Commentary: All BYU can do in wake of the rivalry loss to Utah is move on

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  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 27, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    At kaysville cougar

    Woman up. 8-)

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    @Spokane Ute: What do female fans need to do then?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 26, 2013 12:57 p.m.

    Now it's time to play the old one game doesn't make a season card? Typical and pathetic. I guess the BYU fan will do anything, and I mean anything, before manning up and admitting Utah is the bettere team. Truely sad.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    This article is asking the BYU fan base to move on. Are you kidding me? A fan base that is still living in 1984 and earlier? A fan base that can only quote some obscure stat or record of thirty plus years ago as being relevant today? A fan base that believes that their team has never lost a game? How many times have we been told that they were the better team, even when the scoreboard shows otherwise? This week all their coach could claim was we were the better team! They do not recognize or realize that the score shows which team the better team. Their fans have been conditioned to believe this all their life. A fan base that after this weeks win will be chanting we are back BCS here we come. You are asking the impossible.

    Four in a row and three years to go.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Sept. 26, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    I'm just glad that its not my team that was humiliated 4 straight times by my rival and has to wait two long years for redemption after I posted acres of useless historical data to "prove" that they are the better program. Wallow in your shame Cougar Fan!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    Actually, I don't feel Utah State, or BYU have inept offenses. Neither do I believe Utah, and USC have fantastic defenses?

    What caused both the Aggies, and Cougs to low scoring, is the same thing which held Wisconsin it's lowest scoring of the year.

    Something prevented momentum which led to hesitant offensive execution. Hmm?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    Yikes! The Utes will be playing, with the use of PAC 12 refs.

    What caused defeats for Utah State, Wisconsin, and BYU,--may now face the Utes, as it possibly did last year.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    @Steven S Jarvis

    The best thing BYU can do is to move forward and no longer schedule the Utes. What happened AFTER the game was an embarrassment. While that sort of behavior is acceptable at other Universities seeing the fans pelt garbage on the referees at my Alma Mater brought tears to my eyes.


    Is it really "acceptable" at other Universities? Can you provide some proof?

    Thank goodness Max Hall's family wasn't anywhere near the refs.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    Don't the Cougars need to start preparing for their game on Friday? Time to stop licking wounds and get to work!

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    There won't be any lasting effects on BYU nor its "fans".

    They're used to losing to Utah.

  • LoveTheKittens The Middle Of, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    What exactly is your point, that a power program (byu) can't beat a lesser team (utes)?
    You cougs never cease to amaze me with your useless statistics. Final score dude.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    Utah wins the match-up with BYU so far this century. I can accept that. What I cannot accept is one match-up results equate to one program being superior to the other. Only during the Crowton years where BYU had three losing seasons has Utah been clearly head and shoulders a better program. Utah was not clearly the better program last year and it has yet to be proven that they are the better program this year.

    The best thing BYU can do is to move forward and no longer schedule the Utes. What happened AFTER the game was an embarrassment. While that sort of behavior is acceptable at other Universities seeing the fans pelt garbage on the referees at my Alma Mater brought tears to my eyes. We cannot be like other programs.

    Scheduling Utah harms the mission of the church whether we win or lose when our fans behave as they did. Its time the leadership stop playing Utah until both programs can treat each other with respect.

  • TremontonUte Tremonton, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    If Utah fans were disrespectful during the prayer and hoping the worst for Marcus Williams I have to believe it was a very few individuals. Both fan bases have their very small percentage that just want to make the other side mad. I believe the vast majority of fans on both sides are good people who want to see their team do well. Evansrich I hope you have a great time this Friday with your son and that BYU plays well. I also hope Marcus Williams is back with the team and healthy soon.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    After 4 years in a row losing to our in state rival, for many fans, the rest of the season is irrelevant. The reality is that BYU will win the games it should and lose the big ones. That is what we expect from Bronco and Anae. That is all they have delivered and all they will deliver.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    Do some research on the "better program" comment. Better program is based on all 12/13 games, not just 1. Last two years BYU's worst loss has been to Utah, Utah's best win has been over BYU. Last year their second best win was over #81 Cal!

    However, let's put some real numbers with it. When you average all the rating systems (Massey does it for you), Bronco has averaged a final ranking of 29.5, while Whitt has averaged a final ranking of 35.75. If you want to use median to lower the noise, Bronco stays at 29.5 while Utah comes in at 35. You can "central average" or use other measures, but on average Bronco's teams have been better overall. BYU has also finished the year with the better ranking the last two years (34-67, 32-39).

    Remember, you have to include the Colorado game and UNLV shutting out the Utes. Whit has been masterful at exploiting Bronco's weaknesses, but not as good at winning on a weekly basis.

