Reports: Utah Jazz to sign point guard John Lucas III

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  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    Most of you guys are overanalyzing this move. The Jazz are filling roster spots. That's all this is. They did not see John Lucas and say,man this guy is going to take us places. He is cheap and gives the Jazz another point guard. He will play a year or 2 here probably and that will be the extent of it.

    To the fan that said this has been a bad offseason. No, it has not. Resigning Al and Paul and being an 8th seed contender would be worse. The way the NBA works is you have to clean house and rebuild every once in a while. The Spurs did it before they made this run, the Thunder, the Heat before 2006, the Lakers before Gasol, the Bulls pretty much since MJ retired and D Rose came.

    The Jazz are developing their young talent, keeping financial flexibility and will have a good draft pick in a deep draft next year most likely. How is that a bad plan as opposed to bringing back a mediocre team that probably would miss the playoffs anyway?

    I look forward to seeing the youngsters develop finally!

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    Osgrath hit the nail on the head. I get a little tired of people and sites that forecast the season.They already have the champion crowned. Lets play the season and see what happens ..

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    July 16, 2013 6:01 p.m.

    A very juvenile approach always looks for immediate gratification. A lot of immaturity on this board today - people who think running after free agents in this year’s shallow pool would take the Jazz to the promised land. People need to recognize that Utah is not New York, Chicago or L.A. It more closely resembles places like Oklahoma City or San Antonio. Both those success stories gained their current status through the draft, not by wholesale signing of free agents.

    Another point seemingly lost on the whiners is that after the Mailman and Stockton retired, the Jazz was stuck in a recurring cycle of mediocrity because they have been too good to get great draft picks but never had the quality to get to the second round of the playoffs more than on rare occasions. Now they have five starters under the age of 23. None is an obvious hall-of-famer, but a great and cohesive team is always more lastingly effective than a superstar with a weak supporting cast. As young as they are, we can certainly expect them to improve, perhaps exponentially. Won’t happen unless they play, though.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 16, 2013 4:52 p.m.


    you say that the jazz should just pay free agents...and get free agents...ok...who do you think should return with us? and who do you think is that missing piece to get us a championship?...Big Al? Millsap? Mo? Igoudala? Calderon? Teague?...and i guess you are also willing to let go of Hayward Favors, Kanter and Burks in the who'll you replace them with? be honest...Big Al and Paul Millsap are just not good enough to get us a championship...even if you add players like Igoudala Calderon or might say sign you really think he would take us to the promise land? with the cap space that we have...if we signed big Al and Paul it'll eat more than half of it...its like saying you want to have a fringe playoff team...

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    July 16, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    Brahmabull- You might need to get yourself a fresh bowl of wheaties and stop and smell the roses. I am excited to watch this young team grow. I am excited to watch Dennis Lindsey continue this new aggressive management style. I just hope we can hang onto him.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:16 a.m.


    I've read Jazz Source comments twice and he never comes close to comparing current Jazz players to Kevin Durrant. I don't know how you take that leap. The comments talk about building through the draft, like OKC did by acquiring high lottery picks like a Durrant. The Jazz have never had the opportunity before to build through the draft because frankly, they were always too good to draft that high. Players like Durrant were long gone when the Jazz were picking. Over the last couple of years they've acquired the core 4 ( now core 5 with Burke) and these guys are all high lottery picks. We've never been able to see how good they are however because we kept replaying the Big Al and Millsap show. Well that show just got cancelled and now we can truly see what these young kids can do. Next year we can probably add 1 or 2 other high lottery picks. We won't be good this season, but I think the future is finally looking better.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 16, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    Jazz Source

    Did you really just compare our young players to Kevin Durant?? If so, you have lost it. We don't have Durant... we have Kanter, Burks, Hayward, and Favors. Hardly a threat to any other team. And yes, they are tanking. Trying to build through the draft is such a crap shoot. If they would actually pay free agents to come here they would. Or they can keep praying that the draft pans out - even though only a few picks panned out in the 40 years of the franchise. Yeah, smart move.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    July 16, 2013 6:12 a.m.

    I have never seen Lucas play, but the Jazz needed a veteran point guard to mentor Burke if they weren't going to re-sign Tinsley or Watson. He's a little shorter than Burke and lighter, too, so I imagine he's learned some things over the years to get by obstacles presented by bigger guards. Aggressive too, apparently, maybe like Watson a bit. Still hoping Stockton invites Jazz guards up to his home court for some spirited ball.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 15, 2013 11:04 p.m.

