Commentary: Utah State has plenty to look forward to despite losses to Pac-12 teams

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  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Ok so they did beat UNLV. What's that say? You are no better than SUU. On another website yes you have. And it's always about me. It's a newspaper website based in Logan. You know what I'm talking about so you can see for yourself if you are in denial.

  • aceofspadeskb Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 12:45 p.m.


    If I've said something bad about another fan base I ask you to find it. Do a google search for "usufans" to find the website. Sorry, DesNews won't let me post a link.

    Also, USU beat UNLV last year 35-13.

    Btw, well written article DesNews! Keep it up!

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 11:13 a.m.


    So you agree with me.


    We haven't beaten a "power" team. We've beaten WAC 2.0 UNLV. Which USU hasn't done in recent memory. That's not really the point thouugh. Do you dispute the fact that USU hasn't beaten a big team or not? And we haven't played Utah or BYU so I can't answer that question. But you already knew that didn't you?


    What's the website? I may consider it if it will finally get you aggies to see the error of your ways. And I believe that's the first time you've said anything nice to someone who isn't an aggie.

  • aceofspadeskb Smithfield, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    Deseret News

    I'm not sure how the following comment can be considered off topic considering the other comments posted on this article. Frankly I find it troubling that you disallow someone from extending a friendly hand to Stang who most people question and ridicule.

    Please re-review the following post.



    I for one appreciate your comments much of the time. While sometimes extreme, I do think you represent a group of people(how big of a group is debatable) who have ill feelings towards usu. May I invite you to come discuss Aggie issues at the usufans website? It is a forum where Aggie fans go to discuss all things Aggies. An outside opinion there is always appreciated.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Sept. 26, 2013 5:04 p.m.

    @Tenn 12
    It is not a reasonable goal, for the foreseeable future, to get "to the next level" if you mean a more prestigious conference. The fact remains that USU is a mid level university in terms of enrollment, endowment, budget, and resources. We are right where we belong, competitive with our peers, and an occasional threat to those above us. What mid level team do you see as better than the Aggies? I would be very interested. We have made huge strides, and I hope we can continue. But we don't belong in, say, the PAC 12 where we would be like Utah, hoping not to be the doormat each year. And we are not going to be a national football powerhouse football program. Better chance of that happening in basketball, don't you think?

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 5:04 p.m.


    Which power conference teams has SUU beaten and when? (And remember, close doesn't count.) Also, in which of the last 100 years has SUU (or SUSC) beaten BYU, Utah, or Utah State?

  • Mars_ Logan, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 2:30 p.m.


    In the interest of being civil, I did not intend to insult you. I apologize if that's how I came across.

    I simply disagree utterly and completely with your assertion. I believe it has no merit, and I find its implications to be belittling and insulting to the Aggie players, coaches, and staff.

  • Mars_ Logan, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 1:45 p.m.


    Per Sambone's plea, I'm going to be civil to you. You are correct that USU hasn't beaten a highly regarded program on the road for awhile, and the wins over BYU and Utah are few and far between.

    Lucky for me, this gives you absolutely no power over me. You don't diminish the enjoyment I get from being an Aggie. I still hold season tickets, I still go to all the home games and watch the rest on TV. It's irksome that you continue to beat the same drum.

  • Mars_ Logan, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 1:42 p.m.


    I did not call YOU silly, I said you are BEING silly.

    You have found one quote, ostensibly in a post game setting, where the Coach found a positive after a tough loss, and you are using it to assert that every single person involved in coaching and the athletic department is comfortable with losses and expects to lose big games.

    Does not compute.

    If you think that quote truly indicates that all during prep week, practice, game film review, and in-game coaching that the Aggie players, coaches and staff didn't expect to win, then you are being silly. If you think that Matt Wells would have said "No, I don't expect to win" prior to kick off, then you are being silly.

    You don't ignore film after a win because you won. You don't ignore positives after a loss because you lost. The USU Football program is still taking baby steps toward success. In 2010 we won 4 games. Go to the 610 KVNU website and listen to his coaches show prior to the USC game. He said that we're tired of coming close. And we are. I know I am.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 1:20 p.m.


    beating Utah/BYU every 100 years doesn't count. The aggies have lost to Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisc, and most recently USC. I win again my friend.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    When the USU football program was on life support we called the big road trips body bag games. The team was playing for a big paycheck while running up stats for the big boy teams. The Aggies were always in the bottom 12 teams in the NCAA.

    So before you ignorantly slam the Aggies learn some history and chart the progress made by USU. It has now been a long time since USU was blown out in a football game. Teams can no longer look past the Aggies. When the Aggies do lose the victors (maybe not ignorant fans) know that they have won a fierce game against a worthy opponent.

    USU finally has a home in a stable quality conference that where it can immediately compete for the title. True fans appreciate the hard work and great progress made by players and coaches. Aggie fans that I know are proud of their team and optimistic about the rest of this season as well as the future of USU football. Go Big Blue!!!

