Utah Jazz: Wild day as Paul Millsap, DeMarre Carroll leave; Jazz make big trade with Warriors

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 7, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    @joe5 the clippers stayed in the lottery because they drafted terrible...think about it...the Spurs were built from the ground up...they drafted Duncan Parker Ginobili...i know that not everyone can do what the spurs did...but it is worth a try...because this is the only way we are going to be competitive...no free agent superstar would come here anyway....so why not build it through the draft...if burke leaves...i think neto is more than a capable insurance policy...

  • sptfyre MAPLETON, UT
    July 7, 2013 2:33 p.m.

    The Clippers stayed in the lottery every year from drafting the wrong guys and making the wrong moves, not because they tried to build through the draft.

    Don't make comments without any knowledge they did not let green or harden go elsewhere, they traded them both. They did not want to give harden a max contract, and traded Green for a defensive presence (they won that trade).

    I do see the Thunder winning the championship with their current roster. They went to the championship 2 years ago and probably would have this year if Westbrook didn't get hurt. Not only that but Durant is only 24 years old, he hasn't even reached his prime!

    Why don't the Jazz have time with Favors or Hayward? They are both young and will be restricted free agents, they can't just sign elsewhere unless the jazz refuse to match the offer. You also described the best possible situation for the jazz in several years. Having too many good players that they aren't able to pay them all and having to decide which ones to pay, that is a situation every team in the NBA would WANT to be in.

  • milner Centerfield Sanpete, UT
    July 7, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    I don`t see how three washed up players are going to help! I guess we will see!

  • Veracity Morgan, UT
    July 7, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    No...not Carroll! If you wanted to show the young guys how a pro plays with heart and determination, you do not lose Carroll. Wow!

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    July 7, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    Listen up everyone. I too am a little disappointed by millsap leavi.g and thethe gs players we acquired. However, does no one remember that the Jazx offered millsap a contract extension last season. Millsap declined. So millsap left the Jazz. He wanted the bigger contract and knew that Favors and Kanter are the future. The Jazz made a house visit to him. I may not like the moves, but heck, its much better to see that the FO is doing something unlike the last 10 yrs.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 7, 2013 12:20 a.m.

    Building through the draft takes time, just what the Jazz don't have with Hayward and Favors. They will want more money or a chance to shine brighter. After they leave, you're back where you started. So you continue rebuilding but then Kanter and Burke leave.

    The Clippers drafted in the lottery every year but their players bolted as soon as they could. After wasting 20 years rebuilding around draft choices, they changed their approach. Now they are relevant.

    OKC built through the draft but eventually they had to pay their stars so they let Green and Harden go elsewhere. How has that worked out. I don't see them winning a championship with their current team, do you?

    Do you really believe the Jazz can still afford Favors, Hayward, Kanter, Burke, and a 2014 stud four years from now? After 2-3 years rebuilding, some of our guys will be gone. Just like Green and Harden, the Jazz will have to face financial facts and let someone go. Even if it's not for the money, somebody (think Harden) will want to have a brighter light on themselves instead of being in the shadow of his teammates.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 6, 2013 9:00 p.m.


    you already have a Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili...you always draft outside the lottery...and you expect Dennis Lindsey to draft a superstar?....clearly...you would get players that would complement the guys you consider as the anchor/core of your team...come on...be realistic here...but i understand how you feel you are frustrated because the Jazz would not be in the playoffs again next season...you do know that we really don't get superstars via free agency...if we do get a player from free agency...they become all-stars here because the opportunity is there (example: Carlos Boozer)...i wont expect them to contend in the next 2-3 years...i am willing to give Dennis Lindsey a chance...i think everyone deserves...Corbin however is extending his chances...but i am willing to give him one more...even though i am adamant about it

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 6, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    I can't wait to see the new young Jazz when the season begins. Do any of you remember last season how often the Jazz starters would dig a hole and then the bench would bring us back. That's one of the reasons I would get frustrated with Corbin for not experimenting more with giving the core 4 more minutes than they got. Some will argue that the Jazz bench would bring us back against the other teams bench. Sometimes that was true but many times our bench would outplay the other teams starters too. I'm not saying we will be real good but someone here posted that the over under for Jazz wins would be 20 games. I would bet we win more than 20.

