Dick Harmon: In the aftermath of BYU's shocking win over Texas, the number 550 had to get somebody fired

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  • Carson Provo, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 5:27 p.m.

    The Y won't get past Utah or Utah State!

  • jaba166 Wasilla, AK
    Sept. 11, 2013 4:49 a.m.

    Everyone keeps talking about the "better talent" of the Texas Longhorns - but we have all learned that talent coming out of high school is very over-rated. Many top recruits just don't pan out. Scout only evaluates potential, and the talent of BYU players vs Texas players coming out of HS doesn't equate to the talent those players have mentally / physically / intangibly after 1, 2, or 3+ years in the program. I do feel that Texas is a much better team than they showed Saturday, and didn't play as well as they can play, much the same as BYU showed at Virginia, I do believe that BYU's team proved that they presently are collectively more "talented" than the Longhorns. So glad that football is a team sport. BYU's current talent is a credit to the coaches and the character of the players.

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    Sept. 11, 2013 2:57 a.m.

    I found it shocking that Texas was given a "pass" on the loss to BYU, while BYU in losing to Virginia by virtue of a stupid call resulting in a pick 6, was given no quarter for the loss. In fact the only papers, the only TV, local or cablle, giving BYU any credit were the Dallas, Houston, Austin and SLC media. The Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle and Austin's American, not only had the "what happened to the 'Horns" but also balanced coverage out with "BYU was superb" comments. Nationally the word was: "How could Texas get beat by a bad team that couldn't even beat a terrible team like Virginia?". BYU hasn't yet gotten enough respect to be given either an excuse for a horrible loss or credit for an amazing win. Saturday's match was even more impressive that the heretofore best win in Cougar history, the victory over the most talented team in college football, at the time, Oklahome in 2009, here in Texas. Keep in mind three of the four top players drafted in 2010 were Sooners. I don't recall that ever happening in my lifetime.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Mack Brown will be next if he loses 4 or more games this year. With #25 Ole Miss, #14 O.U., #24 TCU, #12 Oklahaoma St., and #22 Baylor still to play; that's likely.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 10, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    If the difference is coaching, Bronco deserves a raise. Based on my estimate, Mack Brown (by himself) makes at least 3X more than all the BYU football coaches combined.

    There's something wrong when the taxpayers pay a coach like Mack Brown 15X more than we pay the President of the U.S.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    "You have to go back to 1992 to find the last time byu went 4-0 aginast Utah."

    You dont even have to go back that far to find Utah's FIRST ranked season in 1994, and it would be almost another decade before its second in 2003. Contrast that with a BYU program that earned its first ranked season almost two decades before in 1977, and had earned ten more, including a national championship, before Utah earned its first.

    BYU fans who have been around longer than the last ten years know that the Johnny Come Lately Utes cant come close to the rich history and tradition of BYU Football, even with their BCS wins and PAC-12 membership. Maybe that will change, only the future will tell, but for now the only thing that matters is who will win on September 21. And this time, the Cougars are not going to roll over for the Utes like the last time they hosted them in Provo. KVN and company are going to give Wilson and the Utes the same kind of welcome they gave the Ash and the Longhorns.

    BYU 30
    Utah 17

    Mark it down!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    Chris B

    Unfortunately for U, Van Noy won't have to say anything after wreaking havoc on Utah's offense.

    He'll simply relish watching U eating crow.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:05 p.m.


    I wonder what Van Noy will say after losing his Super Bowl game against Utah, and finishing his career 0-4 against his rival.

    You have to go back to 1992 to find the last time byu went 4-0 aginast Utah.

    And we're about to do it for the SECOND time since then.


  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    @ Chris B:

    Your selective memory is amusing. Just before the current 3-0 Utah mini-streak, BYU beat Utah 3 out of 4 games. The series has a long time history of going back and forth... as it very soon will again.

    Yes, the times have changed and are about to change again. September 21st begins a new win streak for BYU. To keep saying otherwise, Chris, is simply going to make Utah's loss hurt even worse than it already will. If you weren't so hilarious, it would be sad to see how badly you are setting yourself up for such a big letdown.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Its one thing for a team like Texas to lose to BYU in the passing game, but it really was astounding to see the Cougars run through that big O-line like they were Weber State.

  • dww722 North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    BYU will handle Utah by 13 (minimum) September 21. Mark it down CB. The Utes are nowhere close the Longhorns (or most Pac teams)in any way.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 10, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    This star system is more a popularity thing.

    Jake Heaps vs Chucky Keeton?

    I couldn't see where the Texas players were any faster, or stronger than the cougs. To the utes, yes.

