Logan father warned gored son not to run with the bulls

University of Utah student among 3 impaled in Pamplona, Spain

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  • Disturb the comfortable Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    Unbelievable. Not what happened to Patrick; I'm referring to the vitriol contained in these comments. Interesting to note that the most venomous comments come from my fellow Utahans. Oh yes, we're really the nicest people on Earth.

    It is precisely this attitude of convenient rectitude that infuriates me about our state's culture. You mean, little people snidely taking your shot at Patrick for no good reason... I guess you have nothing better to do than scoff at others' pain and misfortune. I know for a fact that if you met him in person, you would behave in a manner VERY different than you have here.

    I shouldn't have read through the comments... because now that I have, I have a clearer idea of what my "community-minded, friendly, and concerned" neighbors say behind closed doors and think underneath apparently supportive exteriors.

    I would have been surprised to find posts like this on a pornographic YouTube channel. Amazing what people will say when they're anonymous. On the Deseret News, no less... Wow.

    I'm sending this and shutting down my account. I won't further interact with hostile little minds of such dismal caliber.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 16, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    Chris B, how many Y students are that stupid? Some (can you say Rock Canyon?). You don't have to run with the bulls to experience life. Pretty sure that is not on my bucket list. Experiencing life doesn't mean that you have to be an idiot while doing it. I went and watched a debate in the U.S. Senate last week. My ears didn't melt listening to Dick Durban. Thought Lamar Alexander was entertaining.

  • mominthetrenches South Jordan, Utah
    July 16, 2013 10:16 a.m.

    This ritual always makes me ill when I read about it. I am not a huge animal person, and I do hope these human victims recover, but the bulls are ultimately the victims in the end. Killing and torturing animals for entertainment or sport is ethically wrong on so many levels.

  • mhilton Lancaster, CA
    July 15, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    While it's too bad he got hurt, if I were his parent, I'd just leave him there to recover on his own. Why spend all that money to go to Spain when he wouldn't listen to them in the first place? Maybe he'll learn that his parents actually know something and be a bit more humble next time. He definitely flunked this class!

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    July 14, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    He's going to want a nice thick steak once he feels better.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    July 14, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    Typical ute...duh!

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    July 14, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    An experience he'll never forget. Guy is pretty smart, despite all the haters. He is getting some real life experiences and doing things that most in Utah only dream about or see in movies. He was one of the unlucky ones. Probably not a day to wear your school colors.

    Here's to a speedy recovery so you can tell your kids and grand kids about it!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    July 14, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Wow--sure a lot of anger and hatred expressed here. I don't remember the kid or his family asking for your permission or your sympathy. I despise the whole spectacle of bull fighting, but c'mon people. Twenty years from now, this kid will have a great cocktail hour story to tell. While, at the same time--you can tell your grandkids how you used to sit around writing about how stooopid some people are.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    July 13, 2013 11:07 p.m.

    He'll have a great story to tell for the rest of his life. I hope it isn't too short.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    Unlike bYu students, at least he had the intestinal fortitude to give it a go. You can't be afraid to take chances and try new things--experience the world around us! Yes, the Y says the world is their campus, but again--how many Y kids would have the guts to try something with this much history and tradition behind it?

  • MoJules Florissant, MO
    July 13, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    I wouldn't listen to my mother when I was younger, and dang, my child doesn't listen to me and her child doesn't listen to her. When will we learn? When we go through all those hard knocks and figure it out. Hope he will be OK and listen to his dad next time.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    July 13, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    He was wearing the U of U colors. :) I'm sorry, I had to put that one in there.

  • SanAntonioreader San Antonio, TX
    July 13, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    Bad choices, bad outcomes. Pretty simple, huh?

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    July 13, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    On the other hand, at least he can say he was there! He did it!

    Life is not a spectator sport...

  • Primary Chorister Salt Lake City, UT
    July 13, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    Wishing Patrick a full recovery and best wishes to his family in dealing with the medical expenses.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    July 13, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    Quick, get him to the US so he can get the medical care he deserves, and we can pay for it because it falls under a pre-condition.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    July 13, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    You can fix stupid. I bet he never does this again.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 13, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    Forrest Gump said it best, "Stupid is as stupid does." Remind me never to hire this kid to design any building that I would own. Parents some times ought to be listened to.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    July 13, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    Next time, put on your bullet-proof vest. At least you'll have your vitals protected. Apparent, you can do without a spleen, but most of the other stuff critical.

  • AZJazzFan Gold Canyon, az
    July 13, 2013 12:11 a.m.

