@MidvaelianWhat in the heck are you talking about? The police officer
just went to check out why a vehicle was sitting in the road parked strangely
which is his job. And from the outcome we know that the vehicle needed to be
checked out. You talk about SWAT teams and how maybe if a pretty unarmed female
officer just went up to the car maybe the suspect would have responded nicely.
What are you smoking? The officer never opened fire on this guy, the SWAT team
wasn't there at the time and he may have already shot the woman in the car
with him. This is not a case of an officer out of control causing a guy to feel
cornered and flip out. There was already stuff going on with this guy. He had
a woman and gun in his vehicle and he was driving up and down the road crashing
into things This situation is not an example that fits your rant about
militarized police. An officer checked out a suspicious car and was ambushed.
If his gun were at the ready he would have fired back. He wasn't looking
for a shoot out.
Re: "A hero is somebody who does something or makes a decision that is
heroic."You mean like putting himself between us and the bad
guys every day. Like investigating and handling the incident on Sunday that
started out as a parking infraction and, with no apparent warning, turned into
murder and mayhem?Like dealing professionally with an
unappreciative, often hostile public that feels duty bound to confidantly, but
ignorantly second-guess every action?Real people call that
MidvalieanYour proposed solution to this problem is more pretty female
officers? That's not at all sexist.
Our prayers are with the Johnson family, too sad an officer has to die for the
public to show simpathy and understanding for a police officer's job and to
recognize the nature of their job
It is so disappointing to read the comments of people who are so willing to pass
judgment against those who must make split second decisions about the safety of
their lives and others. Sure, there are bad cops just like there are bad
teachers. Whenever human beings are involved you will have good and bad, but
this does not mean we should start throwing out hate terms and lump all into a
group, just because of a very few. Think people! and thank you to those who risk
and sacrifice so much for us.God bless the memory of this officer
and peace and comfort to his family.
Honest question. Why is the cop a "hero?" I think its tragic he was
killed. My heart aches. But he was simply murdered. He didn't really do
anything special. A hero is somebody who does something or makes a decision
that is heroic. This guy was simply doing his job. Don't get me wrong, I
am horrified by the loss of his life here, but hero? Anybody who happened upon
that guy was gonna get shot.I am also horrified by the police
militarization. So the officer is shot and suddenly every cop within a hundred
miles shows up with an M4 and a grudge. We're lucky nobody else was hurt.
Look at boston, the police shot and almost killed one of their own while trying
to shoot the bad guys.Finally, Police work is the 14th most
dangerous job (for death) in the US. Policemen die at a rate of about half the
rate of farmers. Something to think about before you advocate more police
Maybe the reporter could have asked whether drugs were involved? There's a
lot that needs to be answered here. And of course, the remedy will be that our
police become even more militarized.Further, anyone take note of the
lockdown of a large area? Was this for public safety, police safety, or simply a
demonstration of police authority? Or does no one care? Militarized
and authoritative police, and spying on all citizens' electronic
communications and activity. That's a police state.
May God bless Sgt. Derek Johnson and protect his family.
@NeilT --"It is obvious some of the posters didn't even
bother to read the article. "Keep in mind that this article has
been rewritten several times since it was posted. The original article
didn't have any information at all about who the shooter was. At that point
they didn't even know whether the shooter had been captured. So, naturally,
some of the earlier commenters didn't have all the information available to
them.@procurador --"it's callow hubris for a
poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a
problem he clearly knows nothing about"Back atcha, big guy. You
don't have nearly enough info to declare that this has anything to do with
drugs or alcohol, either. It could just as easily be one of those
"ex-boyfriend kills ex-girlfriend and then kills himself" fiascos, only
with really bad aim. We just don't know yet!
It is obvious some of the posters didn't even bother to read the article.
The perpetrator is in the hospital. It appears after he shot the officer he
turned on a passenger in his vehicle, shot her and then shot himself. Both
are in the hospital in critical condition. I can't help but wonder if the
officer had been wearing body armor he might have survived. Just a thought.
Unfortunately we will never know.
Re: "Any drug arrests should be done without S[WAT] teams."Hey, if you can convince the drug cartels, I'm sure the police would be
grateful.In the meantime, however, it's callow hubris for a
poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a
problem he clearly knows nothing about, somehow more credible than those of
trained, experienced experts, much closer to the action.And, BTW,
here's betting drugs WERE involved in this bizarre crime, just another in a
long series of incidents proving, beyond any doubt, that drug and alcohol use
are NOT cute, sophisticated, victimless, consequence-less pastimes.
@Reasonable PersonEveryone feels sympathy for the fallen's family.
