@ Uteology:Your own latest poll shows that BYU is still ranked
better than the team that beat you... last week, and at home!
When Chris B's self imposed moratorium kicks in Saturday night watch for
him to resurface under a new name. Maybe "Darren B"" or "B
Lucy" or something similar.
TatorsHyrum, UT@ Uteology:Doesn't change the
fact that BYU (and yes, even Texas) are still currently ranked overall higher
than Utah in the polls... regardless of whether you think things are overrated
or not. It's a fact. Try spinning things with side issues all you want...
but it's still a fact. Live with it.-------------It's not a fact, it's just one opinion that a 1-1 Texas and 1-1 BYU
are better than a 2-1 Utah team. Are you saying 1-1 Virginia is better than 2-1
Oregon State? That was the question, please give us your opinion.If
you search "College Football Rankings Composite" you will find more
opinions (aka polls). There you'll find the following average rankings:#30 Utah State#32 BYU#39 Oregon State#41 Utah#51
Texas#66 VirginiaSo BYU is ranked just below a team we already
beat. And BYU is 1-1 against two teams that are horrible, as
defined by BYU fans.
@ CougFaninTX"are calling GT a cupcake? This is the team that
pummeled USC to finish off last season. They are 2 - 0 and looking better this
year than last year"Yep! Please explain how the Yellow Jackets
lost to Middle Tennessee and BYU at home last year? Beating USC last year
didn't prove anything. The Trojans lost Matt Barkley with an injury in the
UCLA game. Their offense suffered ever since. Their performance in the bowl game
looks a lot like how they're playing this year. USC is not good without
Barkley!"Houston is 2-0 and in 1st place in their conference and
looking a lot better than Oregon St, Washington St, or Colorado"Houston beat Southern and Temple in their first two games. Oregon State,
Colorado, and Washington State could beat those cupcakes. "Virginia is not a bottom dweller in the ACC - U may want to check the
standings. Stick with the facts"My mistake, Virginia finished
second to last in their conference. Which means, BYU fans can no longer call
Utah a Pac-12 bottom dweller because the Utes have never finished last in the
Pac-12 since joining the conference.
@ Uteology:Doesn't change the fact that BYU (and yes, even
Texas) are still currently ranked overall higher than Utah in the polls...
regardless of whether you think things are overrated or not. It's a fact.
Try spinning things with side issues all you want... but it's still a fact.
Live with it.
@ Spokane Ute:I agree. Not all Utah fans are trolls. But there are a
few that have earned the title with excessive obnoxiousness. You haven't
been doing that. Sorry for the personal inference.. As far as
whether the Virginia game will be meaningful as to qualifying for a bowl. It
may, or it may not. Way too early to decide that. And as far as rankings
go, that Virginia game must not have been too meaningful, since BYU is still
currently ranked higher than the Utes in most polls and rankings. Pundits saw
the game for what it was... a first game of the season played under horrific
conditions that BYU should've won had not coach Anae made a dumb call at
the end of the game that led to that interception. Personally, I
think more emphasis should be put on how a team plays in their most recent
games... since things do truly evolve one way or the other for most teams
throughout the season. And I absolutely love how BYU responded in their last
game. It even quieted Chris for a few days. You have a good day too,
TatorsHyrum, UT@ Uteology:One more thing you
forget to mention involving the current Sagarin Rankings...Texas (43) is
still ranked better than Utah (47). I would think you would consequently feel
that Texas must be pretty good. BYU (33) is ranked better than either.----------Nope.Overrated!!Week 1: Texas AP
#15Week 2: Texas Sagarin #24Week 3: Texas Sagarin #44Week 4:
vs Kansas State (they also lost to a D2 team).I'm sure you are
hoping they don't lose to Kansas State.As far as BYU, you
haven't played a real rush defense yet:Utah #28Virgina
#120Texas #126 I hope Hill's learned how to throw during
the bye week.Go UTES!!
As we all know expert opinions are worthless because of the high emotions in
this game it is really impossible to predict. There are a lot of story lines
with two good quarterbacks, one QB better at passing, both having weak corners
(BYU's corners are 3rd string at best, with the first four being out), both
teams have a good run defense. I think the difference will be the pressure on
Trevor from BYU's defense, but if Trevor gets time to pass it could just as
easily be BYU's weak pass defense, as I said impossible to predict.The one thing I can predict is it will be fun to watch, Go Cougars!
