Immigration reform a 'moral obligation,' signers of GOP letter to Congress say

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  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    Barack Obama has rapidly increased our national debt to $17 trillion. Taxpayers have been saddled with educating,housing,feeding, incarcerating and policing the 12 million illegals. It is time to be compassionate to the 20 million, Blacks, legal Hispanic,White and every other unemployed and underemployed citizen. We have already spent our treasure. Some like those that signed the letter have certainly benefited but as a nation we are in crisis. Some common sense legislation is needed. We don't need to repeat what happened in 1986.Employers have not covered the cost of illegal immigration.

  • Nosea Forest Grove, OR
    Aug. 4, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    The only moral obligation Congress has is to enact laws for US citizens not foreigners. With 20 million citizens unable to find adequate employment, it is ludicrous to even consider bringing in another 40 million immigrants to compete for diminishing jobs, both skilled and unskilled.

    For instance, why do we have to ensure that Asians usurp all the good-paying engineering jobs while our own citizens face an increasingly dwindling number of middle-class jobs? And this is a moral imperative to reward foreigners at the expense of citizens because the 1% get to walk away with ever more? What a demented and corrupt nation the US has become.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    Oragami Well said. Reality is we are not going to round up and deport over ten million people. Deal with it. The tea party doesn't want citizenship for illegals because they are afraid the majority will vote democrat. A big Kudos to KSL's Doug Wright for his courage in standing up to far right on immigration and also the Sutherland Institute. Dave 4197 I concur with your comments. WTZ secure borders and a reasonable immigration policy is exactly what us RINO's want. What is your point?

  • oragami St. George, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 1:52 a.m.

    Illegal immigrants are here and they are not going anywhere. We already have defacto amnesty so what is the point of resisting change? People suffer because the current system is broken. I know many of you like to scapegoat illegals (they take our jobs, destroy our culture etc....), but the truth is that our nation is strengthened by immigrants, not weakened. Bring them into the fold, make them earn legal status (which the current senate bill does), and focus on how YOU can contribute in a positive way. These so-called RINOs are the only Republicans left in this county, the rest of them have lost their way and sold their souls to the insidious and extreme selfishness and tribalism of the libertarian and tea party wings of the GOP.

  • Ophelia Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 12:05 a.m.

    You've got to be taught to hate and fear,
    You've got to be taught from year to year,
    It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear,
    You've got to be carefully taught.

    You've got to be taught to be afraid
    Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
    And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
    You've got to be carefully taught.

    You've got to be taught before it's too late,
    Before you are six or seven or eight,
    To hate all the people your relatives hate,
    You've got to be carefully taught!

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 1, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    Mr. Bean,

    Didn't Mitt Romney teach us that corporations are people too?

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:04 a.m.

    There is a segment of our citizen population we need to consider here.
    27 million people between the ages of 18 and 64 with a high school diploma or less who are not working. Many of them are minorities.
    This demographic completes head-to-head with 8 million illegal aliens working here.
    What compassion and concern do you have for them?
    PLUS, there are 10 million teens out of work.
    Is being neighborly to trespassers really the moral high ground here? I don't think so.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    July 31, 2013 8:14 p.m.

    @dave4197, Redding, CA:
    "This letter breathes a breath of needed fresh air into the republican party's no immigrant attitude."

    Republicans are not 'no immigrant.' The party is no ILLEGAL immigrant.

    "Mexicans are our neighbors..."

    Yeah, but their citizens mostly live in the US... illegally. If Mexico was a good neighbor it would help secure the border. But no... they want Mexicans to cross to America to get jobs sending money to relatives in Mexico to spend there... to bolster their economy. Nice neighbors.

    "illegal immigrants are mostly a bunch of poor people..."

    We have alotta poor people in the US... Poor people looking for work... which illegal immigrants are taking.

    "...let's have a heart and help them and at the same time Change a Bad Law like the present (anti) immigration policy."

    The current policy admits about one million immigrants into the US each year. What more do you want?

