Tip for living: 12-step book designed for the natural man in each of us

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  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    Nobody is perfect. I'm nobody. Bill W. wanted to remain anomalous. The 12 steps of AA Is used in a lot of organizations. It's like we are kids and religion doesn't mater and the only thing that does is we are of the same spirit of things. I'm nobody and your nobody we're together on an understanding. Good manners is all we need.

  • william e. kettley SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    I remember a brother offering a prayer in which he said, "and bless us all with patience with those who sin differently than we." Quite a thought. Think about it. . . All sin, and come short of the glory of God. Earth is a telestial place, and we err from time to time here with the help of Satan and his followers. We have the inability to completely stay free from every sin while here because of where we are now, but as another said, we should learn from our experiences, and "not trip on the same challenge more than once." We learn to avoid repeats if we try. . . .

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Aug. 15, 2013 6:43 a.m.

    “Rather, only when a person fully relies on Christ and his Atonement can the Lord change a person’s nature to mirror his own.”

    Nice article and no doubt a book that will help many. Only one problem I had with it… the word “only.” Why is that word needed in the above quote? Not only is it wrong, it makes Christians look both ignorant and arrogant.

    Other religions have been transforming people for centuries, some doing a far better job and on a much larger scale than anything we see in the west (have you seen any Tibetan Buddhist suicide bombers lately, despite decades of oppression and abuse?).

    And is there any chance Gandhi, a Hindu, could have become the moral leader of his country and led it to independence through non-violent resistance had he not experienced a spiritual transformation so deep that he became arguably the most Christ-like figure of the 20th century? Doubtful…

    Argue for the excellence of your tradition, certainly. But arguing for the superiority or even that it is the “only” path to transformation, makes you look anything but spiritual let alone transformed.