However do not try and drape your opinion in some kind of holier than yours
because you are on the side of the deceased. There is always time for a
discussion about police tactics, especially in light of multiple dead people.
Its safe to say that since it ended in the police officer slain, we should
critique this situation ever more diligently than normal.
Some situations are made worse by cops. WHAT IF a pretty female cop unarmed
went into talk to him? The mere fact of adding a male who is armed to any
conversation can turn it for the worst, despite the male cops best efforts.
Seen it time and time again.
When one looses a spouse or a child, it leaves a hole in your heart forever. It
a ache that doesn't go away. I feel so sorry for his wife and son.
This isn't and shouldn't be a political issue. A good man died today
and isn't going home to his wife and son. I know how that feels as a wife
and I'm so very sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with this little family.
My total sympathies are with the deceased officer, his family, and the Draper
PD.@MidvalieanWhat you call "militarized police" iis
the direct result of the easily-obtainable militarized weapons that are
trafficked throughout our country, without a bit of regulation. When
one "gun promoter" has to own 300 guns, has an AR-15 stolen from his
unsecured vehicle, and when others have similar armories, are the police
supposed to respond with a bow and arrow?This is not the time for
your NRA rants
So sorry to hear of the death of Sergeant Johnson. It is a tragic loss for his
family, friends and the community. There will always be debate about the
split-second decisions police have to make concerning the use of deadly force.
Unfortunately, we will always need to have men and women willing to risk their
lives every day to protect a society that will never truly appreciate their
I mourn for Officer Johnson. I send my condolences to his family, friends, and
colleagues of which my son was one. Facts will emerge, conjecture can wait,
politicking is inappropriate. God Bless Derek Johnson.
@not everyone is evil --Please rest assured that nobody here wishes
to compare this particular cop to anyone bad or corrupt. Thanks for
chiming in with some personal reflections of the man. I'm sure he will be
both honored and missed.
I live in Draper and know this cop and his family. He was an AMAZING man that
treated everyone equally. He is the kind of cop, that all cops should be like.
He had an great foundation and a living wife and child. I hate the fact that he
is being compared to all these horrible people, when he was not one of them. So
please if your a hater, find another page to hate on. My heart goes out to
Dereks wife and family. Much love!!
Could they have driven him to a hospital faster than the 30 minutes they waited
for the helicopter?
@DN Subscriber 2: This criminal perpetrator is every bit as worthy of a cell on
death row at the Point of the Mountain facility as suspected WVC Shawn Cowley
is. The unarmed woman, Daneille Willard WAS NOT a threat to Detectives Cowley
& Salmon whereas this individual police would have every justifiable means
to use deadly force if it comes down to it. Perhaps Sim Gill should prosecute
you and others who defend bad police behavior with sedition. You're as low
as the ACLU dfense attorneys who defend the worst of the criminals with
frivelous motions and nonesense in court.
I'll be interested to see how this turns out. I'm not a big fan of
the militarized police. When people want to solve problems with guns first
people can get unnecessarily killed. Any drug arrests should be done
without Swat teams. You dont' need to go into the vipers nest to get the
viper most times. Just wait for the viper to leave and catch it later. That is
what we should be using surveillance for. Not many details, I won't
rush to judge, I just wish the police considered other measures first. SWAT
seems to be the favorite card to play, when it should be the last card ever
To DN Subscriber 2A Police Officer died this morning protecting the
citizens of Draper and this State. This is a time of mourning for this Officer
and a time to support his colleagues, family and friends.Why DN
Subscriber 2 do you continually have to attempt to make hay over tragedy to
further your political agenda?You don't know all the facts and
I'm personally tired of your attempt to make everything political and your
attack methods against people in various political offices that had nothing to
do with a particular situation. I'm actually shocked that in your post you
didn't blame Obama in some way for this tragedy.I offer my
condolences to the family and colleagues of this brave officer.
I hope I don't see any cop haters on this board. It is people like this is
why the police have to do what they do
@higv --"And we hear how bad the police are."The
police are both bad and good. Unfortunately, the bad ones hold the power of life
and death just as much as the good ones do.We do not forgive a
fireman for setting fires just because good firemen are killed on duty.We do not forgive a surgeon for operating while drunk just because he has
previously saved lives.Likewise, the dangers of a police
officer's job do not ever excuse him or her from carrying out his duties
with extreme care and diligence.I sincerely hope they catch the guy
who did this, and I feel for any family that the officer may have left
behind.I also sincerely hope that innocent bystanders don't get
injured in the process.
And we hear how bad the police are when someone loses there life that does not
simply comply with what they say. Every week throughout this nation several
police officers lose there lives to protect us. And we hear how bad the police