Robert Redford calls for LGBT rights at Equality Utah event

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  • cnotkenny delta, UT
    June 27, 2015 10:10 p.m.

    Hey. do we really love each other? I have many friends that are a part of the LGBT community, and as far as I can tell they just want to be happy, and not even at our expense. Why are we spending so much taxpayer funds pushing an agenda where they are forced to go back underground, which I must say affects their happiness. Come on everyone, can't we let human beings live the life they want? Are you being bothered personally by all of this? Is the decision to allow people their personnel freedoms having an overbearing effect on your life? We all deserve to pursue happiness in our own way if it does not harm any other being. Give it a rest, stop easting money, let people be happy. Thanks. cnotkenney

  • dale richards Green River, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    There isn't any prejudices on his
    environmental issues either is there.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    To: hit it right on the nose. He could care less about this subject..he says what draws attention and money. He is a typical, average entertainer.

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Sept. 19, 2013 12:40 a.m.

    The negative comments about Mr Redford, who has brought money, fame, and social acceptability to the formerly very isolated Utah, are not exactly Christian.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 5:19 p.m.

    Bob K: I know of plenty of women and blacks in utah that have not been discrimination, against for jobs or housing. If a gay couple want housing that is easily solved by just buying a house. I know gay couples that have done that in Utah and other states.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    happy2bhere: The church will never allow same sex temple marriages. And polygamist have there own temples. Redford doesn't live in Utah so how can he should he be allowed to say anything about what goes on here.

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Sept. 18, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    Bob K-- "I will fall on the floor dead if you tell me that Gays have those rights in Utah."

    Start least in Salt Lake City

    DesNews Nov. 11 2009 "Salt Lake City has become the first Utah city to offer housing and employment protections for gays and lesbians — an action supported by the Mormon church."

    And I know for a fact that discrimination does not happen when those of same sex attraction keep keep that little fact to themselves in multiple other cities in Utah. Four lesbians and two gays I know do just fine. That is because they live and let live, and don't broadcast their sexual orientation.

    Just like the movie theater I went to yesterday, where a big sign clearly said NO OUTSIDE FOOD OR DRINKS ALLOWED. Now I could carry my food/drink in my hands and challenge them and cause a scene and make a big public issue of it...Or I could (and did) carry my bag of M&Ms right in --out of site-- just like I always do, and just smile at their pointless sign...............See the connection??

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 7:23 a.m.

    Redford supports a lot of great causes including the bombing of the pentagon by weather underground! When you receive an endorsement from a man like that......what's the point in asking for another endorsement? Go LGBT, allowing people like Redford to run the show just set your movement back a step!

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Sept. 18, 2013 6:49 a.m.

    Bob K
    porland, OR

    What if it were your son/daughter who was not hired because of being Gay?

    HOW, I repeat HOW would anyone know they were gay?

    That is the WHOLE POINT that is at issue in relation to those of same gender attraction.

    If you are gay, you CAN NOT be judged, slighted, marginalized, bullied, intimidated, or discriminated against if you do not broadcast the fact. NO ONE will know, so no one can afflict you with any kind of unwanted opinions or actions.

    I've heard more than one gay finally reach the conclusion life was better for them back in the days of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Back then, they were treated by everyone as a fellow human, treated like everyone else--with no drama, no undue attention, no negative attention, no consequences, no judgments, no negativity.

    Sometimes, there is a downside for being in everyone's faces and flaunting being gay.....

    Don't want downsides? Don't flaunt.

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Sept. 18, 2013 12:37 a.m.

    Provo, UT
    People!!!!! Gays have all the rights that straight people have except for marriage and face the facts that isn't ever going to happen in Utah

    Really? Does Utah protect women or Blacks from job discrimination, housing discrimination, etc? I will fall on the floor dead if you tell me that Gays have those rights in Utah.

  • Bob K porland, OR
    Sept. 17, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    What if it were your son/daughter who was not hired because of being Gay?

    What if it were your child who was the only unmarried one in the family, although happily with a great partner (perhaps one you like more than some of your other kids' legal mates)?

