Getting to 10: What BYU, Utah and Utah State must do to win 10 games this fall

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 16, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    Hard to win ten games if they're playing each other.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 15, 2013 8:19 p.m.

    My bad... I have to correct my last post, the Big Bad PAC12 only has teams with Dificulty of Schedules rated in the Bottom Half of the FBS Schedule Difficulty Rankings (not 7 as previously reported)... Or their is only 6 teams in the PAC12 with easier schedules than BYU...

    Oh and Middle Tennessee was actually 8-4 last year, not 8-3... They did have a victory over ACC Divisional Champion Georgia Tech however...

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 15, 2013 7:56 p.m.


    I'm starting to get into this, so let me keep going with a couple of facts:

    According to Marc Lawrences Playbook for 2013, Utah is rated to have the 20th most difficult schedule in the land... Virginia, Houston, Boise Stae, and Nevada are all rated with tougher schedules(and all are BYU opponents this year)...

    Another interesting note on schedules... BYU is in the middle of the pack with the 55th most difficult schedule... However, UCLA, Oregon, Washington State, and Arizona State are picked to have schedules that are in the bottom third as far as "difficulty" goes. You can add Arizona and USC to the other 5 and the Big Bad PAC12 have 7 of the least difficult FBS Schedules in 2013 according to Lawrence... (Two things these 7 schools have in common is that they all play Utah this year and all 7 are rated with schedules less difficult than BYU)...

    One could logically argue from this information that BYU's strength of schedule is actually hurt by having a 2013 game with Utah on it while Utah's strength of Schedule is enhanced by having BYU on it... It kind of makes me chuckle a little.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 15, 2013 7:32 p.m.


    Here we go again... Who are all the patsies that BYU is playing besides Utah and maybe ISU?

    Is it Virginia (who is rated as having the toughest schedule in the land) or Georgia Tech (who won their division of the ACC last year)?

    Perhaps it's Nevada with 7 straight years of bowl games and a bowl victory over AZ last year (BTW, how did Utah do against AZ at home last year??? LOL), or maybe it's Middle Tennessee who is suppose to win the C-USA this year and was 8-3 last year)?

    Perhaps it is USU who beat the Utes last year and lost only 2 games all year (7 points from going undefeated)? or perhaps it's Houston who went 12-1 a couple of years ago with wins over UCLA and Penn State (before Penn State's issues blew up).

    I'm guessing that you aren't refering to Texas, Wisconsin, ND or Boise State in your list of patsies... But I could be wrong...

    So tell us... Who are the Patsies again?

    BTW, the experts have Utah winning 3 games next year (and no, BYU is not one of them)... a 6-6 season? That's rich.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 15, 2013 12:20 a.m.

    Then how can you take any of your fellow aggies predictions with any credibility AgVikBronc? USC is a different calibar. Do you dispute that? Utah will not be caught of gaurd this year. Do you dispute that? BYU is just better. Do you dispute that? And what about Boise State? They are the top of the WAC 2.0 and in my recent memory USU hasn't beaten them. And most important, Andersen is gone. So who do you want to believe, your fellow aggies who don't know what they are talking about, or the person who is presenting real facts?

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    July 14, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    In order for the Cougars to win ten games they will have to have some pure luck. For the Aggies, they will have to play even better than last year...I'm not sure I see that happening.

    For the Utes to win ten games...they will have to sneak back into the MWC, and hope no one notices!

    Good luck to all the Locals.

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    July 14, 2013 12:39 a.m.


    You are right about somethings. I guess every dog has his day. Utah will not lose. You are wrong however about BYU. They will beat you again. BSU will win. USC will destroy you. And I'm confused. Is it Air Force or Air Forece?

  • TallNSkinny43 Germantown, MD
    July 12, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    I agree with Sambone, I would include USC in the group of tough games, even in a down year.


    WAC was higher ranked this last year than the MWC was. MWC is no deeper. They will play 2 good teams, Boise and either SJSU or Air forece,one average team in SJSU or Air force, and a whole bunch of lower quality teams.

    I think they will beat BYU in Logan, and take one of the other three, probably the Boise St game (home field) or a surprise against USC. Utah will be out for revenge and I think USU will probably lose to them.

    If they play to their potential, I think USU will be 10-2. If they don't it will be 8-4 or 7-5.

  • Sambonethegreat Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2013 1:09 p.m.


    I mostly agree with your predictions, with a few caveats.

    You are spot on with BYU. As for Utah State, I think they need to win 2 of these 3 games to have a shot at a 10-win season: Utah, Boise, BYU. And I'm worried about USC, too.

    And while I understand the down attitude about Utah, to be totally fair to the Utes, they were in all but 2 of their games last season. I think they can improve. I wouldn't be surprised to see them back in a bowl game.

  • BYU>utah Provo, UT
    July 12, 2013 11:19 a.m.

    BYU has the best chance to get to 10 wins, but with their tough schedule they won't get there. Losses to Texas, Wisconsin, Notre Dame and possibly Boise State will prevent them from getting to 10 wins.
    Utah State won't get to 10 wins unless they win at least one of these three games- Boise, BYU or utah.
    utah has no shot at 10 wins. They have an outside chance at 6 or 7 wins. Possible and/or probable losses to BYU, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona State, Arizona, Oregon State and possibly Utah State will hurt them. Heck, they've had a hard time beating colorado the past two years.
    My prediction: BYU 8-4, Utah State 8-4, utah 5-7

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 12, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    BYU will get humbled a bit this year due to a tougher schedule but will still make it to a bowl due to the remaining patsies on their schedule.

    Utah will most likely miss a bowl game or slide into one at 6-6. It's just a tall order right now when they have one of the toughest schedules in the country while fielding a team that's still building it's Pac 12 depth and having to fill a lot of holes.

    USU fans are going to be disappointed after having such a great year last year. Losses to Utah, BYU and Boise St will already have them below 10 wins. Count on more losses than that now that they're in a deeper conference.

    We should all support our teams like crazy, but if you want to follow a team that will make some national noise you should look outside the state this year.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    I don't think any of the in-state teams this year will reach ten wins. It would be cool if they did though.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 12, 2013 8:00 a.m.

    Mark it down, usu will be the only one to win 10 thus year in Utah. And it won't be easy.