    "Am looking for any poster who has a moral compass to comment positively with me on this story."

    Few will, because your position will eventually ruin this country. Secure borders and a reasonable immigration policy is what we need.

  • Mr. Bean Pheonix, AZ
    July 31, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    "Keep in mind there are winners and losers with mass immigration from the south."

    The losers are the American workers who are looking for work and can't find it... in our economy with 15 percent (real) unemployment. The influx of probably more than 40 million illegal immigrants who will get amnesty and who are willing to work for less, will mean growing numbers of idle Americans. Which means billions more of unemployment payouts using tax dollars. Are we nuts, or what?

    "Keep in mind African Americans have died disproportionately in our wars."

    What?? About half million whites died in the American Civil War to guarantee freedom of black Americans. And by the way, they are not 'African' Americans. They've never lived a day of their lives in Africa... They're Americans.

    "They deserve better."

    They need to earn it... like all Americans have to.

    "Haven't we already given voting rights to those who hire the people here illegally? So haven't we already given voting rights to the lawbreakers?"

    Corporations don't vote.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    July 31, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    This letter breathes a breath of needed fresh air into the republican party's no immigrant attitude. I hope the republicans in congress will listen. I don't expect any tea partiers to listen, they never do. Certainly the above posters are not listening to any such good sense as this letter promotes. Mexicans are our neighbors, let's be neighborly. illegal immigrants are mostly a bunch of poor people, let's have a heart and help them and at the same time Change a Bad Law like the present (anti) immigration policy. I stand with the folks who wrote and signed the letter in this article. And I've stood in the capitol against a Utah legislator who tried to pass a mean spirited law a couple of years ago.

    Am looking for any poster who has a moral compass to comment positively with me on this story.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Keep in mind there are winners and losers with mass immigration from the south. Wealthy people generally benefit. For whites it is a wash overall. But for African Americans this immigrant flow has been a bust. Keep in mind African Americans have died disproportionately in our wars. They deserve better.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 31, 2013 1:01 p.m.


    Haven't we already given voting rights to those who hire the people here illegally? So haven't we already given voting rights to the lawbreakers?

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    July 31, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    "We have a moral obligation to secure God-given rights of freedom and liberty to all people."

    The so-called God-given rights can be found in other nations. So, illegal immigrants, go home and look to your own countries for these rights. We know why you want to immigrate to America... because we have politicians who want to hand out largesse to you... financed by the American taxpayer.

    "It's not a political issue."

    Typical lie of the liberal left. It IS a political issue. Democrats are hoping to add possibly 20 to 40 million new voters to their rolls via their amnesty action.

    Democrats are currently pushing to give illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship, designed to take 13 years but will not include voting privileges, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. What the Dems are not telling us is, after the 'pathway' is established they will push for these other denied privileges. And what is the logic? They will maintain that it is unfair and disingenuous to be legally in the US but denied all the benefits. And they will us the US Constitution's 'Equal Protection' clause to do it.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    July 31, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    Immigration reform is fine,

    but if it is just code words for amnesty, and looking the other way to illegal immigration and not securing our borders,.

    That is just plain immoral and wrong.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    To GOP leaders:
    Read the platform.

  • anon46545 Dallas, TX
    July 31, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    Americans OPPOSE by 4-to-1 any increase to immigration from current levels. Yet that’s EXACTLY what the Senate delivered — mass expansion of both foreign “guest worker” programs and immigration.

    This nation struggles with real unemployment at nearly 15%, falling wages and escalating poverty. Yet the Senate delivers legislation to enrich corporations and elites while leaving the middle-class and poor to confront DECADES of increased unemployment and declining wages. FACTS confirmed by the CBO.

    America has as abundance of workers with the skills, education and intelligence for EVERY available job. The only “shortage” we face is of plutocrats recognizing the need for self-preservation.

    The American people have spoken — the only way such legislation becomes law in OUR nation is at the point of a gun. Will putting the heads of plutocrats on pikes be necessary to end their pointless stream of propaganda?

