Sunday sermons tackle Zimmerman verdict

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  • RDJntx Austin, TX
    July 20, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Where is the outrage over this - Black man shoots and kills unarmed white 17 year old kid, gets off scott free.

    Roderick Scott - google him

    I am NOT saying there should be, but if you are going to make a racial case against the zimmerman trial, where is the racial case here? where is al and obama and jessie? this kid was UNARMED and gunned down by a black man who profiled the kid as a criminal.

  • RDJntx Austin, TX
    July 20, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    Race will ALWAYS be an issue in the U.S. until the race baiters are all dead. Jackson, Sharpton, Obama, and all the rest. When their generation dies out there may be hope for some racial healing. There needs to be a cultural change and as long as there are race baiters that change will not come. becuase the sheep will not be led by anyone else.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    July 19, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    When confronted, editors at the Washington Post and the New York Times admitted to downplaying black on white assaults and murders because they supposedly were concerned about racial tensions these reports might bring.

    Funny how they don't seemed to be concerned at all about reporting to the hilt about a non-black on black assault or murder. It was even shown that main-stream media doctored tapes of this incident to make it appear Zimmerman was racist, when in fact, he is not. He had donated hundreds of hours in mentoring fatherless Black children before any of this happened.

    The point is that the media itself is biased, and that bias is toward left-wing liberalism. They have the ability to play-up incidents into bigger events than they often should be. And they also have the ability to downplay events that should receive more attention. As such, we should be very wary of anything reported in the media... especially connected to race, since it often will have a political agenda.

    There is a whole group of Black political activists who literally make their livings by playing the race card as much and as often as possible.

  • jmason San Diego, CA
    July 19, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    What is the point of wearing a hoodie anyway? Is it to keep warm by? When I was robbed it was in the middle of the summer, the young man was wearing it (I assume) to obscure his appearance.

  • jmason San Diego, CA
    July 19, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    I was robbed at gunpoint by a young black male in a "hoodie". This young man had me on my knees, the gun barrel pushed up against my head. To this day, if I see a young black male in a hoodie my heart skips a beat, and I move to the other side of the street or hall or wherever it is that I'm at. Does this make me a racist?

    It really bothers me the way certain congressmen and ministers are donning hoodies to show solidarity with the cause.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 17, 2013 4:34 p.m.

    To ute alumni

    Are you just making up stats about the guy? 6'2 185??? Where did you get that? I read a confirmed report that he was 5'11 158.... Little difference there, wouldn't you say?

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:48 p.m.


    What you seem to have missed about the police and their testimony is that they themselves did not believe that a crime has been committed. This case was examined by not only the local authorities, but the FBI too. No charges were warranted per their investigations. It was only after the race baiting left pushed for an arrest that the case went to trial. Likely the police on the stand did not think Zimmerman should have even been charged in the first place. Understand? The funny part is that the prosecution violated the first rule of questioning. Don't ask a question that you don't already know the answer to. They failed to put up police testimony that would have helped for a conviction. And since none existed, that should have told them they had no case to begin with. They'd have been better off leaving the police out altogether, but then I'm sure the defense would have called them as witnesses. Bottom line to all this. There was no viable case, and it was nothing other than a political prosecution. I'm glad it failed.

  • Whos Life RU Living? Ogden, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    To ute alumni,

    Your credibility is very low.

    "The media is in the tank for Martin. The only pictures they show of him are 5 years old. At 17 he was 185 lbs and 6'2", hardly a little boy."


    The medical examiner’s report on the death of Trayvon Martin indicated that the deceased was actually 5’11” and weighed 158 lbs., and he had two tattoos, none of which was on his face, neck, or the back of his hands (one was on his right arm and the other on his left wrist.)

  • Rod Provo, UT
    July 16, 2013 3:05 p.m.


    Based on what you said I would have to agree with you that there were no protests because the perpetrators were arrested.

    You are wrong about not processing his clothing. Police had him take off his clothing at the police station for processing and they did forensic gunshot testing on his hands. Based on the evidence that the police had at the time they couldn't arrest him. As far as the testimony from the police I would ask you if you thought that they were lying? If they weren't lying then what is your problem with their testimony?

    Your comment that you feel that this may have been racially motivated is completely without merit. Many of Zimmerman's close relatives are black. Zimmerman went to the defense of a black man that was beaten by the Sanford police. Zimmerman was mentoring two black children whose father was in prison. Zimmerman took a black girl to his senior prom.

    I can name several high profile attornys that feel that this case should never have been tried. The jury has spoken and Zimmerman was found not guilty. Thanks for your reply.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 16, 2013 12:24 p.m.


    I didn't miss the point at all. I merely pointed out that the Chellew case is irrelevant, and the fact that people aren't talking about it shows absolutely no media bias. The reason nobody is talking about it is because there were arrests, and justice is being served. There is no reason to bring up any case that involves an arrest and charges being brought. The reason the Zimmerman case has outraged people is that, unlike you, many people (including many legal minds) believe there was absolutely evidence to charge Zimmerman. The fact that they didn't even process his clothing or arrest him left people with the impression that the Police weren't really interested in fully investigating the case.

