Pleasant Grove mom says marijuana compound could help her son

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 2:35 a.m.

    Freedom from the nanny state.

  • washcomom Beaverton, OR
    Aug. 31, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    If this is a medical drug, then label it as such. Marijuana that has CBD has to be a drug that is regulated by the FDA, and dispensed like any other narcotic. It should not be over the counter, nor should it be sold out of shops or on the street corner. People shouldn't be allowed to grow it.

    But, we are far away from that ideal. There are too many variables and too many issues.

  • Eliyahu Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 31, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @Fitz: Do a bit of research on Aspirin side-effects and dangers. This common drug is available over the counter with no restrictions and can be found in just about every home. According to FDA stats, it's also responsible for hundreds of accidental deaths each year, as well as thousands of near-deaths -- far more dangerous than any form of marijuana. In fact, if Aspirin were introduced as a new drug, it would either be made prescription-only or banned from sale because of the risks. Just about every drug on the market, prescription or OTC, will have some risks involved with it, but that isn't a good reason to prohibit their sale. A risk/benefit analysis shows that marijuana and its derivatives are far safer than many of the drugs you can purchase at your local grocery store without any restrictions. If you insist on meds being "totally safe", you'll have to eliminate every single one of them currently on the market.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 11:18 p.m.

    Were it my kid I would get the medical marijuana legal or not. A state has no business depriving people of the medicine they need.

  • ChemistryIsMyGame Springtown, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 5:32 p.m.

    In that FDA study where Marijuana, Cannabis or Cannbinoids, is the criteria for *Primary* cause of death, there are still zero. 279 is secondary contribution only. Which means it *may have been* (but not conclusively) a contributor.

    Raw cannabis is a potent vasodilator; mixing it with heart medications (i.e. if you're being treated for some kind of heart condition) or ED drugs like Viagra/Cialis is not a good idea. It can also speed the absorption of other drugs because the dilation of blood vessels increases the amount of surface area available for absorption across any given vascular/organ barrier.

    In the era of time-released drugs and molecular absorption-profile engineering, this can cause all kinds of problems. The case here, is the patient's fault for not doing their homework.

    I'm not sure how cannabis could be a contributor to stroke in any age group, since it reduces blood pressure. Generally, a stroke is a section of the brain that dies suddenly due to lack of blood flow. Most strokes are caused by localized increases of pressure (lodged clots and cholesterol plaque) or ruptured aneurysm due to increased blood pressure.

    Cannabis is still safer than tylenol.

  • Fitz Murray, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    Dig a little bit, you will find the FDA reported that between the years 1997-2005 pot contributed to 279 deaths, with 187 directly related to pot. The Drug Awareness Network says that in 2002 there were 157 deaths were pot was the only drug involved, and that there were 581 deaths directed related to pot. There goes the myth that marijuana has never caused a death.

    The Journal of Academy of Pediatrics has published articles that indicate the use of marijuana can cause strokes and death in kids. Three studies were done, in 1987, 1991, and 1996. There are newer studies that indicate use of pot by adolescents impairs the development of the brain. And it has been proven that, like alcohol, pot can impair ones driving.

    The pubic, it would seem, does not get a clear picture of the damage that marijuana can, and does, do to kids and adults. CA, CO, OR, WA, have all gone way past prescription marijuana. If you start using it as a "controlled" medicine, where does it stop?

    Pot is illegal under federal law. Right now we have a President (self-acclaimed pothead) that ignores enforcement, what happens when he is replaced?

  • ChemistryIsMyGame Springtown, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    Just because I'd rather people stay informed...
    CBD is a different compound entirely from THC. (Think of rubbing alcohol and grain alcohol... Chemical structures related, but not the same)

    CBD has no psychotropic effects. It does not get you *high* at all.
    Cannabidiol is an EXTREMELY significant medically useful compound.