    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

    – Thomas Jefferson

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    If you give these lawbreakers voting rights, then say good bye to Texas, Florida, Arizona, just like we did in California in 1988!

  • watchman Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    Stan "said Republicans in Congress should be making decisions based on party principles". It is sad when some former leaders in the Republican party see that rewarding those that have broken our laws as being a part of decisions based on GOP principles. It is also sad when these leaders think nothing of giving a slap in face to those immigrants who have paid the price and gone through the process of legal citizenship only to pander to a group that they hope will give them votes in the future.

    It can be agreed that the visa and green card system may need some reforms and adjustments but let us be truthful and genuine in these efforts and let's do them based on true GOP fair principles.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 31, 2013 5:47 a.m.

    It is abundantly clear that the GOP is impeding our progress as a nation.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    July 31, 2013 5:21 a.m.

    100 people that would sell out the Republican party with 46 million Democrats and destroy our two party system, plus sink our economy for 10 years to get cheap labor.

    Let's get Americans back into the jobs that were taken from them, before Obamacare and companies moving to 29hour employees do more damage to our economy. Without all this illegal surplus labor they will have to keep employees working 40 hours.

    Bring back enforcement and start charging employers who hire people here illegally with felonies, like the law says. It's not surpising that they want reform, it gives employers amnesty also. Is it a moral obligation to bail out dishonest employers?

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    July 30, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    It's interesting how these elite, wealthy Utahns, who have selfishly enriched themselves by bending or breaking multiple laws want to now redefine the term morality to meet their own questionable standards.

    Supporting a policy which would harm the citizens of our country while favoring foreigners who have willfully violated our laws is amoral.

    Some of them want to just focus on the so-called dreamers, aka children brought here by their parents. But the details of this proposal reveal that these "children" can be as old as 35, and as soon as they are granted amnesty, their parents are also immediately allowed to stay, which covers about 75% of the current illegal alien population.

    I don't know why these so-called Republican leaders are so bent on fulfilling the amnesty dreams of Obama and other Democrat leaders. Whoever has their ear is giving them horrible political advice. Is the prospect of earning a few extra dollars from cheap labor worth adding an overwhelming number of voters who will elect future Democrat politicians, who will end taking that money through higher taxes?

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    July 30, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    Voters have a moral obligation to get rid of politicians who break their solemn oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

    If they are going to reward lawbreakers, then let's all stop paying our taxes today, and expect amnesty for our illegal acts, since that is the new RINO approved policy.

    Legal immigration is welcome, but illegal immigration will destroy our country.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 30, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    Since when do we have a "moral obligation" to reward lawbreakers?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2013 6:51 p.m.

    There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the current Senate bill or the House of Representatives ideas that will benefit legal American citizens. In fact, its just the opposite.

    The ONLY ones who benefit are the illegal/unethical employers. The rest of us will pay the social costs of higher unemployment, 20 million "new" employees looking for jobs, etc.

    Lobbyists for smarmy employers are putting EVERYTHING they have into passage of the current amnesty legislation.

    Ever wonder WHY the minimum wage remains so low? Employers' constant use of cheap (and illegal0 labor is one major factor.
    I don't understand how Obama can be FOR jobs for Americans, yet, at the same time allow tens of millions of illegal workers to take their jobs.

    Amnesty legislation also rewards illegal behaviors; something we should ALL be against.

  • Carson Provo, UT
    July 30, 2013 6:35 p.m.

    Taking care of Americans, not Illegals is whats a moral obligation for this nation. Say No to any form of amnesty!

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    This is the kind of people the GOP must rid themselves of if they are going to have a future.....Just say no to the RINO's of the GOP!

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    July 30, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    It's not about passing immigration reform. It's about what is in the reform law. That is where the problem is. That is where the fight is. A classis case of "The Devil is in the Details".

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    July 30, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    The elites have spoken. It must be the right thing to do...if your bottom line benefits from cheap labor.
    Stay strong, Congressmen. They aren't your constituents; we are.