Jobs report reveals troubling trend in part-time employment

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  • MrTuscadero Houston, TX
    Aug. 4, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    Funny thing is, the trend started five years ago, just about the time that our current leaders started trumpeting to herald the arrival of a federal mandate to force all employers to provide health insurance for all full-time workers.

    Cause and effect.

    Anyone who fails to see this is probably a graduate of the Lucy and Ethel School of Economics.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Obama said he would work night and day to create jobs. Remember the last thing he thought of at night and the first thing he thought of in the morning. Maybe its working more jobs but only part time. Yea Obama. That is true to his own job it is part time also. To bad he is without a job. That would be the blessing America would enjoy.

  • AmberDru Xenia, OH
    Aug. 4, 2013 2:31 a.m.

    So how will adding millions of more workers help American workers? The Senate bill S744, will add 33 million more workers over the next 10 years. It not only dramatically increases the number of legal immigrants (now at 1 million each year) it dramatically increases the number of work visas. There is a new W visa for unskilled workers too! Our college grads are doing these unskilled jobs now. Why would Obama and Boehner want to do this to American workers?

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:55 p.m.


    It sounds wonderful, but where exactly does the money come from. I own a small business and most of my customers are small businesses. Many of them have been hard hit by the economy so they spend less with me than they did 5 years ago. I use skilled labor so I pay well above minimum wage and provide health insurance. However, if you came in and mandated a 30 percent raise for my employees, I would spend the weekend deciding who was going to lose their job.

    While there are some companies that make large profits and are using the downturn to put downward pressure on wages, there are also alot of companies that are struggling to hang on and barely turn a profit. If you start raising the costs of doing business, either by raising the minimum wage or implementing Obamacare, businesses have to save money somewhere - and low skilled people will be the first to go.

    Americans are getting exactly what they voted for - government intervention that makes business more difficult. While some of you think you are sticking it to the rich, you are really hurting small businesses - and ultimately yourselves.

  • TeaPublican Houston, TX
    Aug. 3, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    We TeaPublicans know the jobs have gone out of the United States and almost everywhere else! Our Corporations must make a corporate profit. Americans want to pay less for everything they buy. Ever hear of Wal-Mart? Some people want their employer to provide them with a minimum wage or more plus all kinds of benefits. Our job creators have to satisfy shareholders and also satisfy Americans need to pay less at the stores. So our job creators do create jobs…they invest in other countries and create jobs in THOSE foreign countries. You want these jobs back in America? Then get rid of the minimum wage, taxes on Corporations, make sure they don’t have to offer any benefits at all and throw out all the federal regulations. That’s how you get the job creator to again invest in our America! Yes, it is true! We TeaPublicans ARE taking back our America in 2014 and 2016. And we will take back that minimum wage law and federal regulations too! “P n P’ in 2016…yes it is going to happen. Perry n Palin in 2016!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    @milehigh "And with 30 hours being set as "full time", most employees will be limited to 29 hours/week. " I find it interesting that Obama and government get criticized but business and corporations escape criticism. Why? It's business giving the shaft to workers in this case. The reason this cannot be perceived by most people is that they have absolutely no knowledge of the economic system they live in.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    @prelax "Business can only cut hours if there is a surplus of labor. They must have workers to fill the extra hours. Enter their demand for surplus labor from illegal workers and visa workers (3.2 million in 2011). Their presense makes this possibile."

    Ever heard of Marx's reserve army of the unemployed?

  • Milehigh BENNETT, CO
    Aug. 3, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    I am shocked that nowhere in the article it talks about extensive article this last week on the Wall Street Journal has pointed out that the number of part time employees will skyrocket because companies are trying to minimize the burden of Obamacare. And with 30 hours being set as "full time", most employees will be limited to 29 hours/week. They will have to find at least 2 jobs. Time for America to wake up and push for an end to Obamacare.

  • Oh My Heck! Vernal, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    @ LA Mormon: You must be kidding! Paying the premiums for private, or even group insurance not tied to an employer, is very expensive. We could not do it, and yet we may be required to. My husband has insurance with his job, and we pay about $285 a month for the premiums. I have a Medicare advantage type insurance, but it pays very little. I work part-time, with no benefits. I would love to retire, but I can't afford to. The premiums where my husband works have gone up since the first of the year, and I expect that trend will continue. I was laid off a fairly good-paying part time job 2 years ago because my employer was worried about the anticipated expense of having to carry insurance for his employees. I can see very few benefits from Obamacare.

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    Since the 1980s we have reverted back to the failed version of Capitalism, Supply-Side Economics. We saw the Internet bubble burst in the 90s followed by the real estate and banking industry failing in 2008. Throughout the 2000s we saw deregulated commodities, such as oil skyrocket. In fact, in 2007, did you know that gas prices should have decreased? Supply increased and demand actually decreased. Instead, the prices doubled. Consumers, were being gouged. Has anyone been held accountable for that?


