In Our Lovely Deseret: Embrace and dare — to be alive is to be vulnerable

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  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Sept. 19, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    @Eternal Perspective - “these characteristics are at the root of scripture as best fostered by faith, humility, and obedience to God’s laws”

    I enjoyed reading your comments and agree with much of what you say, however, I’d like to offer a word of advice.

    When you argue for the superiority of your religion, no doubt it come from a place of deep conviction, but to an outsider it sounds like what children do (“I’m the best… fill in the blank) and makes you look both arrogant and ignorant.

    For example, everything the author talked about and most of what you reiterated, is wonderfully transmitted by eastern religion, especially Buddhism. And yet Buddhists are (by western religion’s understanding of the term) atheists… they do not believe in an anthropomorphic god.

    Argue for the excellence of your tradition all day long, but arguing for its superiority is (to my ears anyway) counterproductive to your efforts to “spread the word.”

  • EternalPerspective Eldersburg, MD
    Sept. 19, 2013 4:39 a.m.

    Tyler D

    The article is perhaps appealing because it distills religious doctrine into acceptable words like "Love" and "Vulnerability", which are non-threatening to secularists and atheists alike. But in truth, these characteristics are at the root of scripture as best fostered by faith, humility, and obedience to God’s laws with pure intent and sincerity.

    While love is not exclusive in the least to those who have faith in God, the power to become like Christ is poured out more abundantly by the Spirit of God when patterning life after His mortal example and teachings.

    No matter the degree of distillation within our society today contained in philosophies that non-believers can agree as patterns of life that promote happiness, they all stem from the prescribed attributes and knowledge God has given to the world for overcoming selfish and carnal impulses seeking primarily for self-gain.

    When one can love and serve others without exessive selfishness and self-gratification in thought and deed, they truly begin to see the bigger picture in life. To those who do, worldly accolades become seen as having no lasting value, while consistently demonstrating Christ-like love, compassion, and charity is everything.

  • dlw7 LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 8:59 p.m.

    Thanks for this article. Regardless of religion or no religion, it give me an insight into me that I had not thought about....maybe why I feel about some things the way I do. For me, it was one of those "tender mercies". Good job!!!!

  • sharrona layton, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    @Tyler D,possibly the best article I have ever read in the Faith section of DN.

    RE: That most wise of Christian authors, Madeleine L’Engle?

    L'Engle believed in universal salvation, writing that "All will be redeemed in God's fullness of time, all, not just the small portion of the population who have been given e grace to know and accept Christ. All the strayed and stolen sheep. All the little lost ones." As a result of her promotion of Christian universalism, most Christian bookstores refused to carry her books, which were also banned from Christian schools and libraries.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Sept. 18, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    Possibly the best article I have ever read in the Faith section of DN.

    Jesus said there are only two things one must do to attain heaven, and both really boil down to one thing – Love!

    If this were the primary focus of religion – instead of a laundry list of Bronze Age beliefs, superstitions, doctrines & rituals – religion would be growing exponentially and the world would be blessed indeed.