Yes yes, lets all get excited about these cars that run on coal!!!
Electric cars ARE the answer.It's the technology of batteries
than remains the final hurtle.We are almost there...
@Lost; Miracles DO happen (but as you can see with this one, no need
for god to make it occur).I wish electric cars were the answer.
Unfortunately, their production just moves the environmental damage from one
column in the ledger to another.
I hear this argument about "but what about having to create all that
electricity, that pollutes too..". Very true. But we have an option.
We can either try to clean up pollution spewing from several million sources, or
we can try to manage pollution create from a few sources. Its an economies of
scale issue.It is far easier and cheaper to put scrubbers on a coal
plant, than it is to cut the emissions of 100,000 utah cars. The problem just
isn't that hard. It is also far cheaper to install the scrubbers that to
add that expense to each and every car out there. The problem with
the "conservative" movement is they are frozen in time. Any change,
even those changes that would propel the US into the lead in emerging
technologies and provide millions of jobs... is considered bad change. If we
were to listen to them, computers would be too environmentally unfriendly when
compared to typewriters. You can either put blinders on - wish for the good old
days of leaded gas - or look to things like the Tesla and see what the future
Typical conservatives...No need to change, No need for
progress...The world just can't be dirty enough for them.Hrumpf!
Another great invention of the environmentalist are fluorescent lamp which is a
very low pressure mercury-vapor gas-discharge lamp. Mercury poisoning can be
caused from improper use or disposal of mercury and mercury-containing objects,
for example, after spills of elemental mercury or improper disposal of
fluorescent lamps. We've been told by the well meaning environmentalist
that any exposure is dangerous; however, for the good of the environment we need
to replace all of our light bulbs with these potentially dangerous bulbs.I guess the end justifies the means.
Other posters have stated the obvious. Electric cars just switch the place
where polution happens. Electric cars just increase the use of hazardous
materials. Electric care don't solve the problem; they increase problems.
Those who claim that better air quality in Salt Lake is reason
enough to increase polution at the coal-fired plant where that electricity is
generated make me wonder why they think that increasing polution somewhere else
is solving a problem. Would they welcome a coal-fired electricty plant in their
neigborhood? Would they "cheer" the building of that plant, knowing
that even more electric cars with hazardous batteries could be driven in their
Got to love the American exceptionalism in the defeatist statements above, oil
and coal are the only acceptable forms of energy, and when they are gone it will
be someone else's problem. Republican solution to everything is to
ignore the challenges we face, someone else in the future will fix it.Except Nation Building we can preemptively start wars but we can't
preemptively do anything for the future generations of Americans.
Electric vehicles are NOT the answer. The non-renewable raw materials for
batteries come from open-pit mines that are worked by diesel-powered machinery.
The electricity in your home used to recharge the batteries comes from
coal-fired power plants, increasing the burning of coal. It's not
unreasonable to say that electric vehicles are coal-powered. They certainly
increase open-pit mining.Until the U.S. increases the use of nuclear
power and batteries can be made from something that doesn't come from an
open-pit mine, electric cars will have very limited environmental impact.
Where will all this lead, California Pollution Regulations. Be very careful, do
you really know where your politicians are leading you. In LA and Orange County
they are taking away the fire rings at the beaches. Air Quality issues are
addressed by the UNELECTED CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD (CARB) who answer to
no one. This all started with well meaning politicians wanting to reduce
pollution, which they have; however, they continue to regulate beyond what is
now needed to control pollution.
RanchHand,Will wonders never cease? I agree with you!the
damage done producing the current generation of electric vehicles, especially in
low-wage, no concern for the environment countries like china is horrendous.Nor does Mr. Hoffmire address the pollution created generating the
electricy used to power those vehicles, the vast majority of which comes from
fossil fuels like coal and natural gas.if you want to convince us to
use these things, address the issues still to be tackled and how we are going to
tackle them, not just the baby steps we have taken so far.
Do a google search of the land around the factories where the batteries for
these cars are produced (in China). It'll scare the beejebus out of
you.We need clean energies, including autos, but we have to do
better; much better.
Electric cars? Ok! But where will we get all the electricity? Coal is out and so
is nuclear and natural gas (too polluting). What's left? Wind and solar?
Still very expensive and can we really cover the planet with wind mills and
solar panels? And what do we do when the wind isn't blowing or the sun
isn't shining as in night time or cloudy conditions? And what do we do
with all the pollution mining the lithium, nickel, lead or other metals used in
batteries? How do we dispose of the toxic by products of refining the metals
that go into batteries? The truth is "green" energy isn't so green
after all is it?
So far, all this green technology has led to billions of tax dollars down the
drain. An electric car that only goes 50 to 80 miles before charging (and
that's optimistic)means the driver will go to work and have to charge his
Ray-O-Vac roadster just to get home again. The load this will place on the power
grid will be enormous. If you live in California, you're out of luck as
many commuters drive farther than this and with gridlock, sit in traffic so
long, their E-car will likely die.