    Because Supply-Side demands that the markets remain unregulated.

    While a few made killings (and didn't create new jobs) the rest of us suffered.

    Just as we saw in the Gilded Age.

    The market blew up and collapsed in on itself in 2008. Just as we saw in the 20s.

    How many more examples do we need until we (re)discover the lessons our great grandparents knew? Supply-Side doesn't work.

    The truth that they learned (and we have forgotten) is that the real job creators aren't the folks on top but the folks in the trenches.

    If we want to build a healthy long-term economy, we need to focus on rebuilding the middle-class.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Aug. 3, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    obama is my man, he is my hero, and very thing else. People had a chance last year but who wanted to change midstream. (I did) We get what we sow. We all may end up with a obama phone and food stamps.

  • LA Mormon West Valley, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    The ACA will be a huge benefit to workers who are part time once it is fully implemented. Workers will have a freedom that they have never ever had before in America. It is expected that millions of workers will be able to retire because of the ACA and the availability of affordable health care that is not tied to one's job.

    Guess what when people retire they need to be replaced in most cases. That will mean more jobs for workers that are looking and will decrease the available labor supply meaning wages will start to rise because companies will have to pay more to attract good workers. The current problem now has everything to do with the private sector. The companies especially the big ones could afford to provide health care to all employees but they are choosing not to. Short term it may work for them, but long term it is not a good business idea.

  • ImABeliever Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    No one should rely on just one employer or just one income for their daily bread and receive benefits. That is foolish. Employers aren't the only source for benefits. If one is disciplined there are many ways to earn money.
    Personally I have no college degree and yet have a positive attitude and have found many ways to earn money. I went to Insurance School and work in Insurance, plus I work another part time job.
    Plus I studied on my own and learned how the Stock Market works and earn a little money
    that way. Please no comments about how the Stock Market is fixed or whatever.
    I earn money on Cash Reward Credit Cards as well. Again, you have to put in effort, work hard and be disciplined to succeed in these things.
    I am not here to toot my own horn. I mention these things after reading so much negativity on the comments above. I am not wealthy but have no debt and keep the wheels greased financially and so can you.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    Aug. 3, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    Its a numbers game. Politicians have carefully carved out a formula to campaign with. Each month they are able to stand up before cheering crowds who see the neon signs with proof that the economy is improving. But they are just numbers; numbers without substance.

    Every time I hear a new and improved jobs report I cringe. I know full well that all those glorious new jobs are part time and/or low paying jobs. Some weeks ago I read a statistic of how many more people were added to the food stamp roster for every thousand jobs added. And people actually believe that the economy is getting better.

    Let's all take a moment to praise our government who has worked so hard to make sure that - that they will always have food and shelter no matter what happens to the rest of us.

  • E.S Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    Part-time jobs are good for those who want a part-time job. For those like me who need to support a family, part-time jobs are terrible - but unfortunately that's all there is.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Aug. 3, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    It doesn't help that much of the work is being farmed out to groups of industrial slaves in Eastern and Southern Asia. There's a short-term return in cheap goods, but a very harmful long term result of reduced opportunity in both strengthening the brutality and corporate misconduct there and impoverishing the rest of us to their level.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 3, 2013 7:16 a.m.

    This is one of the effects of Obama's trickle up poverty (redistribution). Inflation, especially inflation of food and energy prices is another along with massive deficits. The final nail in America's economic coffin is being put in place-Obamacare. Ironically, its the poor and the middle class who suffers the most. Everyone can see it happening right before our eyes, except those blinded by their liberal ideology.

  • Mark from Montana Aurora, CO
    Aug. 3, 2013 7:14 a.m.

    A major reason the unemployment rate dropped is because 37,000 workers gave up looking and left the workforce. Some day perhaps journalists will start reporting the actual unemployed number that is much higher.

  • Vince Ballard South Ogden, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:46 a.m.

    As a typical Utahn who is politically conservative and practicing L.D.S., I believe it is time for sweeping labor, health care and minimum wage reform. It isn't in the benefit of marriage, family, and the exorbitant cost of welfare and it's attendant evils to permit this trend to continue. A minimum wage that would sustain a family at the poverty levels, and constraints on the use of part time and temporary employment are overdue. Tax penalties and incentives are the best solution to bring this about, since penurious employers put the obligation of supporting their employees life needs on the taxpayer, and companies who are paying a living wage. Fifty to sixty years ago, we weren't having these problems because laws were calculated to prevent them. Further reforms in the 1970's forbade age discrimination and improved workplace safety. Students had access to enough part time jobs for their needs, but the main labor force was made up of full time jobs with benefits. Many of the evils facing our society will resolve themselves if employers are not allowed to "skate" on their obligation of "A fair days wage for a fair days work".