    I served my mission in Spain and have traveled there. I love the culture but have no respect for matadors and silly people who think they are "brave" to run in Pamplona. A bullfight is slow torture to the bull, and by the time the matador is facing it the bull has long darts hanging from its back and previous to that a guy on a horse stabs it with a lance between its shoulder blades. It is amazing the bull can survive that. This tourist may laugh it off and enjoy the publicity of his stupidity. Despite it all, I hope he has a full recovery and becomes wiser and does not profit from his mistake.

  • johnhenry APO, AP
    July 12, 2013 11:31 p.m.

    You've heard of accidents, right? Well, some things aren't accidents, you just know they're going to happen. I've taken to referring to those as inevitables. Getting gored while running with the bulls in Pamplona is an inevitable.

  • Leo Femedlers El Paso, TX
    July 12, 2013 11:13 p.m.

    If I was that young man I'd be ordering steak from a Pamplona restaurant!

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    July 12, 2013 10:16 p.m.

    I got gored by an Antzy Texas Longhorn cow. Going to move it into chute to vaccinate it and dehorn it as tub area got too crowded came back toward me and I did not make it out of way fast enough. Barely missed everything. Family Doctor sent me to hospital there for a day. Staples and touching there hurt worse than the actual goring.

    For running of the Bulls I would not do that myself. I been in pen several times with bulls leave them alone they will leave you alone. Be on lookout for them though. I know a bullfighter at rodeos, Dangerous job glad they do that all rodeo to protect the cowboys. Barrel man real interesting.

  • The Sensible Middle Bountiful, UT
    July 12, 2013 9:59 p.m.

    Poor kid. He had to of realized this was a possibility.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    July 12, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    Real men of genius.

  • Clloyd Kaysville, UT
    July 12, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    Representing the State of Utah in Pamplona. I'm proud of you. But listen to mom and dad next time. They know best.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    "The bulls that take part each morning are invariably killed by matadors in evening bull fights, and their meat is served up in Pamplona's restaurants."


    Well, it's nice to know they at least have a chance to exact some peremptory revenge on a species whose intelligence is so often overwhelmed by their insensitivity (stupidity).

  • windsor City, Ut
    July 12, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    md said: "You can't fix stupid."

    article: "The bulls that take part each morning are invariably killed by matadors in evening bull fights."

    Unfortunately, you can't fix purpose-less, wanton, gratuitous, senseless cruelty either.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    July 12, 2013 6:17 p.m.

    I wonder if he got to see NY Jet coach Rex Ryan...

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    July 12, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    How long with it take Chris B to spin this as an anti-BYU story?

    The young man may have a high Intelligence Quotient but I question his Wisdom Quotient.
    Vernon Law once said that experience is the worst teacher; it gives the test before teaching the lesson.
    Another once said that experience is the best teacher because it does not allow dropouts.

    They were both right.

  • md Cache, UT
    July 12, 2013 5:21 p.m.

    You can't fix stupid.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    July 12, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    This horrible injury MUST be someone else's fault! Quick- find a lawyer and help this brave young genius recover compensation for the negligence of others.

    Common sense is an uncommon virtue.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 12, 2013 5:16 p.m.

    With National Health Care, do I have to help pay the medical bills for stupidity?

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 12, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Bulls are actually not violent when they are treated properly. If they can move away from you to escape, they will. It is when they have nowhere to go, that is when they get violent as a last resort. These animals are tortured in a very cowardly manner, so those who participate shouldn't be surprised when a 1,500 pound animal gets mad and fights back.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    July 12, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    these are the kind of bulls that the rodeo clowns use for their show or sometimes the word used is fight however, they are not hurt just toyed with. These bulls are small, fast, and aggressive, If you are going to run down a narrow street in front of them, what do you expect. Still, I hope he recovers.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 12, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    Given that it's a big show in which the bulls will be slowly tortured and gored to death, I have very little sympathy for the participants when the bull gets one of them.

    July 12, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    Nonsense has a price. At least he won't be setting around wondering what he did on vacation.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    July 12, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    I can bet you that as soon as he recovers, he'll say he wants to do it again! At which point, by the way, we'll see if he's smart or he's just full of bull...

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 12, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    what ? Bulls are just friendly cows aren't they?

  • Mark from Montana Aurora, CO
    July 12, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    Mama always said, 'Stupid is as stupid does.'

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 12, 2013 3:38 p.m.

    Nice relaxing vacation to Spain huh? Maybe next year he can go swimming in South Africa with Great White Sharks during feeding hours. Stupid is as stupid does.

  • Trys Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2013 3:36 p.m.

    I love the following quote: "You cannot drink poison to satisfy your thirst and not expect to get sick." KSL If one is going to run with the bulls, one should expect he just might get hurt.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    What a smart kid