Groups want judge to stop Salt Lake Tesoro refinery's expansion

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  • PeanutGallery Salt Lake City, UT
    July 25, 2013 2:01 a.m.

    When Dr. Moench and his group make a public statement, it’s usually a concern that’s manufactured or way overstated. Yes, pollution is often a concern, and we should do what we reasonably can. But the doctor does not have the answer, with his ideological opposition to mining, fossil fuels, and nuclear power. His prescriptions would further damage our economy, raise prices, and kill jobs, while providing little or no provable health benefit.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 24, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    Gas prices are driven not only by the price of oil, but also by the capacity of the refineries. Rather than the expansion just being about the refiners making money (if they did not, there would be no refiners and we would have no gasoline), it is about removing another factor that puts upward pressure on gas prices.

    Also, it is for domestic oil, helping reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

    It’s a win-win.

    I remember a few years ago there was talk of putting a refinery in near Green River that would handle the high paraffin Uintah Basin oil. I think some greenies probably stopped it - now it's coming to an urban area. Smooth move, greenies.

  • Science Rules Salt Lake City, UT
    July 24, 2013 2:43 p.m.

    @ My 2 Cents:

    I agree that the inversions cause a lot of our pollution problems, but I don't know how you can say that industry does not pollute. Of course the refineries add to the pollution. But I agree with you that the majority of the pollution comes from personal vehicles. The best way to limit pollution along the Wasatch Front is to streamline traffic, encourage working from home and satellite locations, and expand and grow ridership on public transportation. This group blaming refineries for the pollution problems reminds me of someone who once told me that they don't like refineries because they are ugly (as she walked out to her car to go do errands).

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    July 24, 2013 3:25 a.m.

    This group is just blowing smoke, industry in Utah is not polluting this state, its our own government that is causing the pollution. Inversions are a natural event and cannot be used to determine pollution levels unless these groups are willing to depopulate the state of people.

    Inversions have been a part of the Wasatch front from the time long before the Mormons moved in and its accumulative affects are not cause to blame any industry for pollution readings. Federal and State averages cannot be standardized on any standard charts, Utah is a unique condition found no where else in the world and that must be a considered as a natural environmental condition. As long as individual daily standards are in compliance, the accumulative standards and weather conditions over time do not apply.

    People and government are the polluters, not these small industry operations, and Utah is all small industry business. The only big industry Utah has is government, airport, military Aircraft who have no emission standards and put out the emissions of 50,000 cars and no body seems to want to tackle those real environmental issues.