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:37 a.m.

    “There are many workers out there available for work, so employers are able to hire at lower wages,”

    And the Senate wants to open the doors to America with double the green cards and visas, plus allow those here illegally to compete with Americans for jobs. Business is not playing fair with the American worker. Do American workers have any rights anymore.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:15 a.m.

    Part time work means no health coverage which is a boon to employers. Under R. Reagan, there was a trickle down effect. The current malaise in the market is directly attributable to far left reasoning in socialist redistribution of wealth. The capitalistic right wing approach was not much better for certain groups. The "everyone is now poor" is not good either. The answer is for organized labor to give their opinion and exert its influence. James P. Hoffa (yes the son of) of the Teamsters has been "growling of late" about the cost of reform health care. Let's allow his growl to become audible and to listen carefully to what he has to say. Sixty percent of the 2010 census is from European stock and therefore associated with labor. Actually, the left is bereft of such numbers and the 1% on the right is irrelevant.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    Aug. 3, 2013 4:42 a.m.

    Barry O. Is going to unveil 1 million shovel ready jobs soon...

    Fixing roads (translation: supporting friends in solar battery companies), building bridges (translation: developing electric cars in Detroit), and rebuilding the infrastructure (translation: increasing support to PBS, NPR and Planned Parenthood)...

    I wish his mom had of tried the last shovel ready job 40+ years ago...

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 1:12 a.m.

    Business can only cut hours if there is a surplus of labor. They must have workers to fill the extra hours. Enter their demand for surplus labor from illegal workers and visa workers (3.2 million in 2011). Their presense makes this possibile.

    80 hours split between three workers will only hurt our economy more. The is not off topic.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:39 a.m.

    It's called flex for food. The MBAs of the country use their creativity to squeeze more out of the workers, in every shape and work scheme. Let's not forget that employers are also exempt from paying for health insurance, with flexed-out part timers.
    This is one of the main reasons Mitt Romney lost the election. It wasn't as much his LDS faith that hindered him. It was because he reminded too many Americans of the corporate suit who fired them.

  • Oh My Heck! Vernal, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:33 a.m.

    I work at a part-time job with no benefits, making $10 an hour, which is better than some places, worse than others. I had a full-time job, without benefits, and when Obamacare was passed, plus with the downturn of the economy in our area, my employer decided he had to cut back on expenses, so I got laid off two years ago. At age 64, it was not easy to find work, but I had to. Now I work anywhere from 12 hours to 20 hours or so a week, depending on the need. I'd love to retire...I'm 66...but we can't make ends meet on just my husband's income alone. I worry about my children, who are just starting out with their families, attending college, etc. One son is working 3 jobs (1 full-time, and 2 part-time) to support his family. One son graduated from college last year, and is still trying to figure out what to do with his degree. So he's mowing lawns this summer to pay his student loans. It's tough to make a living.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:07 a.m.

    hope n change....

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 10:09 p.m.

    America needs a well-educated population and a strong business and manufacturing culture.

    instead we are spiraling down into an entitlement culture dependent upon government, and a part-time employment culture.

    Obama is a disaster, really.

    But are Republicans much better?

    There are those with the right ideas. Remember, education and quality jobs should be the focus of the next several presidential campaigns.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 10:06 p.m.

    Tabuno--Everyone wants to see a strong middle class with upward mobility of the poor and the middle classes. But trying to take from the rich to give to the poor will not work. Why? Because the politicians are among the very rich 1%. They pass laws with loopholes. They, along with other rich people, hire CPAs and attorney's to help them accumulate and keep their wealth.

    Do you think Obama is doing anything to help the situation? If you do, you are absolutely wrong. Obama is all talk and theory.

    Do you think if democrats had control of all branches of government that the issues of poverty and wealth in America would improve? It wouldn't because Democrats go about it the wrong way.

    If politicians truly wanted to make a difference they would focus on education and quality jobs (not this part time nonsense going on now). They would lower corporate taxes and break unions. This would encourage manufacturing and business back to America.

    Rather than throwing away money into entitlement programs, we should be pouring money into education. Then change the tax code and encourage better jobs.

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    One can't ignore that Universal Healthcare is encouraging more employers to shift fulltime jobs into part time to avoid the expense of healthcare unlder the new federal law.

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 9:10 p.m.

    America's two-class society, pitting rich against the poor continues under our profit driven private economy as Republicans refuse to allow the Obama Administration to make an effort to redistribute America's wealth back to the working class whose labor the private sector uses to gain their profits for their investors and CEOs.