BYU football: Tight end position undergoes overhaul in Robert Anae's new offensive system

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  • Don't Feed the Trolls Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2013 4:00 a.m.

    Chris, the Utes will NOT beat USU.

    Mark it down.

  • hamaca Baton Rouge, LA
    Aug. 20, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Interesting concept with Andrew George coaching inside receivers as opposed to traditional tight ends. Will be interesting to see how this translates into game performance.

    Btw, Chris is not a troll--he actually engages. Who will be the most disappointed if he leaves for a year? The DN. His comments probably double or triple the number of overall comments. He's simply carrying on the tradition of friendly banter between rivals--it happens most everywhere.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 20, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Agreed. Also about creating mismatches. As our red brethren are wont to remind us, teams like Wisconsin, Texas and Notre Dame are likely to have superior athletes, so one point of attack is to isolate mismatches and on-on-one coverage (where superior athleticism MAY be counterbalanced with foreknowledge of the play and precision in execution).

    Add in a fast and hard offensive pace, and the theory is excellent. Looking forward to the practical exam!

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 10:57 p.m.

    Stats for the TE has been very poor since Andrew George graduated. The Y has had a stable full of 4 star recruits but none has emerged to show anything like George, Pitta, Harling, or Coats. I hope the position can return to those years. The Y's offense is always at it's best when they go to the tight end. They got away from that for the last four years.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 6:19 p.m.

    Out of all the positions BYU has TE is the one that should NOT be overhauled.

    BYU. What is wrong with you?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 19, 2013 5:44 p.m.

    Per Y Grad/Y Dad:

    "Let's; we could meet in Connell."

    Maybe get us tickets to a Zags game and I'll make the trip to Spokane?

    Hmmm, that's a tough venue. How about we meet in Pullman the next time the Utes come to town. I might even could round up a red shirt, but I don't know the words to your fight song...

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 19, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    Per Y Grad/Y Dad:

    After the season, though, let's get together and compare tight ends. And records. And bowl games.

    And head to head, because this is the year.
    Let's; we could meet in Connel.


    We all need some new material, everyone continues to beat a dead horse over, and over, and over....

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 19, 2013 5:03 p.m.


    Thanks for the info, thought the kid was a pretty dang good TE. I know he was highly rated coming out of HS. I hope to see him on the field, I grew up with his Dad.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 4:29 p.m.

    Hmmmm! I thought this article was about tight ends at BYU. Only small minds get distracted and continually attack a positive BYU article. If that fits you, go to your own blogs, PLEASE!!

    I am very excited about the BYU offense and can't wait until kickoff against Virginia.

    I love the Y!

    Go Cougars!

  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    Aug. 19, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    Please stop even acknowledging certain BYU haters. They are not worth your time, or effort. Like a gnat, they keep coming back to annoy you. One of them is 90% of the time the first to post on BYU articles. If you keep talking to them, they will keep coming back.

    We welcome those Ute fans who are courteous and not Anti-LDS, hence Anti-BYU. Most of the fans of one school or the other realize that if one school does good, the other one benefits. We can root for BYU, UofU, and USU, the whole year except on rivalry game.

    Like the signs at the Zoo state, don't feed the animals.

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Aug. 19, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    Two questions:

    1) ChrisB, if your team is so great, and your school has moved on, why are you so obsessed with commenting on BYU articles? Especially a relatively boring one about tight ends?

    2) Why do the rest of us even care what ChrisB has to say?

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 19, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    Looking forward to the discipline Anae will bring to an offense. I hope teams start talking like they did last time he was at the Y, "We know we can't stop them, we just hope to slow them down."

    Go Cougars!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    @ ekute:

    Nobody is dancing around anything. It just so happens that Chris's question has nothing whatsoever to do with this article (quite typical of his and other Ute troll comments) and is basically irrelevant to anything. Really... what difference do stats degree of difficulty make in almost any loss... regardless of conference affiliation?

    BYU outplayed and had better offensive yardage stats than Utah did in their game last year, but still lost. So really... what difference do the game stats degree of difficulty in any loss make?? They don't. A loss is a loss, regardless of the stats.
    Only a few fatuous commenters could possibly tie in a "lol" to something so irrelevant. But somehow, you did it... again!

    And in case you forgot, Utah had more loss stats than win stats last season.

    The really hard to answer question you and Chris B should really be concerned about is: "How are we and our fellow Ute tolls going to handle the humiliation of the outcome of the big game on September 21st... especially after all the silly comments and LOL's we keep posting on BYU articles?"

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    U haven't played a PAC schedule yet. U've played a bottom half of the PAC schedule your first two years.

    After the season, though, let's get together and compare tight ends. And records. And bowl games.

    And head to head, because this is the year.

