Missing Utah teen found in tattered socks after 3 days of searching

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  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    ...for whatever reason he’s lost, it doesn’t matter. But we need to help because if we don’t, who will?” were words from one volunteer searcher.
    Probably the only words of wisdom about the whole situation!

  • sjames AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    I worked in a wilderness program fairly similar to the one described for several years. The young people who attend these programs are usually sent there because they are "at-risk." In all of my time there, I can count the amount of "runners" we had in my camp on one hand. It is very rare for someone to try and leave the program.
    That being said, our program did not take their shoes at night or force them to do death marches. This difference in approach is a major reason that our program has had so much success.
    One should be cautious before judging this child or the program. These groups are generally highly regulated and there is very little sexual or other abuse happening. When a kid decides to run, it's almost always because they want to escape the circumstance they found themselves in.
    We shouldn't try to point fingers, we should simply be happy that this young man was found safe and alive.

  • Bruce A. Frank San Jose, CA
    Aug. 5, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    So, Fredsgirl1, you have been a participant in this program and have first hand knowledge of such abuses? Not that such is impossible, but this UT not MA.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    Aug. 5, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    As a juvenile, his privacy is protected by the State and his prior record and convictions are not available to the general public as they would be if he were an adult. As such, juveniles are placed into such programs as a last-ditch effort to rehabilitate them before becoming an adult and being committed to that system. To title them as “troubled” is the politically correct term used nowadays instead of “criminal” but there is no legal difference.

    And these rehabilitation programs actually have a very good success rate. It’s unfortunate that the only time they make the news is when something drastic happens – the same as car accidents, murders, molestations. The few that appear in the news do not account for the hundreds who have changed their lives around as a result of the program. Nobody wants to hear about safe drivers, people who are living as they should or youth programs that are working.

    No, as a society, we want the sensational, the dramatic. “If it bleeds, it leads” is more than just an adage.

  • jrgl CEDAR CITY, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    Thankful this young man was found! Bless you!
    Have to agree with Fredsgirl. These camps & Utah boarding schools for youth in need of behavioral help are beyond a joke. Sorry EJM, I'm no armchair quarterback, but lived through "wilderness survival training for troubled youth" in Utah as a teen. One teen died. What was my offense? Not living up to my potential & hardly a crime. There are plenty of kids who have the "crime" of a stepmom who'd prefer they not be around! Then there are foster kids who sadly end in these programs.
    Ever read the book or see the movie Holes? Yes, these camp, school & group home owners abuse kids, have no education & are in it for the money.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    Armchair quarterbacks. Love reading the postings. Glad he was found. But there was a reason why he was removed from home and placed with the state. Better here now to learn a lesson than to be housed down at the prison in draper in the future. I'm hopeful.

  • fredsgirl1 usa, MA
    Aug. 5, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    Looking for reasons why he ran, I'll give you a few: Bulling by camp inmates, ulling by camp personell, sexual abuse by fellow camp mates, sexual abuse from came personel.

    And if he "Snitches" on these people, why would the authorities believe a troubled boy in the program?

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    So many keyboarding experts, but so few who really understand what it takes to turn a young life around, and even fewer who are willing to put in the effort and take the risks...

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    I'm not a fan of these "wilderness" programs. They usually don't change kids lives and every year it seems like we either have a kid dead, injured severely or lost.

  • RShackleford Saint George, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    I can not see how he could be charged with anything (additional). Any fines would be passed on to his parent(s).They have already paid this Youth Camp to have responsibility over their kid. I'm sure they (parents) are being charged by this business at least $3,000+/mo to fix their kid. any charges would have to be levied against the Those (a business) that had responsibility over this kid at the time. They should also be billed for all costs involved with the search.

    This could be the best thing for this kid, He probably just figured out being out on his own, responsible for your own actions, is not all that easy, or as we used to say, "It's Tough Out West". I hope the best for this kid, not some trumped up charge by the county or state for increased revenue.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    Usually kids in these programs are there because of juvenile criminal activity. They are sometimes given the option to participate in these programs as a means of avoid juvenile detention for things they've done. So, if that was the case for him, it means he'll be facing whatever charges he was probably hoping to avoid, as well as the new charges for leaving the program.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Yeah, it always cracks me up when we want to throw more "charges" on a kid who is just trying to figure some stuff out.

    If he didn't break any law, lay off the kid and let the ranch for "troubled youth" handle it.

  • Macfarren Dallas, TX
    Aug. 5, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    "A judge will determine what will happen next with him. 'He might be facing additional charges because he left the program," Sollis said.'"

    Why? Was he under court order to be at the camp in the first place? Solis references *additional* charges. Where there *original* charges?

    This story seems to be lacking the background information.