'More Americans than ever' want total smoking ban, and most smokers want to quit

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  • jonik Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 1, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    More "Americans" (meaning US citizens only?) want smoke bans because 99% of the mainstream media promotes that exclusively, with nary a word or thought about bans on industrial toxins, carcinogens and other deadly things "legally" allowed in typical cigarettes..without any testing or humane word of warning.
    References collected about this are at an easily-found site called "Fauxbacco", or just search up terms like "pesticides tobacco", "dioxin tobacco", "radiation tobacco", "tobacco additives", "burn accelerants tobacco"...etc...and then "health insurers invest in tobacco". How many Americans, including US citizens, know about that to be able to say any informed thing pro or con about "smoking" or "tobacco"?

  • postaledith Freeland, WA
    Aug. 1, 2013 2:34 p.m.

    I'm getting really tired of the snide remarks towards liberals. No matter what the topic is, the self-righteous often steer off topic to slam others. Please get off your pedestal before it breaks. Now, about smoking. From personal experience, I smoked off and on for 35 years. I just celebrated 9 years of not smoking. I love being a non-smoker and letting smoking control every aspect of my life. I feel that instead of making it illegal, to ban it from all public places. And to promote more help to those who want to quit.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    Government and big business work together in some of the wrong places. Government will miss out on the tax dollars from tobacco. Companies will miss out on the money they make in all areas. They have diversified into so many other areas of the economy and not just tobacco.

    They always skew the advertising to make it so appealing with a different approach and tactic in their strategic planning.

    Just like the wine companies saying it is good to have a little bit of wine for your body. They don't tell you the cases of what it does in 50 per cent of the wine drinkers. Addiction and lives ruined. A little lie, sin, and those types of vices are good for people since the beginning of time, according to the non-God or God of this world.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:19 a.m.

    This science is a lie, proves nothing, and is not harmful as it is claimed to be. Science and medicine cannot prove it is harmful and has no proof its dangerous or unhealthy or invasive.

    If this science was as bad as people claim why can't they prove anything with their accusations? Smoking does not cause death, disease, or problems which are all imaginary and full of holes and can't be proven in medicine, or science for what it does. The lies will never prove anything except that all their evidences goes up in smoke with shier lies.

    Besides, they can't and won't ban smoking or cigarettes and if they ever do people better be prepared to double digit tax increase on every thing including food. They might even have to start taxing welfare as an unearned income like unemployment income.

    The economy and individuals are not ready to cover such drastic tax increases so they better think twice about what they wish for on an issue that is not even real or true. They should start kissing smokers for keeping governemtn costs in other peoples losses.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:37 p.m.

    The ACA does increase premiums on smokers. Something conservatives complain about. If you are a reckless driver auto insurance rates increase. Should be the same for smokers, being overweight or other unhealthy lifestyle choices.

  • shaun66 mesa, az
    July 31, 2013 8:54 p.m.

    We really have things backwards, society would be much better off if most people wanted to ban alcohol. People don't go home and beat their wife's, or sleep with a stranger because of to many cigarettes.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 31, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    @ Hutterite. I don't live in Utah but I could not think of one thing that has been banned in Utah exclusively or one thing that is forced upon others exclusively in Utah! All the howling and hyperventilation for banning things happen in NY, Chicago, San Francisco or most other liberal states from Guns to soft drinks but never marijuana or alcohol.

  • Serenity Manti, UT
    July 31, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    Hutterite, your Utah bias is showing. I dislike smoking, I don't smoke, no one in my family smokes. But--if someone wants to smoke, probably in the privacy of their own home, that should be their choice. I don't think anyone has the right to tell another not to smoke if it doesn't impede their space. If you want people to stop smoking, make a federal law which prohibits it. lol. Boy would that be funny.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    July 31, 2013 6:49 p.m.

    STOP Banning anything! If most smokers want to stop they will. Banning it will only drive it to the black market. Smokes won't quit if their neighbor has smokes for sale! STOP mentality of banning things, let the free market decide!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 31, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    "always want to force their agendas upon the rest of us! Ban this, mandatory this, force people to do this ad nauseam. And they claim they are all for freedom? Living a lie must be difficult for them."...Utah in a nutshell. Not a lot of democrats caused it, though.

  • ken12s North Salt Lake, UT
    July 31, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    At the very least smoking should be prohibited in any public place including casinos and bars....Colorado already prohibits smoking in it's casinos and it does not seem to keep the smokers away... they just have to go outside while they smoke.. this make perfect sense. I don't care if other people smoke, just don't do it next to me inside a building and blow the smoke in my face... They can kill themselves if they want, I just don't want them to take me with them!

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 31, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    Who among us wants to pay the additional taxes that would be on us if smokers quit?

    Not me.