    Been a lot of Ute comments about bad Karma on the Max Hall article, then a lot of cheezy laughs at the expense of an injured player on the kicking article. So I'll go out on a limb and predict...

    another last play of the game victory, since they mostly turn out that way. In favor of BYU, since we're due. And on the back of a place kick, since if anyone should know about bad Karma, it's Utah.

  • YBALL Provo, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    @Spokane Ute

    He's playing D End now

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    @Spokane Ute

    I believe Austin Holt has moved to defensive end.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Answer Chris's question...You're dancing around it...As

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    Very excited to watch the "inside receivers" this year. Hoffman's stats could be down this year, not because he's less effective, but because of increase production by his other bookend and the inside receivers.

  • basman West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    Chris B.

    So it's the overpowering PAC 10.2 schedule that renders Murphy's stats down to the lowly level of Kriel? Or is it Kriel playing against patsies that elevates his stats to that all-world Murphy level?

    Bronco Mendenhall has more wins (12) versus current PAC 10.2 schools than than Kyle Whittingham does in his two years in the conference (11).

    Overall, Bronco Mendenhall is 12-10 against current PAC 10.2 schools. Kyle Whittingham is 11-14. And Bronco didn't have the luxury of playing Colorado twice!

    Come on Chris, it's football - blocking, throwing and catching. Murphy's stats do not convince anyone he's the best tight end in the state other than ute fans no matter who he's playing. So if you really want to play that game, throw out the nearly 20% of Murphy's season receptions that came against Northern Colorado.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    Just want to remind you of your promise not to post on anymore BYU sports articles for a year after the Utes lose to BYU on September 21st. Have your fun with silly comments for a few more weeks, but after that, please be a man of your word. After the game, you will realize it doesn't matter who has the best tight end in the state... only who has the best team. And that fact will become painfully obvious to some select Ute trolls... yourself included.

    And by the way, the answer to your quiz is "it doesn't matter." A loss is a loss, whether it's to a WAC or a PAC team. And since the U has been accumulating more losses than wins during this past year (the Utes being only division 1 college in the state who currently qualifies), it's a subject you are probably getting pretty good at.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    Anyone know the status of Austin Holt? I noticed he wasn't even mentioned in the article.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    " Kaneakua Friel (6-5, 261) and Devin Mahina (6-6, 247) "

    Will be fun watching anyone in the pac10.plusCU try to defend the above.

  • No U Won't Reality, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Chris B - Tough to tell since U only had 3 non conference games last year. If you throw out the D2 school then Jake averaged 1 reception and 4 yards per game with no TDs. Against the mighty Pac he averaged 2.8 receptions and 29 yards per game. Obviously it is more difficult to accumulate stats against PAC 12 than WAC opponents.

  • Funny/witty screen name Orem, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    Chris B

    The answer is... WAC because utah beat more pac teams than wac last year, sorry to burst your bubble.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:57 p.m.

    I'm glad Andrew George is the positions coach for these guys. He can teach them the moves necessary to avoid Ute tacklers and score winning TDs.

  • Down under Eugene, OR
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    Chris B,
    Can't answer that question since the Utes have not racked up many stats worth counting or worthwhile. What really matters is the W's and L's. Utah is still in the basement in that category.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:49 p.m.


    Here's a quiz.

    Is it more difficult to accumulate stats against WAC opponents or Pac 12 opponents?

  • basman West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    Ok, Chris here's a quiz:

    Based on the following stats who is the best?

    30 catches, 308 yards, 5 TDs or
    33 catches, 349 yards, 4 TDs

    And which one is which?

    Not a huge difference, and most reasonable fans would conclude they aren't even distinguishable from each other. So how do you conclude that Murphy is the best? Because Whit takes him to the PAC 10.2 media day? Just because the utes finally started throwing the ball to the tight end after not using the position as a receiver for YEARS doesn't qualify Murphy as the best in the state. Statistically, as seen above, they were both pretty pedestrian and indistinguishable from each other, although Friel had more TDs and since scoring more points than your opponent is the object of the game, one could argue that he's the best. Heck, Daniel Coats had comparable stats as a freshman at BYU as Murphy had last year.

  • Spider Rico Greeley, CO
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:38 p.m.

    Have to call you out on this one - that's just too funny. USU, really?

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    Chris B
    I truly believe the tide has turned and BYU will rise again and start their own streak against TUN!!! Looking forward to Sept.21!!! Good luck to Utah in their quest for a winning season in the PAC12!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!
    Go Aggies!!!

    BYU 35
    Utah 10

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 11:58 a.m.

    And the best tight end in the state?

    Jake Murphy

    Just another example of traditional byu families that have made the permanent upgrade to red. Chase Hansen, Harrison Handley, Zach Lindsay

    Must be tough for byu fans to know their time for football dominance is well over and done. And Utah State will make a tough case for #2 in the state in the years to come.