It is sad to have children hungry, but it is sadder to have a big portion of the
population dependent on such "resources." I've seen all too many
children from backgrounds of "poverty" eating only the pizza portion of
lunch or the sugary cereal portion of breakfast and throwing leftover picnic
food in a dumpster after a party. A good part of our "poverty" problem
is lack of knowledge about how to buy food, prepare food, and eat nutritious
food. Fast food and other junk food is just to easy to rely on when other less
expensive options are bypassed.
This doesn't mean I think BO and
Harry are doing the right thing. I think they are poor excuses for leaders, but
the overall problem has many angles. We could all do more to solve the problems.
First we should elect honest smart people to represent us. We failed there
remarkably.
suzyk#1Mount Pleasant, UT
Oct. 7, 2013 9:22 a.m.
It's beyond me what our country has done to deserve the Obamas. There has
been nothing but negative feelings through our country because of the poor
choices and behavior of this President. I never believed in my lifetime I would
witness such a selfish and puffed up man being elected. The American people need
to reflect on their decision and hopefully when he is gone we will through the
grace of God be able to bring our wonderful United States of America back into
the arms of those who love it.
SCfanclearfield, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 1:54 p.m.
Spring Street
The quote is TRUE. I saw Carney say it on TV, FOX
News. I'm sure other outlets spiked it as soon as possible and began
talking about Kim Kardashian or something.
It is now becomming
obvious that this shutdown will last as long as it benefits the Democrats
politically.
I wouldn't say this on any other site than Des
News, but now do you understand why the LDS Church talks so much about food
storage, preparation, staying out of debt, ect. We can't depend on the
government. Eventually it will let you down. Or leave you down and out.
mohokatOgden, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 1:51 p.m.
Happy & Mrs H. Lets test those comprehension skills
A direct
Question: "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't
you do it?"
The answer to that question :"Why would we want
to do that?"
Have I got that correct? I thought so!
lketBluffdale, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 12:40 p.m.
this is class warfare by the republican party to make the middle class even more
poor because down the road it will hurt us all. but first the poor will suffer.
class warfare is the republican party. they work for the rich they all signed a
document to not raise taxes that they are loyal to, that was written for the
benefit of the rich. they do not care about the working class poor that can not
afford rent and insurance.
lost in DCWest Jordan, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 12:35 p.m.
HVH, thanks for the quote - we see the context and see that harry's
comments are indefensible. thanks again. welcome to our side.
MrsH,
spring the heretic also quoted it.
reid accuses the right of
being obsessed with obamacare - and he's not? If reid and BO were not
obsessed about obamacare, this whole situation would be over. repubs have
passed legislation calling for PEOPLE to be treated under obamacare as well as
CORPORATIONS. BO delayed the corporate portion - repubs want treatement just as
good for PEOPLE.
and reid said obamacare is working. HAHAHAHAHA
reid knows as much about the truth as a fish does about nuclear
physics.
still waiting for you to defend the indefensible. attacking
the quote or the commenter is NOT defending reid's denial of funding
clinical trials for kids with cancer.
having people sit idle at
Nellis AFB is more important than kids with cancer? I guess since the kids
cannot vote, we know harry values the idle more.
Happy Valley HereticOrem, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 12:30 p.m.
What he is saying to those with comprehension skills is, what makes your
imaginary child more important than than any other persons life who is being
hurt by the republicans a la carte approach to governing.
MrsHAltamont, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 11:07 a.m.
mohokat, that's still not a reference...
mohokatOgden, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 10:39 a.m.
@Happy "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you
do it?" asked Dana Bash.
"Why would we want to do that?"
Reid responded. "I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are
sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is - to have someone
of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're
irresponsible and reckless."
And your point is????? Pretty clear
to me and not out of context, exactly what he said!!!
Defend the
indefensible
Happy Valley HereticOrem, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 10:12 a.m.
@ lost and DC: It's out of context as per usual from their radio
overlords.
Reid responded, "What right did they have to pick and
choose what part of government is going to be funded? It's obvious
what's going on here. You talk about reckless and irresponsible. Wow. What
this is all about is Obamacare. They are obsessed. I don't know what other
word I can use. They're obsessed with this Obamacare. It's working now
and it will continue to work and people will love it more than they do now by
far. So they have no right to pick and choose."
"But if you
can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?" asked Dana
Bash.
"Why would we want to do that?" Reid responded. "I
have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a
few problems of their own. This is - to have someone of your intelligence to
suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless."
They never read the whole quote, and they never interpret what's
being said...by themselves.
spring streetSALT LAKE CITY, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 9:43 a.m.
@lost and mohokat
Excuse my suspicion but I would like to see a
reference for this "quote."
lost in DCWest Jordan, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 8:52 a.m.