    "lost in dc" I smoked for over 40 yrs. No longer do, but several times over the course of that 40 yrs. I asked my health insurance carriers why smokers don't pay higher premiums. They all said there was no noticeable difference in the amount of health dollars going to smokers. Some even said smokers used doctors less than non-smokers. Maybe they all got tired of being nagged to death every time they went to the DR.?

    I know I did.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 31, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Again we see that the left (Democrats in general) always want to force their agendas upon the rest of us! Ban this, mandatory this, force people to do this ad nauseam. And they claim they are all for freedom? Living a lie must be difficult for them.

  • BYUtah Fan Herriman, UT
    July 31, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    The nanny state strikes again. I do not smoke nor drink. But, we do not need the state to determine what is in our best interests and what is not. The war on drugs is a perfect example. A very high percentage of people in prison are there for drug related offenses. We are not helping them by criminalizing this behavior. If anything we are ruining their lives much more completely than if we just allowed them their freedom. We also export violence to multiple central and south American countries that feed our illegal drug habit. In other words the negatives of drug prohibitions greatly exceed the benefits. We do not need to add another drug to this failed effort. My drug of choice is chocolate. How long before big brother decides my drug is addictive and bans it?

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    July 31, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    I get a kick out of some of the posts the DN will not allow and some others that they don't bat an eye at...

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 12:01 p.m.

    @atl134..Oh yes, how awful of us to make sure people have affordable healthcare coverage?

    AFFORDABLE? What planet do you live on......my new rates are twice what I use to pay and as has been reported overall, everyone will see a minimum of a 10% increase! Of course its all based upon scale.....for your ilk it is now affordable, so longs as someone else pays the bill!

  • George New York, NY
    July 31, 2013 10:38 a.m.


    I agree, it seems some refuse to learn from

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    Oh yes, how awful of us to make sure people have affordable healthcare coverage. Didn't you just vote in November for a guy who instituted that in his state?

  • htyt St. George, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    I don't smoke and I think is smoking is bad. However, I find it funny that many Utahans deplore smoking, yet have no problem driving during a winter inversion. An inversion affects more Utahans than smoking does. I no longer live in Northern Utah, but when I did I took the bus and walked (yes, I had a car). I tried to make wise decisions that would benefit others positively, however, no one around me seemed to care. My friends would say taking the bus or trax was too difficult. No one cared about how their decision affected others health, but when it came to smoking they were for a ban. So, if we ban smoking because of health reasons, shouldn't we ban cars during the winter inversions? They both have negative impacts and I would say inversions affect more people than smoking does.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    One of the few times I agree with you Craig Clark. Regulating something people want is one thing. Making it completely illegal rarely if ever works. Making cigaretts illegal would only make drug pushers richer. By the way, I've never smoked, and don't like being around it. However think of the tax money that would be lost if smoking were banned. Same with gasoline for example. Look at how much state and federal tax is raised for every gallon of gas sold. In other words, going smokeless and green will be costly to the tax base of the state and federal governments. I wonder if liberals have ever considered that point.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 31, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    It's a double edged sword. On the one hand, I personally find smoking repugnant. On the other, I'm a huge fan of personal freedom and choice, way more so than the state of utah itself wants to tolerate. Smoking is a choice that people make; a bad choice, and some people will always make bad choices. I'm not sure we should let people who make bad choices dictate policy.

  • Whos Life RU Living? Ogden, UT
    July 31, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    To TRUTH,

    Being a person that tends to side with Democrats, I guess I need to start smoking and do other drugs to fit in your paradigm. Thanks for keeping me straight with your apples.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    July 31, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    We've down this road before. Prohibition had a very short lifespan as a social experiment.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    July 31, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Tobacco use is strongly associated with low socio-economic status. The prevalence of current smoking is greatest among adults with working class jobs, low educational level,
    and low income. In 2007, 29% of adults with incomes below the federal poverty level smoked, compared with 20% of those at or above the poverty level. 32% of men below the poverty line were smokers compared with 23% of men at or above poverty level. 26% of women below the poverty line were smokers compared with 18% of women at or above poverty level. Lower education levels are associated with significantly higher rates of smoking during pregnancy. Nearly 24% of women with 9-11 years of education smoked while pregnant compared with 15% of those with 12 years of education and 1.5% of those with 16 or more years of education.

    Although I am strongly in favor of banning smoking entirely in all public places, it is statistically clear that those most affected by smoking are also those who are least able to afford the costs associated with smoking. A recent study indicated that 3 in 4 smokers attempt to stop smoking 3 times during the course of their shortened lives.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    If the democrats are going to force healthcare on us, then we will force them to free their lives of alcohol, drugs, tobacco......how do you Libs like those apples!

  • Larceny Rural Hall, USA, NC
    July 31, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    Ban smoking! Do it, it is addictive, harmful, and expensive! Get rid of it, give people their lives back!