    What if the people here (presumably lds Christians) who make up and twist stories -- such as claiming a high divorce rate for Gays -- asked God to help them tell the truth?
    What if some of them retreated a bit from imagining they understand the lives of people who are different, and have the right to criticize them?
    What if we all understand that some States have passed anti-discrimination laws which may cause cake bakers problems, but are absolutely not telling churches what to do or whom to serve?

    Last weekend the lds stake in Honolulu sent out a letter to be read (sorry DN says no links) which urges political action by mormons to restrict the rights of others, under the guise of protecting people who believe discrimination is OK.

    Speculation has begun that the lds only held back to give Romney a chance, and will return to promoting discrimination.

  • hooptax Hooper, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    Robert Redford is the biggest embarrassment to the state of Utah. He certainly is no Utahan, and does not represent the average Utahan's views on anything. I wish he would just pack up and move back to California where he could be among like-minded people.

    I used to like Redford when he was just an actor and didn't try to push his liberal ideals on everyone else. "JUST SHUT-UP AND ACT!"

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    ...and the commandments of God are outdated and obsolete.

    Who is the next guest speaker? Ted Turner?

    No, not Ted.

    How 'bout Anthony Weiner!

  • mpo South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    I love and respect people who experience same-sex attraction (whether they choose to call themselves gay or not).

    And it is because I love them that it saddens me to see the world try to flatter them into limited, temporary relationships. These people are sons and daughters of God and are WORTH MORE than this!

    As children of God, we are entitled to His highest blessings if we keep His commandments. Why are we as a society encouraging some people to live beneath their privilege? Surely this is not what God intends for His children.

  • Convert Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    @jrp7sen aka "active LDS saint"...
    I, too, am an active LDS member. I, too, support LBGT rights, including marriage.

    I, too, believe the Proclamation On The Family, and the principle that in this day God's defination of marriage is limited to A man and A woman.

    We live in a land of laws governed by the Constitution and Supreme Court interpretation of it. Thus in some churches women hold their priesthood (eg Episcopalian). It is Constitutionally lawful to use the Name of Deity in vain. In fact it is Constitutional to break 7 of the Ten Commandments.

    If the Supreme Court rules that gay marriage is lawful, I support it, because I support the Constitution. And I would defend all those freedoms given under it.

    In the case of Gay Rights, I know they are discriminated against in marriage as well as other areas. This is not aligned with our country's freedoms.

    That being said, I do believe it is against the Will of God (at this time). I tend to agree with Steve Young's wife that the Church does "evolve" and very well could change the stance if homosexuality were determined to be a genetic variattion.

  • Candide Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    There is no "God given definition of marriage" because there is no God. There are humans that believe that a deity has spoken to them, but there is no proof. You will say, "we must have faith" and I say faith in which god? There are thousands that have been written about since writing was invented. Our country is a secular one and is defined by justice and liberty for all, not justice and liberty for those that believe as we do. Two consenting adults should be able to enter into a marriage contract no matter their genders. Gay marriage will come to all 50 states and the world will not end, hetero marriage will not die, and your children will wonder what all the fuss was about.

  • Ironman SANTA CLARA, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    ...and the commandments of God are outdated and obsolete.

    Who is the next guest speaker? Ted Turner?

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    Entertainers like Redford seek publicity wherever they can get it. He speaks to this crowd now, and gets their praise, but where was he on these issues 5 years ago? One year ago? Why didn't he make his opinions public years ago? If his personal beliefs are as strong as he makes them sound, what has taken him so long to speak up?

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    Follow the Prophet or follow Redford, one can not do both. I promote the Proclamation on the Family. It has sure worked for us. Redford lives on the edges of Zion, not in Zion. He is clueless on the topic.

  • downunder south jordan, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Please these are the kind of worthless stories that are killing newspapers!

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    Would you support same sex Temple marriages? If so then how about polygamist Temple marriages? Think about it.