Blue, irony Guy, Ernest
care to address harry's comment as
quoted by mohokat?
repubs try to fund this stuff and keep the
government open, dems vote to shut it down, and yet you take unfounded
pot-shots. reconcile what harry said with caring for the poor. "why would
we want to do that?"
while you're at it, reconcile
Carney's comment that Bo would rather tank the economy than compromise.
what those comments really tell us is the dems want and welcome the
shut-down, regardless of any economic damage or personal suffering, because they
score political points, and that is ALL that matters to harry and BO.
MountanmanHayden, ID
Oct. 3, 2013 8:44 a.m.
We have spent trillions of tax dollars on welfare since the 50's and we
have an all time record amount of people on welfare today! Ask yourself what
causes poverty and if your answer is personal irresponsibility you can answer
the question, what is the ONLY way to end poverty.
redshirt007tranquility base, 00
Oct. 3, 2013 8:32 a.m.
If churches and NPO's had solved even these basic problems, the government
wouldn't have much to do in the area of social programs. Government
programs are a sign of church failure.
Shame for there being any of
this work left to do. Church leaders actually tell people to use government
programs first!
mohokatOgden, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 8:26 a.m.
Reid, was asked about a bill to fund the National Institutes of Health,
including clinical trials for kids with cancer, Reid responded, "Why would
we want to do that?" Pretty much reveals what this is all about.
Ernest T. BassBountiful, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 8:22 a.m.
We are a Christian nation so we let kids go hungry, just like he would.
Mark BEureka, CA
Oct. 3, 2013 8:09 a.m.
Well, I guess there's really no problem at all. Just move in with Mom, then
hope that shows up at your new address before anyone actually gets hungry.
Problem solved!
Irony GuyBountiful, Utah
Oct. 3, 2013 8:07 a.m.
"Let them eat cake." -- Marie T-Party Antoinette
MountanmanHayden, ID
Oct. 3, 2013 7:59 a.m.
Dependency is not freedom! But it sure wins elections.
BlueSalt Lake City, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 7:26 a.m.
Thank you, Tuffy, for expressing so succinctly the fantasy vision of America
that now dominates conservatives and that has become the #1 reason why the rest
country wisely chooses not to put you guys in charge.
Say No to BOMapleton, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 6:31 a.m.
Behold, the effects of trusting in the arm of flesh. I do hope this shut
down will encourage more people to move back home to extended family, if they
haven't already worn out their welcome. Hillary's village is
proven to be unreliable.
lost in DCWest Jordan, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 6:24 a.m.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said sharply that Obama "will not
offer concessions to Republicans in exchange for not tanking the
economy."
His own spokesman say BO would rather tank the economy
than offer concessions. Looks like he’d rather endanger women and
children that offer concessions, too. What a great leader! NOT
Tuffy ParkerSalem, UT
Oct. 3, 2013 12:39 a.m.
This is exactly the kind of thing that should be funded by churches, community
based outreach and charities like the United Way.
I personally know
people who have legitimately benefited from WIC BUT I also know people who have
severely abused it because the government is a very poor manager of these
resources.
Let the private sector step up and let's get the
government out of it.
9 million babies and mothers may be harmed by WIC shutdown
It is sad to have children hungry, but it is sadder to have a big portion of the population dependent on such "resources." I've seen all too many children from backgrounds of "poverty" eating only the pizza portion of lunch or the sugary cereal portion of breakfast and throwing leftover picnic food in a dumpster after a party. A good part of our "poverty" problem is lack of knowledge about how to buy food, prepare food, and eat nutritious food. Fast food and other junk food is just to easy to rely on when other less expensive options are bypassed.
This doesn't mean I think BO and Harry are doing the right thing. I think they are poor excuses for leaders, but the overall problem has many angles. We could all do more to solve the problems. First we should elect honest smart people to represent us. We failed there remarkably.
It's beyond me what our country has done to deserve the Obamas. There has been nothing but negative feelings through our country because of the poor choices and behavior of this President. I never believed in my lifetime I would witness such a selfish and puffed up man being elected. The American people need to reflect on their decision and hopefully when he is gone we will through the grace of God be able to bring our wonderful United States of America back into the arms of those who love it.
Spring Street
The quote is TRUE. I saw Carney say it on TV, FOX News. I'm sure other outlets spiked it as soon as possible and began talking about Kim Kardashian or something.
It is now becomming obvious that this shutdown will last as long as it benefits the Democrats politically.
I wouldn't say this on any other site than Des News, but now do you understand why the LDS Church talks so much about food storage, preparation, staying out of debt, ect. We can't depend on the government. Eventually it will let you down. Or leave you down and out.
