Doug Robinson: Did Niners do Collie a favor?

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  • texinnc Pocatello, ID
    Oct. 3, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    There's only one solution: take off the helmets and take off the pads. And, while we're at it, shut down the programs at all the universities and have football be something we do in intramural programs. But, if we did that, where would the alumni contributions come from? And, there would be no minor-league players to prepare for the pros. And, if there's no pipeline, what would we do on Sundays? What a dilemma. What would we do to replace our chance to watch young men destroy their physical futures? to have their brains scrambled before our eyes? . . . Seeing no alternatives, bring on the chips and drinks.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Sept. 5, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    Albany, NY
    Good article. But McMahon, ... is not alumnus of BYU.

    If that is true, why does the BYU Alumni Assoc keep bugging me for donations 30 years after my freshman (only) year at BYU?

  • Dave Duncan Orem, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    Are helmets the problem? It seems like players use them as a weapon. In similar sports, like rugby, head-on collisions are rare, because players know not to lead with their unprotected heads. Football has become a game where players hurl their bodies, headfirst at each other. I wonder how different it would be without the helmets and massive shoulder pads.

  • A. Collie BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 3:51 p.m.

    Every young man who plays little league football or high school football dreams of playing in the NFL, it is terribly tragic that due to bunny rabbits...cotton candy...wait, what was I saying? #magic

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Sept. 4, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    I am sad that your self worth seems to be tied to how many former Utes are in the NFL!!! I am more concerned with how many former BYU players used their education opportunities and are good fathers and husbands and leaders then how many made it to and are currently making a living in the NFL!!! Many former BYU players have done very well in the NFL!!! I am now and will always be a true blue BYU and will always root for current and former players to succeed in the game they love to play and the one I love to watch, but it is far more important for them to succeed in life!!!

    Go Cougs!!!

  • MrRed Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    Mr. Colied had three diagnosed concussions, and probably suffered more undiadnosed ones. While I am not a fan of his, I sincerely hope that he retires from football immediately.d to say, but ai somewhat expect that he will suffer from ACE.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 1:16 p.m.


    Alumnus can be a graduate or a past student. Jimmy Mac is only a few credits shy of a degree. He qualifies.

  • JDS1 St George, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Re: Christopher

    Why take an interesting topic and turn it into a BYU bashing blog? You really have to get a life. I don't believe Collie is done yet, he will resurface somewhere, maybe even back with the 49ers. Stay tuned.

  • MESOUTE Albany, NY
    Sept. 4, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    Good article. But McMahon, as much as I as a Utah Man loved following his career and rooting for him, is not alumnus of BYU. A small error but I am tired of the news getting their facts wrong in so many areas of all areas of the news.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    They cut him because he's not good enough.

    They knew about his concussion history when they brought him in.

    He didn't make the team because he's not that good.

    Bringing the total of guys who've played under Bronco who are PLAYING in the NFL down to ?


    Ziggy and who else?

    And just to be clear, by playing I mean playing. As in real downs. Real regular season games. For real NFL teams.

  • Just Truth Saratoga Springs, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    Even if Collie knows he could become the worst case scenario late in life, he might very well choose to play (Mcmahon likely would to, for that matter). And even if you think you are saving him from himself it is unbelievable how some of you would gladly take away his choice as though you are his self-proclaimed savior. He might as well be a vegetable now for the rest of his days, if he agrees with all the possible risks of living life more fully than a couch potato life. Better yet, given the many ways that all of you could hurt yourselves in this world, why not pay me to take that all away from you so you can live in the bubble I provide you?

  • Tie Detmersh Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    Well, gol dern. I played my fair share of games and got knocked around good. I got a couple o' lasting effects. I'd hate to see someone else get their bell rung good. Shucks!