    @Real Bass

    Maybe you could explain how playing multiple top young draft picks is tanking? Was OKC tanking when the drafted and played Durrant? They were horrible with him starting but they weren't tanking. They were building.

    Fascinating the amnesia fans get when it suits their whiny agenda. When you see our starting five sitting on the bench when they are fully capable of playing then you can say they are tanking.

    The Spurs literally made up injuries and sat The Admiral to tank and get the top pick (Duncan). That is why the lottery was changed to prevent the motivation to tank. You only get a 25% chance to get the top pick even with the worst record.

    Nice theory though. Not.

    Some fans may be gullible but those with any basketball IQ at all should be able to see the Jazz are simply starting a rebuild the only way they can while canceling the pathetic rerun of winning 40ish games and missing the playoffs.

    Many are sick of the endless mediocrity and are thrilled they are getting serious about ending it.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    July 15, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    So we all know, Lindsey has decided to tank the jazz before the preseason in hopes that the ping pong balls bring him an admiral. I always thought that losing on purpose was poor sportsmanship. These free agent picks would get any other gm in the league fired but Utahans have a reputation for gullibility.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    July 15, 2013 8:35 p.m.

    I don't know who George Lucas III is but good luck to his brother John.. And to the few boo-hoos I hope you enjoy your Crow this time next year..

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 15, 2013 6:26 p.m.

    If nothing else, these moves by the Jazz are bringing new life to these comment boards. The last couple of years the old stick in the mud philosophy of the Jazz made people lose interest I guess and there just weren't that many comments on Jazz articles. Now everyone has an opinion one way or another and that keeps things interesting for me. I appreciate reading all your posts, even those I don't agree with.

  • xxJazzAddict05xx heber, ut
    July 15, 2013 5:28 p.m.

    We're making a move at Wiggins or Parker. This is awesome! Its going to be a rough year but if we see some growth in Favors, Canter, Hayward and Burke and get a top 5 pick, we could be looking good in a couple years. Next year's draft is loaded. Next year we can bring in some good talent in free agency because we'll clear out a bunch of cap space. We don't want to be the top of the non playoff teams and ruin our chances of getting an awesome pick.

    George Lucas III is the key to the future!

  • CottageCheese SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:07 p.m.


    Some teams can build through free agency, some teams cant.

    The Jazz can't. They are a small market team and have trouble attracting big names.

    What is their only other option? Build through the draft.

    What have they been doing since the Deron Williams trade?

    Building through the draft.

    Ask yourself this.... would you rather be an 8th seed first round exit team every year? Or, would you rather have a few down years in hope of having a few tremendous years.

    I understand hope is hope - but the Jazz are trying to put together a stellar team through the draft while developing young talent. If this includes "tanking" then tank away in my opinion!

    Lest we forget - no one even thought about the Heat as a contender until Wade/Shaq and then Lebron/Wade. They STUNK too. All good teams STINK every now and then.

    Jazz made the western conference finals and a few 2nd rounds a few years with D-Will. I can see that happening again next year or the year after.

  • Utejazzfn3431 Draper, Utah
    July 15, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    This has been the best off season in many years for the Jazz. If you don't understand that than you are happy to be a fringe playoff team year in and year out. If the Jazz don't ever play the young guys they will not know what their value will be when they need to resign them. We do not want a Kirilenko contract on the books again. The Jazz will be just fine this year. In order for the Jazz to ever be a contender again we might need to take a step backward. Jefferson and Millsap did nothing for us to be a contender.
    I will be watching every game this year. I have never been more excited about the Jazz potential as now.

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    July 15, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    The Last couple of years I have been in the habit of recording all Jazz games and then watching them on delay only if I know the team had a chance to win or had already won. I can clearly see the same philosophy this year would mean I watch very few Jazz games.

    I think those core young guys might hold there own on many occasions, but the second unit of Lucas, Rush, Biedrins, Jefferson, Evans will spoil most any chance for victory.

    I hope I can accept the changed mindset of just watching basketball without being to tied so much to the outcome.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 15, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    This signing makes the Jazz the clear favorites to win the NBA title next season. Lucas was an all-star in the Chinese league in 2010.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 15, 2013 4:16 p.m.

    Well, the last piece of the puzzle is in place. Now the Jazz can dominate from every position. Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Burke... and Lucas III. What a horrible offseason for the jazz. If tanking was the number one goal, congrats Greg Miller, congrats.

  • Little Andy Tremonton, UT
    July 15, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    He must have something the rest of us can't see. Hope he is third string. Don't let Corbin know he is over thirty years old or he will start him and give him 35 minutes..