    JD Tractor
    You bring up a good point that is often missed by the equal rights crowd. (or they don't really care as long as they get what they want) and that is that some times when giving one right to one group you take away the rights of others. For those of you who don't agree, try affirmative action or school busing as examples.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    christoph: Polygamy is against the law and yes is discrimination because freedom of religion is protected under the Constitution.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    People!!!!! Gays have all the rights that straight people have except for marriage and face the facts that isn't ever going to happen in Utah

  • bw00ds Tucson, AZ
    Sept. 17, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    @jrp7sen aka "active LDS saint"

    "Poorly thought out?" Since you are an "active LDS saint," I assume you have read the Proclamation on the Family? That is not "poorly thought out."

    Quoting no-longer valid Old Testiment Jewish law does not strengthen your argument. And divorce rates for gay marriages? Please do some research. They are sky high. The term "marriage" is not owned by religion--it is owned by God. By saying that religion gets in the way of the rights of others, you show a complete lack of understanding about our church and the Plan of Salvation. I hope that one day you will.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    Bob Redford, an entertainer. Important because he entertains people with his festival and ski resort which boosts the economy.

    He entertains people when he speaks at political fund-raising dinners, and by his stylish dress.

    Thank you for entertaining people and supporting the Utah economy.

  • davidmpark Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 7:32 a.m.

    Instead of creating special rights of groups of people, why not just scale it all back to law enforcement punishes crimes of assault, murder, and theft - regardless of their sexuality and beliefs. Equality in the law.

    And if this is about marriage rights, then the state should get out of the business altogether - send it back to the religions to perform and enforce their views on marriage. Let it become a theocratic debate rather than political.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 17, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    "the God given definition"

    Those words have been used over and over throughout history to justify doing bad things to people.

    If you're going to try to shape real-world laws using the "god given" rules of religious texts, then you're doomed to an endless struggle trying to defend irrationality, cruelty, and hypocrisy.

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 17, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    "Like you, I believe there's no place in our world for discrimination. None." Robert Redford

    Well I hope he actually believes that. So his next stand is on Broadway condemning the musical, "The Book of Mormon". Then he moves to California to the couples bakery that was attacked and finally closed because the LGTB community doesn't believe in personal choice or an individual beliefs or conscience.

    And finally I'm sure he will say to the LTGB crowd, "If people believe that marriage is between one man and one woman, why would we discriminate against their choice of lifestyle? After all they have as much right to their beliefs as you do."

  • jrp7sen Logan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2013 11:56 p.m.

    bw00ds. That was a rather poorly thought out post. It gave me all sorts of heartache. You might as well have said: I agree with equal rights for all, UNLESS it means making other people equal. Really? You just said that. Literally.

    Besides, no religion owns the word "marriage". In fact, marriage between a man and a woman in the Muslim faith, in the Buddhist faith, or as atheists contradicts the precious "sanctity" of marriage anyway according to how Christians would depict it.

    Also, I find that your argument holds no water because "traditional marriage" as stated in the Bible also includes a woman having to marry her rapist. A man marrying hundreds of concubines. Polygamy. (We don't need to bring up the sanctity in that, right? Us Mormons did that once, after all. /sarcasm)

    There is a problem with religion when it tries to interfere on the rights of other people as it has done since the rise of the Catholic church.

    Divorce is the problem to marriage. Marriage is not its own problem.

    I support gay marriage. /signed an active LDS saint.

  • franc Kirkland, WA
    Sept. 16, 2013 11:02 p.m.

    Redford believes there should be no prejudice and no discrimination ... except for those silly Mormons. Then it's acceptable, I guess.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 16, 2013 11:02 p.m.

    To Bob Redford, they already have rights, so let us move on to talking about art, poetry, sunsets and science and beauty. Bob, how do you see history? All discrimination? That is a negative way to judge our forefathers. And where do we stop? Is polygamy next? If we outlaw polygamy, is that discrimination? Why only have 2 people in marriage? If you can't say no to gay marriage, you will never be able to say no to anything.

  • bw00ds Tucson, AZ
    Sept. 16, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    With great interest, I read the story yesterday about Steve Young and his wife and seeing their efforts. I agree with Mr. Redford about granting equal rights for all--as long as that does not mean changing the God given definition of the sanctity of marriage. I think Mr. Redford's remarks may have inferred that, not sure, though.