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    July 6, 2013 6:10 p.m.

    fortydam how do you know that they offered millsap what he was worth and he bolted for more money? 1. they said they made no offer 2. they couldn't offer him anything the first move they made was take golden states trash out at a tune of 28 mil. for what expiring contracts next year so what they already had 7 this year. this is the year to sign players and get better. not sign another teams trash and put it off for a year. they got a couple of draft picks whoopi golden state has a good team so the draft picks will be low. be 4 or 5 years before you even know what you got by then favors kanter gordon gone somewere else just like williams, boozer matthews, manyard jefferson. millsap carroll. this is two years after golden state tanked to get utah's pick in the draft. now they reward them by taking out their trash to the tune of 28 mil so they could sign a good player that the jazz should have been trying to sign.everybody been hollering for the young guys they have been playing against second teamers not exatly lighting it up

  • sptfyre MAPLETON, UT
    July 6, 2013 6:09 p.m.


    Did you not understand your own comment? You said take Duncan and Parker off the spurs and what are they? Take the best players off any team and what are they? Not very good!

    But I'll continue with your new argument. You're right the Jazz do have to do it another way. They have to build a team through the draft, which is exactly what they are doing and what you are complaining about. No top free agent is going to sign here, but if you're able to draft a star and put a quality team around them most will stay. Garnett would have stayed in Minnesota if they were competitive, same with lebron, yes there are those that leave either way such as Shaq who left a good team.

    What you're arguing is the Jazz need to go sign players like Brewer, Calderon, and Pekovic. How would they make the Jazz contenders? You argue nobody wants to play for Utah, yet also argue the Jazz need to sign free agents

    How do the Jazz not go for championships? They paid 3millon to get Gobert, and go in the luxury if it means competing

  • IDJazz12 Pocatello, ID
    July 6, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    I don't mind Big Al going. He would get triple teamed and he was still going to try to take it up. I would have liked to see Milsap stay as you cannot teach the work ethic he brings to the game.
    I do like how aggressive Lindsay is being but your trades and drafts are only as good as your coach and coaching staff!!!! I just do not have a lot of confidence in Ty in developing players!!!!

  • Live-In-AZ ,
    July 6, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    I think the front office understands we have to be bad (for 2-3 years) before we can get better; much better. Just making the playoffs isn't good enough year after year. This team needs to build through the draft similar to the Malone/Stockton era. Personally, I like the move to pick up future draft picks to be added to our own. The cherry on top is having a whole bunch of cap space again next year, and probably the year after that. I know one thing, I'm happy to be in the position we are and prefer watching the young guns (Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burkes and Burke) play (win or not) than being a LA fan with no foundation for the future.

    Way to go front office! I'm on board and can see a plan being put into action!

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    sptfyre: You don't get it, do you. The Jazz are never going to have LeBron and Wade or Jordan and Pippen. They won't get Kobe and Shaq and they won't get Pierce and Garnett. The Jazz have to do it differently than other teams. The reason those teams can do it is because of three things:

    - Those teams are willing to spend over the cap.
    - Those locations are meccas for free agents.
    - Role players flock to those teams at a discount for the opportunity to play with premium players.

    And it ain't gonna happen through the draft. Jordan was in his seventh season when he won his first championship. LeBron was on his second team. Shaq was on his second team. Garnett was on his second team.

    Those that won early in their careers did so because they came into a team already loaded with star talent. Magic had Kareem. Bird had McHale.

    The Jazz have to do it differently. It was hard enough to get free agents when they were good. Who wants to play here now? Nobody. Because the Jazz have established that they don't play for championships.

  • VeraLouise Sandy, UT
    July 6, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    Bye Paul, Bye Junkyard Dog! I'm way sad and will follow your careers. Wishing you both much success except when you play back here against our Jazz. Now let's get this next season rolling. I can't wait! I am in total withdrawals.

    Go Jazzboys in '13/'14!!!

  • sptfyre MAPLETON, UT
    July 6, 2013 4:30 p.m.


    "You may think those guys are more than role players but, honestly, how far do they get without Duncan and Parker? 1st round and out?"

    How good is miami without lebron and wade? How may championships do the bulls win without jordan and pippin? Take away shaw and kobe, and kobe and gasol how good were the lakers? Take away the top players on any team and how far do they get?

    Then you could add everyone of those free agents you described and the jazz would still be mediocre at best, and mediocre at best for multiple years as those guys would have multi year contracts. If you are fine with a first round playoff loss every year then fine, overpay for average players and remain mediocre, but if you want to be good you have to take calculated risks. Having 3 expiring contracts sets them up with even more money in next years free agency market which is better than this years crop. Not signing jefferson or millsap gives the young guys a chance, they traded DWill for them why not see what they've got?