    Unprecedented in this case, the Police on the stand did everything they could to acquit the defendant, which even people who supported Zimmerman thought was strange. Again, this leaves the impression that they were submarining the case. I don't know for sure if Zimmerman was racially motivated or not (I tend to think he was), but I do feel the police botched the investigation pretty badly.

  • Rod Provo, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    OHBU/Columbus, Ohio - You have missed the point. Yes there were arrests in the Joshua Chellew case because four assailants beat him senseless and then kicked him out into the road where he was run over and died. In the Zimmerman case it is an entirely different story. Zimmerman didn't beat Martin senseless it was the other way around. Police at the scene interviewed people that were there and based on the physical evidence, the statement of witnesses and the statement of Zimmerman decide that it was self defense. And based on the law they could not arrest Zimmerman.

    I guess we could get into the Marley Lion case also. Marley was a seventeen year old (white) honor student that was attacked by four blacks while Marley was in his car and they tried to rob him. They subsequently shot him to death. Those perpetrators have also been arrested. The arrests in both of these cases was warranted because of the very nature of these (white) men being murdered. I don't believe that the Marley murder was racial. The jury has found Zimmerman "not guilty". There was no murder and it was not racially motivated.

  • Rod Provo, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    It is absolutely fascinating to me how some people will comment with wrong information on the Zimmerman trial. They read about what one person or one reporter says and then accept that as fact. I've heard very few actual facts about this case from most of those that are commenting. That is sad that they haven't made the effort to get the facts before commenting and convicting an innocent man in their minds.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 16, 2013 8:47 a.m.


    Your example only proves the point of those you oppose. There's no outrage over Joshua Chellew because his assailants were immediately arrested and, most likely, will be sent to prison. The outrage over Zimmerman didn't begin when Trayvon was killed, but when police decided they didn't need to arrest and charge Zimmerman with anything. It's not the death that people are outraged about, but the apparent lack of justice. There are also no protests about Johnny Lee Butts--a black man who was run over by a white kid--because that kid has been arrested and charged, and Mr. Butts is going to receive justice.

    And please don't be so callous as to insinuate that no tears have been shed over all the deaths in Chicago. If you actually paid attention, there are numerous events held, sermons delivered, and yes, even Presidential addresses on the matter. The fact that you're aware of the problem indicates the media's attention to it.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    July 15, 2013 8:07 p.m.

    Thete is a lot a minister could say about this case. I think thst the verdict was correct as per Florida's laws. Having said that, . Zimmerman probably wishes with all his heart he could undo what he did. He should have followed the police orders and not followed Trayvon. But the media messed up. They made the story they wanted to make.

  • FrankSegesman ,
    July 15, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    A good preacher will tell everyone to respect the verdict which was based upon the law of the land. A racist preacher will stir up more trouble.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    Are these tearful congregants crying for Joshua Chellew, a white guy recently murdered by four black guys? What, you don't know about that case?

    The leftist media loves to incite the black community, but completely disregards any black on white, or black on black crimes.

    A lot of black people have been murdered in Chicago's gun-controlled ghettos during the past many months under Rahm's watch. Any tears shed for those victims of black on black crimes? Didn't think so.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    are these girls crying because George Zimmerman didn't go to prison? I suspect 99% of these congregations are being fed a bunch of hooey and racial hate about the case. Sad but predictable.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    re:Chris B

    very well said. We have at work in this country some very bad people with bad intent. I suspect no one is going to want to sign up for neighborhood watch anymore and I suspect folks are going to be scared to death to use a gun to protect themselves in any life threatening situation going forward ...not fearing the law but fearing instead all the media and politicians who seem to have power to do whatever they want. NBC as you recall doctored the original 911 tapes to make it seem like Zimmerman was targeting a black kid and then put that garbage out for all to see and hear. Obama claims to be president of all of us yet in every case where it is white vs black he always sides with the black before even hearing the facts. This is nothing more than political sabotage.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    The media is in the tank for Martin. The only pictures they show of him are 5 years old. At 17 he was 185 lbs and 6'2", hardly a little boy.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    July 15, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    I wonder if any of the tears shed in so many of these photo's were for any of the hundreds of blacks that are/were killed in Chicago since Trayvon was killed?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 3:59 p.m.

    The New York times described Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" even though Zimmerman self identifies only as "Hispanic"

    When was the last time you saw the media label a Hispanic as a "white Hispanic" or a "brown Hispanic"?

    Disingenuous and poor attempt by the media to make this a white vs. black thing as much as possible.

    Racism is attacking Zimmerman simply because he is "whiter" than Treyvon.

    If Zimmerman was black, no one would have been calling for his conviction.

    certainly not the NAACP.