points that went to the wire. So, yes... there's no doubt they
If Utah takes down the Ducks, I'll be one of the first ones on here to
congratulate...just doubt it's gonna happen.Pac 12 Pride, I
love that you are more than willing to call out BYU on the likes of Idaho and
Middle Tennessee, but forget to mention Wisconsin, Notre Dame, and Texas (even
if their year isn't top ten). Even you guys schedule the Weber States,
Northern Colorados, and Montana States. Your double standard is amazing. And
before you even try, several Pac12 schools aren't much different than
Nevada, Boise State, or Houston.Have fun watching BYU play in
"So you're telling me there's a chance...yeah!!" Btw, must be nice to have so many home games to start the year. Has the U even
traveled to play anyone besides going to Provo?
I can't wait to see the look on byu fans faces when mighty Utah takes down
one of the best teams in the nation. Ducky, Sammgy, and the rest will go into
Some teams are happy to beat up on the likes of Idaho, Middle Tennessee,
Nevada.Others man up and embrace playing Oregon, UCLA, ASU,
Stanford, Michigan. And the gap between them and us is narrower than ever(see
barely losing to UCLA). You think byu or usu would have had as
close of a game against UCLA?Nope!
I'm guessing Whit's new compliment for his team over the next few
weeks will follow something along the lines of 'mental toughness'.
Yes the two home losses with a heap of tough PAC 12 games on the road where hard
to take. The Utes coulda shoulda woulda in those contests, but they are playing
much better and growing as a team. The Utes won't compete for the PAC 12
South but we shouldn't be to down about it with all the great match ups to
come. Plus the Utes will play hard and take pride in trying to have a winning
season and bowl appearance. I love this schedule. The Stanford game is another
chance to test the metal. It beats whooping up on patsies.Let's
get stoked about going up against the Cardinal this week. We need the offense
and defense to play well in the same game now. The offense had huge stats and
points in the Beaver game with the defense porous. Then the defense was really
solid on UCLA with Wilson having a down game that will happen with a young QB.
I like the Utes talent but they are inexperienced. I like the way
they are developing and they are a year off from pulling out those close
contests against the better teams.
Spokane UteUtah hasn't beaten a Top 5 team at home... EVER!
The rest of us know you already played your bowl game a couple of weeks ago.
I'm comfortable admitting the emotion of the game seems to mess with my
team, and your team seems to play out of their minds against BYU (give Coach
Whit his due for that one).I've said it before and I'll
say it all season long, my team's season comes down to more than one game.
Prepare yourselves for at least 3-4 more straight losses, and have fun watching
that inferior team down south playing in December since you won't be.
Regardless of your illustrious conference affiliation, I think most sensible
folks will admit any bowl game is better than none.Best of luck to
At LeviSo BYU hasn't beaten a top 5 team at home in over 20
years? Great info but not suprising thanksAt Thomas JeffersonOf course Washington is beatable they lost Saturday night. Great in
sight! You are quite the authority.
Stanford wins 49-14. This won't even be close. Lets the PAC12 beatings
continue. Unlucky scheduling has the Utes on the road against Arizona and WSU.
Both possible wins if at home but likely losses on the road. Look forward to
Colorado in "The Battle for the Basement" the last and only real
opportunity for a win. 4-8 this year, 3-9 next year and looking for a new AD
and Head Football Coach. Love that PAC 12 membership.
The Utes played a great game against UCLA and came up just short with 6
INT's. With that said, after being at the game and watching UCLA up close,
I think they were a bit overrated. A true top 15 team would have put the Utes
away much earlier. I hope the Utes put together a complete effort and give the
Cardinal a run for the money, but I doubt a win will happen.
PAC 12 arrogance"Any top 5 undefeated teams been in Provo or
Logan lately?"The only three Top 5, undefeated teams to visit
RES didn't well for the Utes: 1984 lost to BYU 24-141990
lost to BYU 45-202010 lost to TCU 47-7
We are awsome now because we were invited to the pac10 and that means we will
win Stanford by 33 for sure.
I think this one will be close as wee. I love moral victories. That is how to
build a program. The cardinal by 20. My Ducks by 45.
Stanford is certainly beatable, Washington proved that Saturday night. Utes need
to play there best game on both sides of the ball to have a chance.Go UTES
Let me take this opportunity to say how glad I am we don't have home and
homes with teams like Idaho, Colorado state, Wyoming, New Mexico, middle
Tennessee. I have been a season ticket holder for 7 years and the home games the
last 3 years have been incredible. This program is headed in the right
direction. Teams that brag about "being a big fish in a small pond" as
better than being in a big time conference is accepting mediocrity as the
ceiling. And usually it's just pure jealousy. We are just a few plays away
from winning all these big time games, and that time is not far away. Don't blink, it may happen Saturday. And we'll never look back once
it happens. I think we will end this season .500 in conference games, and for
being in the second toughest conference in the country is a major
accomplishment. I have all the faith in the world in our coaches. They are
doing a great job.
HUGE opportunity this week for the Utes. As frustrating as the loss to ucla was,
I left the game pumped about our chances against Stanford. Anyone who thinks
this game will be a blowout is clueless, and jealous of our program. I can see a
big special teams play being the difference in who wins. Or possibly a trick
play, which Whit has a great track record with. I think we are going to shock
the country and PROVE we are a force to be reckoned with in the conference.
Skiing kicker for the game winning field goal as time expires!
Any top 5 undefeated teams been in Provo or Logan lately? And I don't mean
chess teams. Struggling in the PAC 12 is vastly better than playing nobodies in
a nobody conference where nobody cares. And we knew since day 1 it would take a
few years to get up to speed in the conference. And after the ucla game
it's safe to say we can play with just about anyone in the country.
It's going to be a long week waiting for this game. Win the turnover margin
and we can win this game. Go utes!
I like our chances just like I did against ucla. To think that if Wilson only
threw 5 picks we would have beaten ucla gives me a ton of hope against Stanford.
I don't think Stanford is much better than ucla, and heck, if Wilson only
throws 1-2 picks we beat ucla by 10-14 points. Some of the picks
were tipped which I don't blame on Wilson. I couldn't be happier with
this offense. In such a short time erickson has worked wonders with this offense
The future is very bright for the PAC 12 university of Utah utes.
Things I said since beginning of year:1 we would split
with Stanford and Oregon2 we should beat byu(done)3 we would bet
usu(done)4 Utah ucla winner would win PAC 12 south(we were VERY close)Utah 32Stanford 27