One teen killed, another injured in Murray shooting

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  • Miss Murray utah, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    I am not sure why there are no details to be found about this story but the truth is that it was accidental.. One friend shooting another, and then himself. I feel for the parents of both of these children...

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 10:16 a.m.

    People who want to do away with, or ban all guns, I would ask, How? Exactly how do you do it? Make them illegal? Ya, that would work, because then guys who break laws everyday would just find a way to get them, like they do illegal drugs.`Maybe you want to stop the manufacture of all firearms? Again, criminals could fashion a firearm rather easily now days, especially with the info easily available on the internet. So, what is your solution? More laws? Registrations that only law abiding citizens will obey. Criminals who commit crimes with guns will never obey laws or register their weapons. Over 99% of people who own a firearm will never use it against another person. Even if you got rid of every firearm ever produced, you would still have crime, and as evidenced by the Boston bombing, really messed up people will resort to weapons of mass destruction as their tool to create havoc. So, again, what is your answer?

  • PhotoSponge nampa, ID
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    I still don't get it....What part of "...shall not be infringed" don't people understand????? I don't own a gun and don't know that I ever will, but there should be NO GUN CONTROLS AT ALL. You should not have to have a permit to carry, or a background check or anything. If you want a gun, just go to the store and buy one and that's it.

    It doesn't matter WHAT controls the government tries to put into place, criminals will ALWAYS find a way to get a gun. Period.

    So why stop the good guys from having one??? It makes no sense at all.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    Beverly; I read both posted articles about this shooting, and the details are non existent. You are right it is a shame that it happened, but how do you know that it isn't a matter of self defense. there are simply not enough details to make that decision, and as lobotech says, I don't want to be a victim. As for 'not here', I agree with you, an 18 year old shouldn't be able to buy a handgun. or smokes, or booze.

  • Lobotech Grantsville, UT
    Sept. 8, 2013 8:56 p.m.

    RE: Beverly Guns have almost no regulation? How did you come to that determination? Especially if what you claimed in previous posts is factual, that you are, or at least were in the business of law enforcement.
    You can give me 100 terrible cases in which a fire arm was abused. I can give an equal number in which they saved at least one life.
    But as a veteran of this countries military, in which I stood up for your rights. Even your right to be critical of me. You decide to take MY rights?

    IF you wish to stand aside and be a victim, please feel free. But I refuse to.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Sept. 8, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Dear Dogchow:
    We regulate cars. You need a driver's license, a vehicle inspection, a license and registration. We require these things because we know that cars can be dangerous if they are not taken care of and if people don't know how to properly use them. Gun have almost no regulation and we kill over 30,000 people every year in America with guns. We are all responsible for our collective failure to act.

    Sept. 8, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    Re; dogchow 1

    Or the problem is the culture that is trying to get it so teenagers can own a hand gun at 18, but heaven help them if they try to buy a pack of smokes or a beer. Is this the same culture your taking about in the state in with you live?

  • dogchow1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 8, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    Re: Beverly

    The usual anti-gun spiel.It could just as easily read:

    Another senseless death with a car. How many Utahans will be killed with a car before we realize that doing nothing is contributing to these unnecessary deaths. Yes, "Cars don't kill people, people kill people." In reality it is "People with cars kill people."

    Or insert knives, or whatever else gets your goat...
    The problem is not the method, (people will find a way), the problem is the culture and morals in our society.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Sept. 8, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    Another senseless death with a gun. How many Utahans will be shot and killed with a gun before we realize that doing nothing is contributing to these unnecessary deaths. Yes, "Guns don't kill people, guns kill people." In reality it is "People with guns kill people."