@WiscougarfanKeeping your starters in the whole game against such
horrible competition [Oregon State] is how you really pad stats.----------Then you would also agree that it's also how you
"pad wins" (1984, 2011, 2012).
Bleed Crimson, I dont know why people keep saying that Georgia Tech
is such a bad team. I believe they are actually doing pretty well this year.
In fact if you were to do some research you would see that they are consistantly
receiving votes in the ap poll for the top 25. Seems to me they must be pretty
From some of the Ute fans who have posted this week on the numerous articles,
you'd think that BYU is going to be so overmatched and so out performed
that the Utes don't even need to prep at all. In fact, all the Utes can
spend their time this week dunking each other in cold water for laughs.
@CaptainSo you have lost 3 dozen the last three years; ouch!
It's a good think you didn't bet the farm, you would be homeless!
@Cougfanin TXVirginia isn't the bottom dweller of the ACC? Huh?
Explain. They haven't even played a conference game yet. How would you
know? They are ranked in the bottom twenty on both sides of the ball. Oh! BYU is predicted to win? They'll win for sure! Kinda like last year,
and the year before. Truth is BYU is almost always a favorite in this game. And
they almost always lose it. Blame it on QB, coaching, turnovers what have you.
Whitt gets his boys up for this game. Mendenhall, not so much. Prediction #1 Utah will score a TD or Safety off a BYU high snap. C'mon
it's tradition. Prediction #2 Utah seniors undefeated vs BYU!
Not too worried. Taysom can't throw, luckily for us, and our defense does
exceptionally well at stopping the run. GO UTES
I remember the days when my Ute friends were always good for a free dozen
doughnuts from a rivalry wager. It took them a few years to lose enough faith
that they wouldn't put any on the line anymore. Still to this day they
won't (except one Urban year) put the doughnut where their mouth is. I
think I'll buy some for them after this weekend, just to console their
TatorsNot sure why you use the word "troll" when someone
voices a differing opinion? That's weak sauce. Any way, the Virginia game
can not be swept under the rug no matter how you spin it. A bad loss, is just
that; no way to sugar coat it. As far as that game being "irrealavent";
I strongly disagree. One win can mean the difference between a bowl and no bowl,
or what tier bowl you play in. It absolutly plays into the rankings; don't
kid your self. As far as the point spread goes, I'd love to shake your
hand, and wager on the game; however, that's not possible. I see Utah
winning it, and as I BYU fan, you think otherwise. Fair enough. I guess we wiil
see come Saturday night; 7 points is a HUGE spread. IMHO Gotta run, we will talk
another time; have a good day and GO UTES!
All I hope is for civility both on and off the field come this saturday. May
the best team when and may there be no excuses. I also hope goog sportmanship
from the fans, players and especially coaches exist at it conclusion. Lastly,
may everyone remain healthy and play their hearts out for their school, fans,
family, coaches and themselves. Leave it all on the field. Go
@ Spokane Ute:A key item that you and other trolls are either
totally nieve about (that would be a first) or have purposely chosen to ignore
concerning your Virginia comparisons... Many, if not most of Virginia's
key players did not play in their subsequent game with Oregon. Part of reason
was because of injuries and part of it was because of coaching decisions. They
had already written off that game. As such, you are actually comparing apples
and oranges. And as most knowledgeable football pundits
acknowledge... most of the change and improvement in any football team comes
after their first game. I'm certain that Utah's coaches are putting
much emphasis on what BYU did to Texas than what happened in Virginia... as well
they should. You, on the other hand, are now putting too much emphasis on
something now irrelevant. But nice try. If you continue to put too
much weight and emphasis on the Virginia scenario, you are going to be
blindsided and sorely disappointed come Saturday. There is a reason literally
all the betting world has BYU picked as the favorite in their game with Utah.
Las Vegas has picked BYU by 7.
The U defense wins this battle. Hill can't throw the ball with much
accuracy and opts to run for the most part. This makes for an easy task for the
U defense. Just play tight man defense and force Hill into running. I suspect
Anae will have to do something to keep the U defense honest in this game and
such as throwing to the tight ends more and backs out of the backfield. The wide
receivers are going to be blanket covered for the most part. You might see more
bootleg type plays for Hill getting him out of the pocket and letting receivers
find open spots. As for the U - their QB is good. He throws well and he runs
well and the Y defense is going to have to put lots of pressure on him forcing
him into some some quick throws hoping he will throw to the blue jersey's
instead of red. I see the U having the advantage in this game and they always
play well in Provo. BYU 23 U of U 35
When you look at BYU stats, you have to factor in that they played Virginia.
