Weber State, SUU football: Wildcats, Thunderbirds selected near the bottom of the Big Sky preseason polls

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  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 30, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    Again look at his carrer. Instead of your tunnel vision of just last year. Brad is the best. I'm done arguing with you because you clearly will never see what I'm saying. Get rid of your tunnel vision and we will make progress.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    July 30, 2013 7:28 a.m.

    Keeton had better numbers overall last year and against much stronger competition. Sorensen’s numbers actually went down from 2011 when faced with stiffer competition in the Big Sky in 2012. I’m sure his numbers would have been even worse had he been in the WAC or MWC, mediocre at best.
    In online polls, informed football fans voted Keeton the best QB in the state last year, followed by Nelson then Sorensen and then Hays.

    Sorry, but it’s real hard to argue against facts.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 29, 2013 1:43 p.m.


    Because he was. Just because he didn't have a good game against your aggies doesn't mean he was nothing. His entire carrer he succeded. Keeton has a long way to go before he get's a better carrer then Brad. Only you aggies look at stats from one season. Overall stats prove that he is/was the best. Just because you hate SUU doesn't mean you can ignore the facts of a person's carrer. USU was ready but overall Brad had amazing numbers and an amazing time with SUU.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    July 29, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    How can you say the best QB in the state was Sorensen? A simple check of statistics proves otherwise. In their head-to-head game last year Keeton went 23-26-1 for 304 yards passing and 2 passing touchdowns. Sorensen was 12-31-1 for 153 yards passing and 0 passing touchdowns. In fact Keeton's passing yardage eclipsed the entire SUU football team's output of 209 yards.
    Sorensen for the season had a 62.2 percent completion rate, 23 passing touchdowns and a total of 3139 passing yards. Keeton for the season had a 67.6 percent completion rate,27 passing touchdowns and a total of 3373 passing yards.
    You can tell yourself whatever you want but stats don't lie.

    Sorry to burst the fantasy bubble but the best QB in the state last year resided in Logan.

  • Southpaw Southern, UT
    July 23, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    @The A Game

    I would never say this to a fellow fan unless it needs saying. People like Stang08 are right and you need to grow up my friend. No one should act like this. Good luck SUU. Hope it's a good year for you and all in state schools.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    July 21, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    Nice improvement suu. You are only picked nearly at the bottome instead of the bottom. Way to be there!

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 21, 2013 12:14 a.m.


    Couldn't agree with you more. Finally someone see's what I've been saying for years.

  • milkshake St. George, UT
    July 19, 2013 10:38 p.m.

    Contrary to what has been said, much effort goes into the entire FCS level football. They are not BCS groupies picking SEC teams. It is probably the "fairest" system in football as they actually have a playoff structure. Quick reminder, the best QB in the state of Utah was not from the "Big 3", he was from SUU. I get that neither of these teams have large filled to capacity stadiums and large contracts with Nike or Under Armour...he is what they do have: A large number of Utah, born and bred, athletes, playing their hearts out for the love of the game. Not much fanfare, few large tailgate parties and media coverage, just a true love for the game. In most cases, I would prefer to watch these teams play over the pomp and circumstance that surrounds the entire BCS.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    July 15, 2013 9:54 p.m.

    I totally agree with FatMan86. Not a lot of effort is placed into the rankings of FCS. I think Weber State and SUU were not very far off last year. SUU should have beaten Montana State last year except their kicker missed some easy field goals. Weber State took Eastern Washington to the brink but had a turnover on their way to the winning score. Each week is a dog fight in the Big Sky. I still think Weber State has a little more to build up after the bailout by John L. Smith, but I think Coach Sear and Phlugrad will get that program turned around by next season or the season after. The new training facility and the new coaching will have this team on the rise really soon. It will be fun to see the action on the field instead of the talk...only a month away before kickoff!

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    July 15, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    This is the norm most years. It's a direct function of being the #4 and #5 teams in a market that is fixated on BYU and Utah. It's much harder for the so called "experts" to predict anything at this level because they don't do much homework on it. A few years back Weber St was picked near the bottom 3rd of the Big Sky, and went all the way to the FCS quarterfinals.

    I'm not saying that will be the case this year, I'm just saying that it's much harder to predict. Regardless I'll enjoy watching all of the Utah schools. Only 40 days or so til we get real games!!!

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 15, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Hopefully we can suprise a few teams. We have beaten number 1 in the country before. Looking foward to another season.

    @Down Under

    Dead on about BYU. But don't put to much faith in those aggies of yours. Remember what you lost at the end of last season.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    Well, maybe they can pull out some unexpected wins and rise up a few slots. If not at least they have some good company since Utah is also at the bottom of their conference.

    Sure is great to be a Coug and Aggie.