    Its been studied for use with success against seizure disorders including epilepsy, several forms of cancer, as a painkiller for both neuropathy and inflammation, Schizophrenia, an anti-inflammatory, symptoms of Parkinsons... The list goes ON AND ON.
    [ "cannabidiol treatment"

    If you're LDS and anti-cannabis, you need to go read Genesis 1:29 and rethink your position, and its extracted constituents:

    "29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    PGVikingDad, please know Stockton has my undying support. The one thing I am most frightened of is another seizure. I had cancer, and the choice of whether to have chemo--seizures were most likely, and the main reason I chose not to have it. I'm sure your son feels the same. He's a brave one, braver that most of us. My prayers go with him and your family, and I sincerely hope the laws change to allow Stockton and others the medication they need.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Aug. 29, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    First, please allow me to express to PGVikingDad my sincerest sympathies on your family's plight. I hope things go better than you foresee.

    Second, I have a strong reluctance to approve Marijuana in traditional form for much of anything. The history has been that the gate opens and soon everyone "needs" it for everything and most of it with little evidence that there is a real benefit.

    Third, that said, I see no reason that plant extracts that are devoid of most of the THC could not be approved. Legislation could allow for no more than X parts per million of THC and sunset for review in 5 or 10 years to allow for an even lower threshold once the extraction process improves.

    It would seem there is a way to get this product to those who need it that would not open any significant gate to legalized Marijuana usage.

  • kargirl Sacramento, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    I can tell you this: If you have never had serious seizures, suffered their aftermath, lived with the challenges that go with them in just living your life, if you have watched your life go by not doing what others do because you never know when or if they will happen, please don't make this about "society". Make this about health. Even people whose seizures eventually are contolled lose much of what would have been a productive life if they are not controlled early enough, because in the world of education, experience, and career-building, time is everything. By giving children with this form, and any other form of epilepsy that this medication will help control, a chance to lead a normal life, it is giving them what those with the voices to decide already have--a life to call their own. Believe me, it is all anyone with epilepsy wants.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    Aug. 29, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    I am still trying to figure out this one. Since I am not a Pharmacist or MD, I don't know what the answer it.

    This family want to get a Marijuana based medication legalized in Utah.

    What I want to know is how does the Medical marijuana that they want differ from Marinol (synthetic cannibus), Nabilone, or Canasol which are already approved and legal by FDA standards?

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:56 a.m.

    I try hard, I really do, to understand why Marijuana is illegal. I admit to using it 30 years ago in high school, but I honestly haven't since then. But, especially medicinally it should be legalized, but I think if alcohol, tobacco and painkillers are legal, why not pot? I just had a neighbor get a DUI 2 months ago because she was stoned out of her head by her prescription meds. She didn't think it was wrong to abuse her meds because the were "prescribed". My point is, every drug or medicine will have it's abusers, however, for the most part, there are real people who need this medicine and it's insane to me that people can actually argue against it. This family using these drops will harm NO other person in this state, yet some people want to withhold out of lack of understanding. I hope this family can get the help they need. I read on KSL that some people have actually had to move to Oregon or Colorado to get the meds. That's tragic!

  • Gram Cracker Price, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Many drugs that are tried and fail are far more frighting than marijuana. I have a grandson with multiple health problems (Pervasive Developmental Disorder)and many of the drugs he has been put on "to see if this helps him" have made his symptoms worse, not better. I would be very thankful if marijuana could help him in his great struggles, and would welcome a trial of marijuana for him. I am certain this will never happen.

  • Nussdorfer AC Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    @Ett: It is certain pharmaceutical companies do not want cannibus used for treatment. It's cheap and a treatment center could grow it itself. That is a lot of lost revenue. Additionally many prescription medications have terrible, life-changing side-effects. marijuana seems to just relax people. What do you think is bad about the plant?

