Dick Harmon: BYU's offense remains under intense scrutiny in fall camp

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  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 7:42 p.m.

    BYU just landed a WR that Oregon coveted...does this demote Kurtz to a 2-star now? Lol

  • Proud Ute ,
    Aug. 11, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    Sounds like more excuses being prepared to explain more offense problems.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 11, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    Even though you're obsessed with stars you should still ground your comments in reality.

    FACT: BYU has far more three and four-star recruits on the offensive two-deep than two-star recruits.
    FACT: BYU's 2014 class is ranked higher than Utah's
    FACT: BYU somehow manages to consistently rank in the top 25, despite having lesser (star) recruits than the other ranked teams
    FACT: Utah hasn't beaten a BCS team with a winning record since recording their two best recruiting classes of all time.

    It's great to be a 2-star Cougar fan!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    As always obsessed with stars...work ethic and execution will always take a player further than stars...just ask Ross Apo. But from what I saw there is plenty of speed and athleticism on offense at BYU this yr, I don't need some publication's star rating to tell me. If u don't think so, oh well.

    Well said. In the end it's all about fun and memories. I took my boys with me to the stadium today, like my dad used to take me. It's those memories and the joy of the game that matter. When the final whistle blows it doesn't change your life or mine. Cheers.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    Had I been stranded in some third world prison with no Internet for the past year, then suddenly given access to the Web, I would know it's August by the posts on this page. There are those that rival Pollyanna in their optimism, and some from Carolina that put forth a valiant effort to suppress their excitement with a heavy dose of statistics (as though the scoring average of a year ago under a different coaching team and different QB determines the future).

    I'm just a little concerned for those fans whose self-identity and level of happiness is intrinsically tied up with how well a sports team plays. We as fans have absolutely no control over that. Unless you have Fortune 400 type wealth, even your donations are only a drop in the bucket. I've followed the Cougars since the late 50s, through good times and bad times. My father got so discouraged with the almost-successes that he tuned out - and therefore missed out on a national championship and a Heisman Trophy season.

    Sports are meant to enjoy, not control one's life.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2013 3:11 p.m.


    "Easily Oregon pace"

    BUT, w/2-Star talent.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Just got back from seeing the Cougs in pads and scrimmaging and drilling at LES. There are some minor issues getting the O-line up to snuff but they looked good. Taysom still needs to polish timing and accuracy especially on the deep out routes, but his arm looks good. The offense is break neck pace. To those ute trolls worried about celebrations after every play, u don't need to worry...there never any time for the fans to finish cheering let alone the players. Easily Oregon pace, between 11-12 seconds between snaps. Defense looks good, seems to be very little drop off from last yr. Daniel and Leavitt looked good at the BCB, and Fua, Unga, Pikula, and Beck looked good at the LB spots. I came away pretty encouraged, but there just needs to be some polish in the passing game & the Oline in the coming weeks. GO COUGS!

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    @Carolina Coug

    You should add three more wins to that total-all home games. BYU is not going to let the Utah game slip by this year. Texas and Boise State slipped away on their home turf just as Utah did last year. All three contests are on home soil.

    BYU likely loses to Wisconsin and/or Notre Dame. Those are away games. BYU takes all its home games this year.

  • carolinacoug Durham, NC
    Aug. 10, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    Here's where I'm predicting the 7 wins will come from (2 BCS wins, 5 non-BCS wins):

    BCS Wins:
    August 31 - Virginia
    October 12 - Georgia Tech

    Non-BCS Wins:
    September 27 - Middle Tennessee
    October 4 - Utah State
    October 19 - Houston
    November 16 - Idaho State
    November 30 - Nevada

    The Utah State game and the Nevada game are iffy, as they are road games.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    steven s jarvis--

    "BYU has made the best schedule possible for success with breaks inbetween the bigger games which hopefully will keep the troops healthier."

    Does anything else need to be said?