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    Ok moving on from a heartbreaking loss.

    I got really good ticket (cheap too since the some fan are already jumping off the boat) for the next game and I am excitted because it will be my son first BYU game.

    Who knows maybe the Y and U can play in a bowl game at the end of the year, which would give Hill some time to grow as a QB. Noticed the team is supporting Hill and not calling for his head.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    Having a hard time understanding the lack of fan support for Taysom Hill.

    This young man didn't just get off the turnip truck as a QB. He apparently had at least six offers prior to signing with BYU and was the 2009 #1 postseason guy from Idaho, #30 QB in the nation. (Yes I know Heaps was up there too....)

    But clearly he was effective in another earlier time, so must have had the skill/touch at some point to warrant that evaluation.

    He may now need coaching, sure-handed receivers, and fan support to regain that skill level, not derision and condemnation.

    BYU fans, time to step up. Give the young man a chance.

    Help him thru this hard time, help him rebuild his internal passing "computer", and I'd wager he'll return the favor six-fold down the stretch.

    He's an important part of your Blue Family, willing to step up and risk his future health and well-being for you every time he touches the ball.

    Everyone --- coaches, players, fans --- give him the respect and support that he deserves, and watch him take off like a rocket ship.

    (--- Just $0.02 from a Utah fan)

  • The Solution Las Cruces, NM
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    Everyone, Chris B has won his day in the sun by correctly predicting BYU's loss in the Holy War for the 4th time in a row.

    Now let's do as the article says and move on. Ignore him and don't comment directly to him.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    You've got to love how an article titled "All BYU can do in wake of the rivalry loss to Utah is move on" comes directly after an article titled "Utah-BYU: Rivalry games in which the Utes never trailed the Cougars." While I agree fans should move on, may I suggest the media moves on as well?

  • LoveTheKittens The Middle Of, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Yes, their days are numbered...just like everyone else.
    You are special and unique and blah blah blah...just like everyone else.
    Are the Bees so bad this year that you must comment on things you know nothing about?

  • M. Butler Brooklyn, NY
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Or they could simply quit. College Football, Inc., is a huge racket and it's time BYU got out of it.

  • minion BOISE, ID
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Chris B, you are wrong as often as you are right. Pac-12 competition is coming up; it might be a good time to stop posting from Fantasyland.

    I was at the game Saturday night, not far from Ute supporters who shouted obscenities during the traditional pregame prayer, and then vocally wished for paralysis for Jamaal Williams when he was injured. Now that Utah football has been temporarily declared the best in this rivalry, maybe you can focus on recruiting some 5-star fans.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    It was obvious on Saturday that Utah had better players, in more positions, than BYU. However, BYU has traditionally had less talent than many teams it has beaten, and the reason it prevailed was the passing game. I don't know whether defensive schemes are so advanced now that it isn't feasible for BYU to pass like it once did, but it can't beat good teams without a stellar passing attack. Overall, Taysom Hill is too good an athlete to bail out on this early in the season, but he must start throwing better if the Y wants to win more than 3-4 games this year. The good news is that even a little improvement in that regard would almost certainly have a huge impact on the team's fortunes. (If not, well, there's always basketball.)

    As for Utah, we'll see what happens in the rest of its conference games. It isn't going to beat Oregon or Stanford, but the USU-USC game revealed the latter to be a pretty ordinary team, at least on offense. This week's game against UCLA will probably chart the course of the balance of the season.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:24 a.m.

    What to expect in the 2016 game? Neither coach at the Y or the U will be on the sideline.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:02 a.m.


    Let's restate the obvious!

    The Cougars have a decent defense. Their O-Line is a huge question mark. Their QB can run well but can't pass. Their receivers have underperformed and their passing attack is among the worst in the country for D-1 schools.

    There. Now it's all been documented.

    In today's highly athletic world, BYU needs to recruit better athletes and devise a more effective scheme for moving the football. "Go Fast! Go Hard!" lives and dies on execution. BYU does not have the horses to execute against very good teams. Texas, unfortunately, was not a very good team.

    A winning season this year would be a major achievement for this squad.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Sept. 25, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    I've moved on - to lower expectations, just like last year and the year before that. But I can cheer for the Mighty Utes, the best in the state.

    Go Utes! Keep working Cougars.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    Zero losses against your rival in 6 years.

    I was told all offseason byu would win.

    I was told the same thing last year

    And the year before

    And the year before

    Utah has better athletes and better coaches. This translates into a better team.

    Keep pretending your 1-2 star nobodies that had ZERO BCS offers and coaches that just keep doing the same things over and over are leading you to the crystal ball!