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    I also need to make a point for commentors such as "Ett": CBD treatment *works*, and nothing else does (CNN did an hour-long report just last week on how it saved another little girl with Dravet Syndrome named Charlotte.) And yes, I am very LDS, so no, I do not advocate for the broad legalization of all marijuana in all its forms. CBD is an oil that is added a few drops at a time to Stockton's food, and it contains almost zero THC, so it does not make the kids high. So, do the math again: CBD is a medicine that saves shildren from dying of epilepsy, it doesn't make anyone high and holds no appeal on the street, and it is being requested by a Mormon guy who has never had a drink or a smoke in his life, but it's still evil because...?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 7:20 a.m.

    500+ Utahans die each and every year from "legal" drugs.
    Not ONE has ever died from pot, which is "illegal" - and the only side-effect is having the munchies.

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 7:09 a.m.

    I am Stockton's dad, and I'd like to make a comment directly to Senator John Valentine: My son will die as a side-effect of his epilepsy, and so will all of his Utah friends. Until that tragic moment comes, he will suffer day and night. He was once a normal toddler, but his bones are now twisted, he walks only with great effort and through considerable pain, and his brain is broken. Fortunately, he has a friend named "John" who lives in a domed house in Salt Lake City who can end his pain and restore his life with the stroke of a pen. Senator Valentine, your concerns are valid: This would, indeed, be a "Gateway Bill"...a gateway to hope and relief for the suffering children of Utah.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 2:01 a.m.

    It should be legalized and controlled, like any other prescription drug. It is probably more safe than many of the pharmaceuticals that are prescribed today.

    And while they're at it, they should legalize the growing of industrial hemp. It too, does not contain enough THC to produce a "high". This plant is illegal to grow in the US but the US imports it from other countries because there is an industrial use for the plant. From a business journal on the web, "U.S. imports of hemp from Canada and China equal around $2 billion annually".

    It does not make sense that we do not allow farmers to grow it in the US to sell for industrial use, and allow it to be imported. Senator Paul from Kentucky is trying to pass legislation which would allow it to be farmed in his State. Utah's representatives should support this bill.

    In the Journal of Discourses, Brigham Young encouraged the growing of hemp in this area. I'll bet it makes a good substitute for hay for livestock feed. Probably much better for animals than the GMO corn they're fed.

    "Stupid is, as stupid does", F.Gump

  • Ett Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 12:34 a.m.

    I find it interesting that the only sites that recommend this treatment are all pro-Marijuana sites. This is usually the case in medical cases where Marijuana is the recommended treatment. The rationale is that any legitimately recognized medical site is "prejudiced" against Marijuana. The pro-Marijuana sites usually claim pot will fix everything from cancer to dandruff.
    The medical research community has approved drugs made from far more controversial sources than Marijuana. Byetta for treating Diabetes is one good example. It's a compound made from Gila monster venom. Are we really supposed to believe the pharmaceutical industry would willingly develop medicine from venom and be so prejudiced against a plant source? So far, the only drug approved that is made from Marijuana is eye drops for glaucoma. Hardly the panacea for bigger issues. Surely the fact Marijuana is a popular recreational drug has nothing to do with those extolling its benefits...

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:13 p.m.

    Why not? because of ignorance?

  • wakeuputah Provo, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:58 p.m.

    I understand that people need it for seizures. But if we are going their we should consider it for all people that suffer from debilitating diseases. I don't feel any of us should be able to tell another person that they cant use what works the best for them, there are a lot less side effects with Medical marijuana no one has ever died from marijuana unlike prescription pills you hear about abuse of opiates all the time not to mention death! Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN chief medical correspondent agrees and endorses it! There is a wide range of benefits, works better than antidepressants and is safer, stops seizures, helps with cancer rehabilitation,We all should seriously consider legalizing marijuana for MEDICAL USE. Its costing Utah too much money fighting it. Its not going away, prohibition doesn't work, it never has! We could be using this commodity to make money for our state. not wasting tax dollars fighting a losing battle. Wake up friends neighbours its a win, win, I feel we should consider it. Twenty other states plus Washington D.C. have already done it with more states looking into it.