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Please read the following quote from your head coach in another article from this very website:
    “USU has come a long way in the last 15 years,” says Wells. “Those games used to be 40-point blowouts. Now we’re going into Auburn and the Coliseum and Madison and Utah and BYU and playing for the win in the fourth quarter. It’s still a burning desire to try to get it flipped and win some of those games. But to go play USC on the road against a top-10 defense and have the game go down to the last possession, I’ll take it.”
    This mentality is exactly what I'm talking about. Winning big games is not expected nor demanded. Until it is you will never get to another level. Your fans, coaches, and players are content to continue coming close. As evidenced by this quote, I hope you apologize for calling me silly. I backed up what I said with a quote from the head man.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:30 p.m. just post nonsense. We can and do beat big schools, you just choose not to recognize that. Don't Utah and BYU count? Or were they "little" when we beat them?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 7:17 p.m.

    @ Ute Seniors... (Chris B):

    Actually, Utah has also failed to prove that it's as good as most PAC12 teams... especially since they've never once beaten one with a winning record.

    But hey, if being a cellar team in a big conference gets you all excited... have at it!

    Personally, I'd rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond (as USU now is) than a tiny fish in a big pond (as Utah now is). Those are the kind that gobbled up, as Utah has been each year it's tried to compete in it's new big pond.

    Though you don't yet know it, almost none of the nation is following the average Ute game... or any similar team that can't qualify for a bowl game. Irrelevant.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 4:39 p.m.


    I think the point is you can't beat a big school. It's just not possible for the aggies.

  • Mars_ Logan, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 3:03 p.m.


    "The mentality of most Aggie Fans is probably a good reason why the program never wins big games. They are completely satisfied with coming close."

    Now you're just being silly. Most Aggie fans? How many do you know, personally? And even for the sake of argument, since when do fan expectations dictate how the team plays? You would have an argument if you said that the team expects to come close, but then I'd ask you to demonstrate that you're correct and you'd fail miserably. ;)

    "Why not win one once in awhile?"

    Indeed, why not? All you have to do is go on the road and play teams that are arguably better than you and win? Of *course* we want to win.

    You're being silly.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 1:47 p.m.


    The attitude of the aggie fan's is very very poor. I've seen it first hand.

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Sept. 24, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    What many critics here do not understand is that USU will never be able to consistently beat teams that recruit nothing but 4 and 5 star players, have a fan base triple or more of USU, much larger budgets. But what is clear, USU can be an over achiever, come within a few points or even a single play, of beating stronger opponents. We have proven, in the last few years we can beat Utah and BYU and I believe would be equally competitive with our team in the current PAC 12 as Utah is, this year for example. We are in the perfect conference for us, where we can expect to compete for the championship each year, which is a lot more than can be said about U. of U in the PAC. It is going to be a long wait for a Rose Bowl appearance, Utes.

  • AggiePride Logan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Aggie fans aren't happy with the loss. Who is happy with a loss? The point of this article, and the attitude Aggie fans can have, is that we still have plenty to fight for. A MWC championship is a big deal to us. We aren't a Pac 12 school and are never going to be. Would we like to be? Sure, but not if it meant a losing record every year. We belong in the MWC and have a chance to win it every year against GOOD, regional competition. Not SEC competition, but good competition. BYU has nothing to fight for this year, besides wins and a sub-par bowl. Utah still has a lot to fight for, but it's an uphill battle against far superior competition. Satisfaction is defined as the difference between your expectations and results. I believe Utah State still has the potential to obtain more satisfaction this year than any other team in the state because we don't have unreal expectations, but good results.

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    The mentality of most Aggie Fans is probably a good reason why the program never wins big games. They are completely satisfied with coming close. Why not win one once in awhile? USC as a whole is bad. Yeah, USC has a good defense, but the mental miscues by both coaches and players from USU offensively left so much to be desired. Bad loss, same old Aggies. Utah State would have beat USC with decent play calling and decent execution. Unfortunately those things were lacking yet most Aggie fans are happy.

  • downunder south jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    USU is never going to defeat pac 12 referees!

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    You already lost your two biggest games.

    You failed to prove you are as good as Pac 12 teams.

    And your quest for a BCS bowl is over.

    But hey, if a wac 2.0 championship gets to excited, have at it.

    The game against byu will be huge, to be able to say you are the second best program in the state.

    The whole nation will be watching with great interest I am sure.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 24, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    I'm hoping the Aggies run the table. Tough games against BYU and Boise State are very, very win-able this year. I will be pulling for the Aggies; a very good team indeed!

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:00 a.m.

    I'll admit that i'm a total fair weather Aggie fan. But after what I saw last week against USC, the Aggies defense is the real deal and deserves the no 15 ranking. Heres to and MWC title.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    USU does seem to have a good team. Coming within 3 points of SC in a down year for them is very good indeed. BYU has a lot of improving to do, but they may do it. We will see.