A woman's education is not wasted in the home

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  • From Ted's Head Orem, UT
    Oct. 1, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    I had to read the article a couple of times before I figured out what Jenet was really saying: 1) Her mom is great; 2) Let's support all women.

    Pretty tough to argue those points. The whole side story about graduates of elite schools is interesting filler, but doesn't advance the discussion very much due to its limit scope. And let's give 3 cheers for Education!

    In the past few decades more than those preceding them, LDS Church leaders have been encouraging women to get as much education as they can. Why? IMO its first of all for personal growth and edification; second for increased earning power; third, to better teach one's children. Yet "education" remains somewhat undefined in this context. College degree? Advanced degree? Vocational training? Personal study? All of the above?

    It's an unfortunate human trait that we view the world through our own glasses and at times have difficulty seeing it through someone else's. More education for women (and men) should be a no-brainer...whereas the decision to pursue a degree might not be. Hence, the second of the themes: support all women in their choices (and stop judging them.)

  • Ann Amberly Greenbelt, MD
    Oct. 1, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    Erickson's article is correct; a higher degree for a woman is never, ever a waste. However, there is another aspect to this issue that I am sure Erickson would also agree with: mothers need to be at "the table" where decisions about society's priorities and resource commitments are being made. It is wonderful for a mom to hug and educate her child. But a mom's duty to her children goes beyond this--she must help shape the world in which her child will live. If she does not, then she is sending her precious, beloved child out into a world that will harm them--what kind of mother is willing to relinquish a place at the table where important decisions about the world are being made? No, good mothers have a responsibility to their children both within the home and outside the home. Erickson has embraced that view; that is why, as a mother, she teaches at BYU and writes this column. Would that all LDS moms heeded her example, and adopted her broader view about the responsibilities of a mother to her children!

  • supertbone Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 30, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    I can't count how many times that I've seen women left indigent when their husbands loose their jobs or are no longer in the picture. Having a college education in a employable field is a preparation for future hardship and for raising children.

    I am glad my wife decided to graduate with masters when she was 23. By that time we had a couple of kids.

  • Rhonda H. South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    Brigham Young was a major proponent of women's education- look up the entry called "Education" in the Journal of Discourses- Volume 1, page 66.

    "education commences with the mother, and the child in connection... It depends in a great degree upon the mother, as to what children receive, in early age, of principle of every description... When will mothers understand this? Knowing that this is the case, I am perplexed with grief when I see such a wanton diversion from the real design of life, it causes me to mourn for my poor, ignorant, fellow mortals, and sometimes almost goads me to anger. I can see mothers pay attention to everything under heaven, but the training up of their children in the way they should go."

    As for moms sitting home while children are at school-
    Yes, that is a waste. And I don't know any moms who do that. We have natural inclinations to be doing, reaching, serving, and learning.

  • DeseretDebbie Corona, CA
    Sept. 30, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    Totally disagree with the article. Of course what you learned in college can help staying at home but the same knowledge could be obtained online, via mentors, etc. To gain an advanced degree to stay home and raise children is a waste of talent. The children will grow up one way or the other. Once a child is in school Mom is sitting home for 6 hours a day and not using her God given talents.

  • Habib Assi Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    On the debt issue--I started with $100,000 in student loans--I now have none. I make $400,000 a year because I got an excellent education in a profession that pays well and I have worked hard. Don't be short sighted by thinking that you can't have debt--just be careful--but GO FOR IT!

  • Habib Assi Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 30, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    I am concerned that my church (the LDS church) is way behind the times in emphasizing higher education for women. We are reaping the whirlwind of single and married women working for peanuts with no ability to support a family if needed. I have 3 children in Provo (one at UVU and two at BYU) which is still emphasizing a liberal arts and oh well attitude about women actually finishing a degree with skills to work if needed. BYU TV has an ad which encourages students to come back and finish a degree in General Studies--what a waste!

    We say we encourage it, but we don't in reality as a culture or church. We need to our priorities in order. Also, I agree that women's education is not wasted--we need competent women to take the primary role in raising children.


  • Kinderly Riverdale, MD
    Sept. 29, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    I completely agree, I think my degree is extremely helpful in my role as mother, even when I'm not earning money outside of the home.

    I do think there is one valid thing to consider here, though. Debt. If you go into debt for your education, you are committing to work for x number of years after you graduate to pay back the debt. This could be 10 years! If you aren't earning money after you graduate, this debt is a huge problem. Debt makes the choice to stay-at-home a lot less viable.

    My solution--if you want to have that choice, figure out how to go to school without debt. Go to a cheaper school, get scholarships, whatever it takes. It is not necessarily easy but I was so grateful when I graduated to have the freedom that comes from being debt free. It allowed me to quit my job when my first child was born a few years later. I have never regretted my degree or my choice to focus my time on my children.

  • The.Canuck Tooele, UT
    Sept. 28, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    I want my daughters to have options. So they can pursue motherhood and/or work if they want to.
    Being educated can only make them better mothers and/or employees or even bosses and business owners.

  • linleyk Paris, ile-de-france
    Sept. 28, 2013 5:14 a.m.

    I am a Mormon mother with an elite degree from the University of Pennsylvania. When I met the President of UPenn at a reception, she asked what my career was, and I told her that I had mostly used my degree to raise 6 children. She said that that was a wonderful contribution to society.
    Now that my children are nearly grown (last one graduates from high school next spring), I have recently returned to the work force after a 19-year break and (1) I find it very rewarding to practice my profession again and (2) my employer is impressed with my organizational and leadership skills.
    Really--what better training is there for a manager than organizing and nurturing 6 different children at once, volunteering in the community, serving at church, partnering with your husband in all this, finding balance, and sticking to principles?
    Actually--being a stay-at-home mother is the hardest thing I have ever done, and all preparation helps!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    But it is not at all incorrect to suggest it can or should be applied outside the home. And children are an option.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 27, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    I agree with this article. My well educated mother instilled in me an appreciation for learning plus exposure to the humanities and literature that has blessed all of her childrens' lives. Though she was a stay at home mom, my wife's educational background was a blessing to all six of our children. Particularly beneficial degrees for mothers are in the humanities and English Literature but just the exposure to higher education is a blessing. It would be great if universities offered degrees in home schooling. There is so much available now to help mothers who are so inclined. The need for home schooling is growing as the quality and environment of our public schools continue to erode.

  • Daniel L. Murray, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    Our children's up bringing development and education, especially in the earliest years of their lives should not be contracted out to the lowest bidder, if it can be helped.
    I completely agree with this article.
    The education of mothers who will stay home to raise their children is by far one of the most important activities our society can engage in.