Ezekiel Ansah listed as starter on Detroit Lions' first depth chart of fall camp

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  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    Aug. 8, 2013 1:36 a.m.

    Chris B is my hero! The trolling troll just hooked this entire thread, hook, line and sinker.

    I was interested to see the comparison to Javon Kearse. Ansah is freaky fast with the size and strength Kearse lacked. Detroit should have the best d-line in the league this year. There just aren't enough bodies to double team their front four.

    Ansah playing in the NFL is just one of those great things that happens to good people. For BYU fans to claim that he is in the NFL because he went to BYU is a joke. He is in the NFL because he is the most gifted defensive lineman to enter the draft since Ndamakin Suh. Just like Christian Akoye a generation ago, the novelty of having such an incredible athlete with such raw talent who is a relative newcomer to the game is a lot of exciting.

    Aug. 7, 2013 7:50 p.m.

    Glad to see Ziggy continue to progress and wish him the best in the NFL.

    Since the DN didn't mention this, Star is also listed as the starter for the Carolina Panthers. Congrats to him as well.

    Finally in reply to Just the Fax:
    "There are more 2- and 3-star players playing in the NFL than 4- and 5-star athletes, and that's a fact."
    You may be right only because of the sheer number of players in the NFL but I question the accuracy of your comment. If this is a fact, how about a source to verify the comment? Every article I have ever read indicates the chances of making it to the pro level directly correlates with the star rating system. In other words, a higher percentage of 5 star recruits make it to the NFL than 4 star recruits. A higher percentage of 4 star recruits make it to the NFL than 3 star recruits and so on. Sure there are lots of examples of 2 and 3 star success stories but overall the ranking system does have a lot of validity.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Aug. 7, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Sounds like Ziggy is off to a great start. Hope he has much success.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    It would be interesting to read your follow-up excuses for the way the star system works or is supposed to work after the event that happens on September 21st when yet another PAC10.2 team gets thumped. But since you've promised not to post on any more BYU articles after that date for a year, based on the outcome that is all but a given at this point, I guess it's something we're going to have to forego. But until then, just know that your comments continue to be LOL (lots of laughs)!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 7, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    Somebody help Chris out please. I think it's time for an intervention...

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    Whatever language the word "Wookie" comes from, I'm sure it translates to "classy." I'd love to see more fans on both sides be like Wookie.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Aug. 7, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    Chris, I don't get your comment at all. It appears that you are trying to make a point that the average player in the NFL has a star rating of 3.53 but then you point out that Ziggy has a 0 star rating? What does this have to do with Ziggy's success or abilities? Obviously he wasn't even on the radar of these so called authorities for the success in the NFL. Granted, the star system is getting more and more accurate, it still is not completely accurate as we have seen as Utah fans for years.

    Needless to say, why muddy up the waters on an article celebrating the success of a kid from Africa that is making a name for himself?

    Go UTES!!

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    Happy for Ziggy and hope he has a productive career... note that Star Lotulelei was also listed as a starter on the Panthers depth chart, maybe the article should have covered both.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    "BYU and Ziggy Ansah, still living in your head..."Rent Free".... 24-7. Fantastic!"

    What a dump they must be living in. They can do way better than that.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    Ziggy was never evaluated by any "Star" system, so calling him "0 Stars" is both true and inaccurate. I think it is also fair to speculate that someone with his size and speed, who scored as well as he did at the combine, would be have been "5 Star" recruit had he played high school football -- but he didn't play, wasn't evaluated, and came to BYU BECUASE he is a "choir boy."

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:23 a.m.


    There are more 2- and 3-star players playing in the NFL than 4- and 5-star athletes, and that's a fact.

    Three of the greatest players in the history of the NFL, Brett Farve (So Miss), Jerry Rice (Miss Valley St), and Walter Payton (Jackson St), were lightly recruited or not recruited at all, and didn't play in power conferences or, in some cases, didn't even play D-1 football.

    I wonder how many stars they would have received.

    The truth is, the ratings services completely whiff on far more player ratings than they actually get right. Even amongst 5-star players, there are plenty of busts.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    "And I thought 2 star choir boys were just as good as 3 ad 4 stars?

    That's what byu fans tell us."

    So you admit that zero star Ziggy got drafted before ALL but 4 of those first round draftees, and still imply that it's impossible to for 2-star athletes to be just as good as 3- and 4-star athletes. Something's wrong with this picture...

    Note: this 0-star athlete was better than anyone on Utah's roster.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    In my entire life I've never read a quality thread comment that ended in LOL...

    As the history of the Heisman trophy, All-American lists, All-State list tells us, there is not 100% correlation between performance at one level of competition and performance at the next level. That's why they NFL has combines: They know there is a (not 100% either) correlation between size and ability and performance at the next level.

    I hope that wasn't to complicated for the biased mind to understand.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 10:29 a.m.


    BYU and Ziggy Ansah, still living in your head..."Rent Free".... 24-7.

    Weddle and Kruger?...2 stars.
    Kaepernick and Flacco....3 stars.
    Pitta...no stars.

    Where are they....and where are you?

    Your attempt at Universal Statements, fail the rule of exceptions, every time.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 10:04 a.m.


    Ziggy is indeed a remarkable rare story.

    Care to know the average stars of the NFL first round picks(including a 0 star ziggy)?


    So I guess there is something to those ratings after all.

    And I thought 2 star choir boys were just as good as 3 ad 4 stars?

    That's what byu fans tell us.


  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 7:50 a.m.

    How is this possible? He wasn't a 4 or 5 star recruit with 5 offers from BCS colleges.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 7, 2013 6:34 a.m.

    Way to go Ziggy! It sounds like he is surrounded by folks who are willing to work with him and are impressed by his upside. He is for sure tough enough to play, after all he was coached by Bronco.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    "The former BYU standout, taken by Detroit with the No. 5 pick in this year's NFL draft, is the lone rookie listed as a starter on the Lions' depth chart."


    This guy just continues to impress. Sure, his start as a rookie is helped by the fact that Idonije isn't 100%. But, it's still very unusual and one more indication that, raw and inexperienced as he is, he's the real deal.

    Can't wait to see him in action. I hope I can find someone with TV coverage of Friday's game. :o/

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 6, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    Great to hear Ziggy's progressing well in Detroit. Hope he becomes wildly successful and make a huge impact in that organization's future. Looking forward to watching him in action.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Aug. 6, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    Couldn't be prouder of Ziggy; from BYU walk-on to NFL starter, all because of his extraordinary athletic talents and determination, and BYU's willingness to give him a chance to develop those extraordinary talents at his own pace.

  • canadiancougar624 Provo, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 4:22 p.m.

    Congrats Ziggy! Keep up the hard work!