  • carolinacoug Durham, NC
    Aug. 10, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    During Bronco's tenure, BYU averages 23.73 points/game and allows 23.92 points/game against BCS opponents. BYU averages 34.52 points/game and allows 18.88 points/game against non-BCS opponents. Using weighted averages, BYU is predicted to score 29.13 points/game and allow 21.40 points/game in 2013. Last season, BYU averaged 28.69 points/game and allowed 14 points/game. Thus, the 2013 offense is predicted to be marginally better than last season (29.13 vs. 28.69 point/game), while the defense will be about a touchdown worse than last season (21.40 vs. 14 points/game).

  • carolinacoug Durham, NC
    Aug. 10, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Let's not get ahead of ourselves. BYU plays 6 BCS opponents and 6 non-BCS opponents this year. During Bronco's tenure, BYU's record against BCS opponents is 12-14. BYU's record against non-BCS opponents is 62-15. Applying these BCS/non-BCS winning percentages to this year's schedule, BYU is predicted to win 2.77 games against BCS opponents and 4.83 games against non-BCS opponents for a total of 7.6 wins. I'm going to round down to 7, given the prior year's disappointments, for a predicted regulator season record of 7-5.

    Aug. 10, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    At this time of year every team looks good and most players are healthy and not banged up. Optimism abounds and I don't mind falling for it every year, it is always good to have hope and dreams. Sometimes those dreams get fulfilled, but even if they're not, I hope I never stop stop dreaming! Here's to the new football season, go Cougs!

  • Stop The Nonsense El Paso, TX
    Aug. 10, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    Man, I really don't want to buy too much into the hype this year after the last few disappointing years, but with 3 weeks to go until the season opener I am devouring these BYU football articles. Go Cougs!

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Its hard to move the ball against BYU's defense. It may be even harder for opponents to slow down our boys on offense. The kickers are hitting and everything seems to be ready for the season to start.

    I am extremely excited about this year. BYU has made the best schedule possible for success with breaks inbetween the bigger games which hopefully will keep the troops healthier. Play fast and hard on both sides of the ball, avoid turn overs and score consistently. Do these things and the Cougars will be ranked, win 10 or more games this season and have one of the best years they have had in a long time.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Aug. 10, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    Three weeks boys, three weeks. There is a lot still to do. Hope the offensive line really comes together and rotations are set soon.

    Its good for the defense to face up-tempo because I understand Virginia and Texas both are going to play up-tempo offenses as well.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Yea, if there is anything that BYU needs it is more celebrating after every play. It's OK to be pleased with your performance but a celebration after every catch, punt or tackle? Please just play the football game! If you are good it will be recognized.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 8:20 a.m.

    I take this positive talk with a grain of salt. We have seen the BYU marketing machine in action pre-season for too many years now to get too excited at this point. Though Harmon isn't "officially" part of the BYU marketing machine, he still offers up plenty of pre-season good news each year. Then as the season starts fans end up disappointed.

    So I'll watch the team on game day and not get up too much with these articles.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 10, 2013 7:17 a.m.

    We have needed some of that swagger for a long time. Like when we had leads on the road at Texas two years ago and Notre Dame last year. Those games it felt like our offense didn't know what to do with itself so it pulled its head back into its shell...

    Obviously a lot remains to be seen-like doing it in a real practice, doing it in a game, and (heaven forbid) doing it in the Holy War, but at least things are moving in the right direction. If this year continues the string of disappointing offensive production, it could be a loooong year.

    Go cougars!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 9, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    Striker, agreed. It's only a start, but it's a real good start.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Aug. 9, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    Bombs being thrown and converted, some for TDs, is a great sign this offense will turn around. This team is pushing really hard, and it's needs to step up a notch for a better schedule. I'm thrilled how the team is doing, especially the offense. An improved offense will make the defense that much better. This is starting to get exciting now! I'm still cautiously optimistic, but things are good now.