After all, Oregon put up a 59 spot on that team. Oh, wait a minute, BYU lost to
Virginia. That seems to be the forgotten game; go figure. Stat's won't mean squat. If Utah can contain the QB keeper, which
Texas couldn't, they will be fine. A one dimensional QB is a problem. Utah
is the best team that BYU will have face so far. Texas will end up losing 6+
games this year.GO UTES>---->
@ Uteology:One more thing you forget to mention involving the
current Sagarin Rankings...Texas (43) is still ranked better than Utah
(47). I would think you would consequently feel that Texas must be pretty good.
BYU (33) is ranked better than either.@ Chris B:Las
Vegas oddmakers are multiple times more accurate than you with their
predictions. And they have BYU picked by 7 this Saturday. I can agree with
that... as will most people.
Stopping Jamaal is the key. He's their best offensive player by far. If
Bronco keeps rushing him for 30+ carries a game, he wont last half the season.
If they loose him they wont win 3 games this season.
Toss the predictions. Looking forward to a great game. Go Utes!
usu has as good of a defense as byu and we beat them.And byu's
offense is not nearly as good as usu's. Utah by 1, 10, 44,
whatever.At the end of the day the scoreboard will have more points
for Utah than byuThe only question is what will the margin be and
what will the byu fans excuses be?Rain?Refs?You gave us
Throw, throw, throw.BYU is typically not very good at the corner
position(See any byu corners playing on Sundays?).And that is true
with their first string.But now with second and third string guys in
the secondary?Wilson is going to put up great numbers and lead Utah
to yet another victory4-0 SWEEP
@ Tom in CAHow many times did Utah win when BYU was favored?Kalani Sitake, you shouldn't worry about BYU's up-tempo offense.
Kyle said 90% of the teams who used them (After week 1) lost. I want to say BYU
will win, but I have been wrong last 3 years. This should be a very good game.
I can't wait for the drivel to stop and actually see the game played. Only
after then will all these ridiculous nonsense predictions from both sides be
settled. May the better team win!Go Cougars! Good luck Utes too
after this Saturday!
Tom,Wasn't byu favored two years ago?That worked
out well huh?54-10 beatdown!
@crimson - U are calling GT a cupcake? This is the team that pummeled USC to
finish off last season. They are 2 - 0 and looking better this year than last
year. Houston is 2-0 and in 1st place in their conference and looking a lot
better than Oregon St, Washington St, or Colorado. Virginia is not a bottom
dweller in the ACC - U may want to check the standings. Stick with the facts.
WiscougarfanRiver Falls, WIRE:PipesWhile Weber
State certainly did pad Utah's stats, that's nothing compared to the
padding they got by playing a close game against Oregon State (a team that had
previously lost at home to a Division 2 team). Keeping your starters in the
whole game against such horrible competition is how you really pad stats.----------If Oregon State is horrible then what is Texas and
Virginia?Sagarin Rankings:Oregon State 41Texas
@ Wiscougarfan"While Weber State certainly did pad Utah's
stats, that's nothing compared to the padding they got by playing a close
game against Oregon State (a team that had previously lost at home to a Division
2 team). Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible
competition is how you really pad stats"BYU should have taken
advantage of padding their stats against an ACC bottom dweller couple weeks ago.
But they failed! No worries though! BYU has a division 2 team (Idaho State) in
November to help pad their stats. They have a few more cupcakes as well like:
Middle Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Houston, and Nevada. Gotta love having almost
half your schedule against cupcakes to help you become bowl eligible.
RE:PipesWhile Weber State certainly did pad Utah's stats,
that's nothing compared to the padding they got by playing a close game
against Oregon State (a team that had previously lost at home to a Division 2
team). Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible
competition is how you really pad stats.
I bet Hill, Williams, Van Noy and PoVoy each get like 150 yards rushing. Plus
passing and its a long night.
Cougars are favored by 7. All the experts have BYU winning this one. Hill will
deliver it to Hoffman and Apo in between lighting you up with his legs for 150
or more. Then there's Williams, Lasike and Alisa - will be a long night for
conference of champions. Oh, wait - don't forget Van Noy and company.
When looking at the utes defensive stats, you have to factor in playing against
WeberState. That will seriously pad anyone's stats!