Happy & Mrs H. Lets test those comprehension skills
A direct Question: "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?"
The answer to that question :"Why would we want to do that?"
Have I got that correct? I thought so!
this is class warfare by the republican party to make the middle class even more poor because down the road it will hurt us all. but first the poor will suffer. class warfare is the republican party. they work for the rich they all signed a document to not raise taxes that they are loyal to, that was written for the benefit of the rich. they do not care about the working class poor that can not afford rent and insurance.
HVH,
thanks for the quote - we see the context and see that harry's comments are indefensible. thanks again. welcome to our side.
MrsH, spring
the heretic also quoted it.
reid accuses the right of being obsessed with obamacare - and he's not? If reid and BO were not obsessed about obamacare, this whole situation would be over. repubs have passed legislation calling for PEOPLE to be treated under obamacare as well as CORPORATIONS. BO delayed the corporate portion - repubs want treatement just as good for PEOPLE.
and reid said obamacare is working. HAHAHAHAHA
reid knows as much about the truth as a fish does about nuclear physics.
still waiting for you to defend the indefensible. attacking the quote or the commenter is NOT defending reid's denial of funding clinical trials for kids with cancer.
having people sit idle at Nellis AFB is more important than kids with cancer? I guess since the kids cannot vote, we know harry values the idle more.
What he is saying to those with comprehension skills is, what makes your imaginary child more important than than any other persons life who is being hurt by the republicans a la carte approach to governing.
mohokat, that's still not a reference...
@Happy "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?" asked Dana Bash.
"Why would we want to do that?" Reid responded. "I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is - to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless."
And your point is????? Pretty clear to me and not out of context, exactly what he said!!!
Defend the indefensible
@ lost and DC: It's out of context as per usual from their radio overlords.
Reid responded, "What right did they have to pick and choose what part of government is going to be funded? It's obvious what's going on here. You talk about reckless and irresponsible. Wow. What this is all about is Obamacare. They are obsessed. I don't know what other word I can use. They're obsessed with this Obamacare. It's working now and it will continue to work and people will love it more than they do now by far. So they have no right to pick and choose."
"But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?" asked Dana Bash.
"Why would we want to do that?" Reid responded. "I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is - to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless."
They never read the whole quote, and they never interpret what's being said...by themselves.
@lost and mohokat
Excuse my suspicion but I would like to see a reference for this "quote."
Blue, irony Guy, Ernest
care to address harry's comment as quoted by mohokat?
repubs try to fund this stuff and keep the government open, dems vote to shut it down, and yet you take unfounded pot-shots. reconcile what harry said with caring for the poor. "why would we want to do that?"
while you're at it, reconcile Carney's comment that Bo would rather tank the economy than compromise.
what those comments really tell us is the dems want and welcome the shut-down, regardless of any economic damage or personal suffering, because they score political points, and that is ALL that matters to harry and BO.
We have spent trillions of tax dollars on welfare since the 50's and we have an all time record amount of people on welfare today! Ask yourself what causes poverty and if your answer is personal irresponsibility you can answer the question, what is the ONLY way to end poverty.
If churches and NPO's had solved even these basic problems, the government wouldn't have much to do in the area of social programs. Government programs are a sign of church failure.
Shame for there being any of this work left to do. Church leaders actually tell people to use government programs first!
Reid, was asked about a bill to fund the National Institutes of Health, including clinical trials for kids with cancer, Reid responded, "Why would we want to do that?" Pretty much reveals what this is all about.
We are a Christian nation so we let kids go hungry, just like he would.
Well, I guess there's really no problem at all. Just move in with Mom, then hope that shows up at your new address before anyone actually gets hungry. Problem solved!
"Let them eat cake." -- Marie T-Party Antoinette
Dependency is not freedom! But it sure wins elections.
Thank you, Tuffy, for expressing so succinctly the fantasy vision of America that now dominates conservatives and that has become the #1 reason why the rest country wisely chooses not to put you guys in charge.
Behold, the effects of trusting in the arm of flesh.
I do hope this shut down will encourage more people to move back home to extended family, if they haven't already worn out their welcome.
Hillary's village is proven to be unreliable.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said sharply that Obama "will not offer concessions to Republicans in exchange for not tanking the economy."
His own spokesman say BO would rather tank the economy than offer concessions. Looks like he’d rather endanger women and children that offer concessions, too. What a great leader! NOT
This is exactly the kind of thing that should be funded by churches, community based outreach and charities like the United Way.
I personally know people who have legitimately benefited from WIC BUT I also know people who have severely abused it because the government is a very poor manager of these resources.
Let the private sector step up and let's get the government out of it.