John Hoffmire: Fighting air pollution one electric car at a time

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  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Aug. 30, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    Yes yes, lets all get excited about these cars that run on coal!!!

  • LDS Tree-Hugger Farmington, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    Electric cars ARE the answer.

    It's the technology of batteries than remains the final hurtle.
    We are almost there...

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:10 a.m.


    Miracles DO happen (but as you can see with this one, no need for god to make it occur).

    I wish electric cars were the answer. Unfortunately, their production just moves the environmental damage from one column in the ledger to another.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 28, 2013 5:23 a.m.

    I hear this argument about "but what about having to create all that electricity, that pollutes too..". Very true. But we have an option. We can either try to clean up pollution spewing from several million sources, or we can try to manage pollution create from a few sources. Its an economies of scale issue.

    It is far easier and cheaper to put scrubbers on a coal plant, than it is to cut the emissions of 100,000 utah cars. The problem just isn't that hard. It is also far cheaper to install the scrubbers that to add that expense to each and every car out there.

    The problem with the "conservative" movement is they are frozen in time. Any change, even those changes that would propel the US into the lead in emerging technologies and provide millions of jobs... is considered bad change. If we were to listen to them, computers would be too environmentally unfriendly when compared to typewriters. You can either put blinders on - wish for the good old days of leaded gas - or look to things like the Tesla and see what the future can bring.

  • LDS Tree-Hugger Farmington, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    Typical conservatives...

    No need to change,
    No need for progress...

    The world just can't be dirty enough for them.


  • CPA Howard Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    Another great invention of the environmentalist are fluorescent lamp which is a very low pressure mercury-vapor gas-discharge lamp. Mercury poisoning can be caused from improper use or disposal of mercury and mercury-containing objects, for example, after spills of elemental mercury or improper disposal of fluorescent lamps. We've been told by the well meaning environmentalist that any exposure is dangerous; however, for the good of the environment we need to replace all of our light bulbs with these potentially dangerous bulbs.

    I guess the end justifies the means.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    Other posters have stated the obvious. Electric cars just switch the place where polution happens. Electric cars just increase the use of hazardous materials. Electric care don't solve the problem; they increase problems.

    Those who claim that better air quality in Salt Lake is reason enough to increase polution at the coal-fired plant where that electricity is generated make me wonder why they think that increasing polution somewhere else is solving a problem. Would they welcome a coal-fired electricty plant in their neigborhood? Would they "cheer" the building of that plant, knowing that even more electric cars with hazardous batteries could be driven in their neighborhood?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Got to love the American exceptionalism in the defeatist statements above, oil and coal are the only acceptable forms of energy, and when they are gone it will be someone else's problem.
    Republican solution to everything is to ignore the challenges we face, someone else in the future will fix it.
    Except Nation Building we can preemptively start wars but we can't preemptively do anything for the future generations of Americans.

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    Electric Bike?

  • Sensible Scientist Rexburg, ID
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Electric vehicles are NOT the answer. The non-renewable raw materials for batteries come from open-pit mines that are worked by diesel-powered machinery. The electricity in your home used to recharge the batteries comes from coal-fired power plants, increasing the burning of coal. It's not unreasonable to say that electric vehicles are coal-powered. They certainly increase open-pit mining.

    Until the U.S. increases the use of nuclear power and batteries can be made from something that doesn't come from an open-pit mine, electric cars will have very limited environmental impact.

  • CPA Howard Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    Where will all this lead, California Pollution Regulations. Be very careful, do you really know where your politicians are leading you. In LA and Orange County they are taking away the fire rings at the beaches. Air Quality issues are addressed by the UNELECTED CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD (CARB) who answer to no one. This all started with well meaning politicians wanting to reduce pollution, which they have; however, they continue to regulate beyond what is now needed to control pollution.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    Will wonders never cease? I agree with you!

    the damage done producing the current generation of electric vehicles, especially in low-wage, no concern for the environment countries like china is horrendous.

    Nor does Mr. Hoffmire address the pollution created generating the electricy used to power those vehicles, the vast majority of which comes from fossil fuels like coal and natural gas.

    if you want to convince us to use these things, address the issues still to be tackled and how we are going to tackle them, not just the baby steps we have taken so far.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    Do a google search of the land around the factories where the batteries for these cars are produced (in China). It'll scare the beejebus out of you.

    We need clean energies, including autos, but we have to do better; much better.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:31 a.m.

    Electric cars? Ok! But where will we get all the electricity? Coal is out and so is nuclear and natural gas (too polluting). What's left? Wind and solar? Still very expensive and can we really cover the planet with wind mills and solar panels? And what do we do when the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining as in night time or cloudy conditions? And what do we do with all the pollution mining the lithium, nickel, lead or other metals used in batteries? How do we dispose of the toxic by products of refining the metals that go into batteries? The truth is "green" energy isn't so green after all is it?

  • Ett Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 12:37 a.m.

    So far, all this green technology has led to billions of tax dollars down the drain. An electric car that only goes 50 to 80 miles before charging (and that's optimistic)means the driver will go to work and have to charge his Ray-O-Vac roadster just to get home again. The load this will place on the power grid will be enormous. If you live in California, you're out of luck as many commuters drive farther than this and with gridlock, sit in traffic so long, their E-car will likely die.