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    I have liked watching football in the past but I'm changing my tune. I never played but have watched my dad and uncle (pro player in the 60s) decline. Now my 8 year old son is asking to play tackle football. The ONLY response I can resonably give him is No, you need to grow up and be able to function as a father and to provide for your family. If he is hurt young that could affect his ability to get into college and to succeed there and in a future career. As far as I'm concerned the 'responsible' Universities in the country should stop sponsoring football. I'd think that the Ivy League schools would lead the way. And BYU should be leading as well. That would take serious courage but what a statement that would make "we're dropping full contact football and other full contact sports because of possible head injury in our students". It would be amazing! Let's make this happen.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Perhaps someday we will see footbsll banned. One concussion and no more football would be my rule.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Why is it no one reminds Jim McMahon that he used to headbutt his Chicago teammates as hard as possible after touchdowns and sometimes headbutt them after great defensive plays without having his helmet on? He took pride in being so tough. Those activities had nothing to do with playing the game, it was his own stupidity.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Our worship of football is not limited to the NFL. Starting with the fact the Utah football coach gets paid so much more than anyone else at the University. What messages are we sending the players in college and even high school. If football is hazardous to their health why don't the players and parents know about it.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Sept. 4, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    Collie has had some great times playing football. Now it's time to get on with life and use his skills to find a better career. We all hope that he does well and is well.

  • jaredw007 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    Robinson seems to making the accusation that Collie is just some naive idiot who is in denial about the risks he's taking. The fact is he consulted with Neurologists and doctors who have all told him he's fine...for now. I'm sure he fully understands the risks he's taking by playing again as should any other player in the NFL who suits up for a game. But I don't think he was waived because his concussion history otherwise they wouldn't have signed and kept Colt McCoy on the team.

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 7:23 a.m.

    I like Collie. I wish him well.

    Most people are not fortunate enough to do something they love so much. If we are all going to die anyway, it seems going out doing what you have a passion for is better than wasting away in mediocre monotony playing it safe.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 12:03 a.m.

    Did the 49ers do Collie a favor? Well, in terms of saving his life . . . maybe they did.

  • USNGary South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 9:58 p.m.

    I think these guys who play football KNOW the risks for head injuries. Just look at the development of the helmets that went from leather covers to what they are today. You can't tell me no one knew of the dangers. But, to put things into perspective, look at how many people have played the game and have no problems, a perfect example is Steve Young. He had it seems like a concussion every game and he retired and is still doing well. Austin's problem with his concussions is he lowered his head each time when he got hit. If he learned to keep his head up, he will do fine!

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Re: yarrlydarb

    yeah sure, let's blame their fathers. By your reasoning these men must have been lied to by someone, in this case a father, and now they can't make decisions of their own accord.

    I see it a lot of today's problems coming from the fact that no one can accept responsibility for their own actions. Why do we continually sue each other? In many cases it's solely because we can't admit that we were too stupid to take precautions for our own safety. I Disagree that the NFL was negligent in telling these men that there were dangers in the game. Anyone watching a football game knows there is risk of both immediate and future physical damage.

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    Maybe the concussions are clouding his judgement, he played well, probably should retire.

  • 4BS St George, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:18 p.m.

    Re: yarrlydarb

    I don't think blaming a so called 'fanatic' father is fair. These guys are adults and can make their own decisions. Austin is a heck of a player and still has a lot to offer. If he believes he can still play and is cleared medically, then more power to him.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 3, 2013 8:05 p.m.

    I think if Austin Collie had to live for awhile with the problems Jim McMahon suffers from he wouldn't need any convincing to get out of the game.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Sept. 3, 2013 7:37 p.m.

    He needs to move on with his life. He wasn't built to last in the NFL game and not everyone is. Get out while you can still walk and talk and enjoy time with family.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 5:40 p.m.

    The problem stems from the fact that little boys are taught by their fathers (mostly) to worship the sport. They see that Dad loves the game by never missing a single one when "his" team is playing.

    These fathers drive their kids to become what they (fathers) never were. The pressure is intense because there is nothing that boys would rather do in life than please their male parents.

    Sure, now all the diehard fans who read this comment will quickly write their own diatribe stating that their fathers could not care less and that all their drive to be "great" was from within themselves.

    Maybe there are such examples, but no matter. The great majority, including Austin Collie, had a fanatic father who surely gave unforgettable and undeniable verbal and nonverbal praise in each game where they played well and unbearable and equally unforgettable derision when they did poorly.

    It's a fact that these young men would rather die fighting with everything they have to win. Vince Lombardi described exactly what they feel inside themselves; "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing!"

    Balderdash! Just ask Jim McMahon and the rest whether they believe the lie now.

  • utah cornhusker NORFOLK, NE
    Sept. 3, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Well written article. I know it is a rough and tumble sport. For mr. Collie, taking so many hits at such a young age and especially when it is the head. I Hope this settlement helps but Hope they find and develop better helmets etc. Football is about as american as Apple pie.

  • The Big One Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    amen Doug