Driver had twice the legal alcohol limit in fatal Orem accident

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  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    The deportation myth is part of this tragedy. Our president has instructed law officers not to enforce our immigration laws and deportation is a revolving door. Alcohol big money prevents stricter DUI limits and "Drink responsibly" really means the oxymoron "Become impaired responsibly." When someone is killed by a gun we blame the NRA. Who do we blame for DUI deaths?

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Re: "So I don't understand what his immigration status has to do with it?"

    I think you do, but here goes -- just as it would be unfair to require Mexico to deal with our DUI problem, it's unfair to require us to deal with theirs.

    If we had the secure borders we're paying politicians to provide us, this American victim would still be alive. That another may have been killed in Mexico is a distinct possibility -- drinkers like this perp are very dangerous people. But America would be safer.

    And, after all, isn't that what we expect our taxes to pay for?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 3:47 p.m.

    Twice the "legal" limit? Why should he care what the legal limit is? He's been here illegally at least 2 times. When are Utah politicians going to stop pretending they oppose illegal immigration & put some teeth into E- Verify? BTW D-News, how about reporting who this guy's employer is?

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    You probably cannot understand how a family might feel that their loved one would still be alive if government had done their job and enforced the immigration laws in the first place.
    Instead politicians, preachers and police chiefs line up to defend their "right" to be here illegally, even if that "right" leads to the deaths of innocents from time-to-time.

  • TandJ LaVerkin, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    Another aspect to the story. It gives me reason to advise my wife against sitting on the sidewalk at 1:30 am.

  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    So I don't understand what his immigration status has to do with it? Should white folks who drink and drive and kill someone get away with it? Because they 'belong here' you know, and they would never do anything like that...

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    I'm sure the reporter will be diligent and follow up regarding his entire deportation/immigration status. He will also delve into the circumstances regarding his rap sheep and the diligence of the police in giving ICE the opportunity to detain him before releasing him in the past.
    The Deseret News has the utmost integrity in such matters.

    Then again, this is amnesty season and this crime disrupts the narrative.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:51 a.m.

    Why wait until the very end of the story to mention his immigration status? Is there an agenda being followed by the paper?

  • Brother Benjamin Franklin Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 3:29 a.m.

    This is another reason we need stronger liquor and alcohol restriction laws in this state. Another reason the legal limit needs to be lowered or even eliminated entirely. Another reason to give law enforcement more tools to go after people who drive drunks and to punish those caught to the fullest extent. Another reason to provide more support to those in addiction recovery programs to fix their difficulties.

    This is a tragedy that will change more than merely the lives of this woman, her husband, the family, and the drunk driver. It will change friends, neighbors, the community, and people who struggle with drinking or know someone who does.

    What will it take to get those who clamor for loosening alcohol restrictions in this state to wake up and realize that nothing good comes from alcohol? That when you drink, you put yourself in danger of making stupid decisions like this? That you hurt more than just yourself?

    I will fight yet harder for stronger liquor and DUI laws in this state because of this story. We must not let this death be in vain.

  • I know it. I Live it. I Love it. Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    "It's baffling to me that somebody who has been drinking will even risk it and jump behind the wheel."

    It isn't baffling at all. The same reason it isn't baffling is the same reason I don't hate the guy who did it. It's doubtful he intended to kill someone. Without intent, the alcohol ought to be treated like an accomplice, and is therefore as guilty if not more than he is. I'm not saying he shouldn't face consequences, he should as he made the choice to drink and not to prepare. But I am saying that alcohol is as much to blame here.

    Some would compare that to blaming guns or bullets for people pulling the trigger. The difference here is that the gun essentially helps you pull it whether you would have or not. So yes, I'll keep on blaming alcohol all I want.

  • VickieB SLC, UT
    Aug. 26, 2013 7:42 p.m.

    If he was deported, then arrested in May, why wasn't he deported then? And why did Utah give him a drivers privlege card knowing he had been deported? I think some questions need to be answered.

    Married for four months, my heart goes out to her husband. What a horribile night.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Aug. 26, 2013 5:30 p.m.


    Yeah lets make drinking and driving illegal, that should make it so nobody does it... Oh wait, it alerady is illegal. Good one.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Aug. 26, 2013 5:16 p.m.

    If it only saves one life....

    Just the latest in a long list of lives of honest citizens which have been ended because we refuse to enforce our borders and immigration laws.

    From the story, neatly burying the lede in the final two paragraphs:
    "Hernandez allegedly told police he was deported to Mexico in 2008 after being arrested for DUI in 2008 by Pleasant Grove police.

    In May, Hernandez was cited for driving without a valid license, according to Utah state court records."

    May the young lady rest in peace, and her family heal the sorrow from their loss.

    May the rest of us quit ignoring the very real fact that chronic failure to enforce our immigration laws is killing people, and demand that this be changed immediately!

  • Wonderpus Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 26, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    @ wer: What he did was illegal under current law. He was twice the legal limit and punishment for a D.U.I is severe... even so, this poor girl was killed. Sad story, easily avoided... don't drink and drive, it's up to the individual.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 26, 2013 4:47 p.m.

    Another example of why Utah needs stronger liquor laws.