    Which Longhorn players were faster than Williams, or Van Noy?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 8:17 a.m.


    We beat you more than you beat us, and are about to finish the career 4-0 SWEEP of you.

    And yes, that is strongly correlated to our better athletes.

    Whatever you are trying to spin isn't working.

    It will be the SECOND 4-0 sweep of the last 15 years!

    Do you know how far back you have to look to get the last 2 4-0 streaks for byu over Utah?


    Very far

    Very very far!

    Oh how the times have changed!

  • Sandyclaws Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    Reader comments in some Texas newspapers included some who speculated that Bronco Mendenhall might be a good replacement for Mac Brown. But only if he's interested in a $3 million salary increase. And in Texas, they love his name.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Sept. 10, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    Completely lost on the author is the fact that the DEFENSE and Special Teams won this game, more than the offense, which was stellar, I'll admit.

    Texas could not get in a rhythm because the BYU Defense was pressuring the QB all game. Van Noy is the real deal, and the D-line stepped up. 'Nuff said.

    Sept. 10, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    "So, the difference in this game had to be coaching"

    It is not only the coaching, it is also the players who are humble and willing to do what the coaches ask which includes putting the team first. Texas players might have more individual talent, but they certainly didn't have the 'team' talent that night!

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    I enjoyed the comment from an ESPN announcer. Texas is a privledged program. BYU considers it a privledge to play football.

  • ItrustNo1 La Grange, TN
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:28 a.m.

    Dick, your comment about Texas being so much more talented then BYU was proven false by the 550 yards. I listen to you guys that write, predict and report this stuff week after week, in every sport, and you are proven wrong at least half the time, and yet your answer is the equivalent of "nothing was proven on the field". The story is exactly what happened on the field, not some observers baseless excuses the day after the event. Don't buy into the "BCS" label means "Better". Their isn't a Athlete on any team that straps on his or her equipment, and lines up opposite their counter part, thinking that they can't hold their own against their opponent, and they have proven this to be true time and time again. Just because some magazine or "SCOUT" says someone or something is better then something else, doesn't make it so. BYU, congratulations, you guys are looking better every week. Keep up the hard work.

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    The question now is...which Utah coach will be fired on September 22nd?

  • podunk utah DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 6:48 a.m.

    Mack Brown should have fired himself, the guy is completely overrated

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 6:37 a.m.

    I think the fast paced BYU offense and altitude got the better of an early season over-confident Texas team, plus they lost a big part of their speed offense after the first series. BYU is better than the Virginia showing, and Texas is probably better than their BYU debacle. Anything can happen in College football on any given day.

  • baddog Cedar Rapids, IA
    Sept. 10, 2013 5:48 a.m.

    The sum was greater than its parts. Teamwork can overcome talent. It's happened quite often in this young football season. Perhaps the root cause of upsets comes from how teams are ranked. And "upsets" aren't always upsets.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 10:46 p.m.

    Like I have been saying, stars do not matter.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    Which brings up my oft asked question and oft avoided by Ute fans: Utah has by far and away more players go to the NFL than BYU. So how come BYU has only been blown out 1 time, lost narrowly several times and won sometimes. For the obvious disparity of NFL talent I should think Utah would dominate and they haven't (and two narrow wins are not domination).

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:00 p.m.

    Football is controlled warfare.

    BYU beating Texas is like the American colonists defeating the British.

  • Girlse State Midvale, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    UTAHDUDE, so you are part of the 63% of utes who prefer a win over byu to a bowl game? Well we are glad to be able to provide you a bowl game.

  • Girlse State Midvale, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    Good win against Texas. In order of games i wanted to win the most, this one was up there

    1 notre dame
    2 Wisconsin
    3 Texas
    4 Boise
    5 usu/Utah

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    And the only game that matters 10 times more is UTAH !!!!!!!

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    BYU did something they haven't done for a very long time that led to this victory --

    -- Instead of trying to push a certain attack all season long in every single game, they found the weakness in their opponent and exploited it to the max unabashedly.

    Poor Texas, they were trying to do the exact opposite and dictate how the game would be played. Kind of like the British redcoats telling the colonial militias to stand up and exchange volleys. It didn't work.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    "One thing that is not debatable is the complete mismatch of talent that was on both sidelines that night — if you believe in recruiting services like scout.com.

    Texas gets whomever it wants. BYU is extremely thankful to get athletes the caliber of Kyle Van Noy and Ezekiel Ansah once a decade or so.

    So, the difference in this game had to be coaching; the work by BYU head coach Bronco Mendenhall and offensive coordinator Robert Anae and the preparation and execution they instilled in players.

    The proof is the number 550."

    A total team and coaching mismatch for BYU.