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    sky2k1: Look back to late June and you'll see my ideas. I would target proven contributors that are not 8-figure salaries.

    1) Toxic front-loaded offer to Pekovic. With Favors, Kanter, Pekovic, I'd challenge anybody to score in the paint.
    2) Other options: Hickson, Landry, Mosgov.

    1) Corey Brewer (defensive stopper with dramatically improved offense) and/or OJ Mayo (scorer who defends).
    2) Other options: Redick, Korver, Belinelli.
    3) Bench: Carroll (or take a shot on a guy like Xavier Henry).

    PG (Burke starts; need veteran who can log minutes when necessary):
    1) Calderon
    2) Other options: Devin Harris, Udrih, even Robinson (gulp!).
    3) Emergency: Tinsley (more of a coach than a player).

    Possible roster:
    Post: Favors, Kanter, Pekovic, Gobert, Evans
    Wings: Hayward, Burks, Brewer, Mayo, Marvin Williams (injured)
    PG: Burke, Calderon, Tinsley

    This team could compete even though there is not a $10+M guy on the roster. They are much stronger defensively than last year and could match last year's offense. I would think this team would compete for home court in the playoffs.

  • Squintz Morgan, UT
    July 6, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    I am shocked at the negative response from fans on here. The Warriors deal is a win win. Even if all the of those players don't give you any production, it's only one year. And you get 2 unprotected first round draft picks?! Are you kidding me, that is awesome!! It hurts a little to lose millsap, but he turned into a whiney diva and im not the least bit worried about losing Jefferson. It does hurt to lose Carroll, he was my favorite player last year, but the jazz future over all is so bright. They have tons of cap space, and loads of young talent. There might be one bad year but it's not like they have been good the last few years anyway. I just don't get the criticism of some fans, I am nothing but giddy about the jazz future!!

  • sky2k1 Provo, UT
    July 6, 2013 12:45 p.m.


    Your list is mostly accurate, I would only argue that leonard has a chance to be great, and splitter is a good post defender.

    And you're absolutely right that he wasn't the GM and that he didn't make the final calls, but he learned under a great GM and saw how to run/make a team. Not only that, but I highly doubt it was RC Buford doing all the work while the assistants followed, just taking notes. Lindsey and others were doing work and scouting and helping buford make the decisions.

    I've read your other posts and you have no good solutions to the jazz's problem. We can't get top free agents like you've stated. So to get better we have to do so through the draft. Drafting between 14-18 won't do that for you these days.

    I am curious to know what you would have done if you were GM of the Jazz. Who would you have signed/gone after?

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    July 6, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    Having Malone train the young bigs is fine but Malone would get whipped in todays NBA. Of course we will wait to see the final outcome of the trades that will play out over the next weeks but the Jazz need to win at some point. I can see developing 2-3 players but bringing an entire NBA-d league team to other NBA venues is a recipe for disaster.

    If not anything else this new young team will develop a tendency to tolerate losing because that is all the management has set them up for.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    July 6, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    I'd like to leave a message for Demarre Carroll ---- hoping that he or one of his friends will read this & share with him --- have to say many many Jazz fans will miss you DC --- you showed heart, skill, and professionalism that is so hard to find in any professional league nowadays.

    So sad to see you go & play for another team, & hoping that someday you will be back in SLC.

    It feels like a punch in the gut to hear you're leaving, but we wish you all the best in whatever you do, wherever you go.

    You are The Best. God bless you and keep you in the palm of His hand.

    --- Speaking for your many fans & friends here in the Intermountain West.

    The Dr

    Vaya con Dios.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    Man in Charge:

    First, I was responding to those who use Lindsey's term of service with the Spurs as convincing evidence that he will be the Jazz' savior. As you said, he was assistant GM and did not make the final decisions but that doesn't seem to make a difference to those who want to believe he knows what he is doing.

    Second: You may think those guys are more than role players but, honestly, how far do they get without Duncan and Parker? 1st round and out? They are fine players but not franchise players. Every one of them will need to play with a star or two in order to win a championship.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    July 6, 2013 11:45 a.m.


    If you watched the NBA finals this year, you would know that Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green, Gary Neal, and Cory Joseph are way more than role players. You keep forgetting that the Spurs usually pick 30 and 60 in the draft it's not like they are picking in the lottery. Secondly, the last I heard RC Buford was the spurs GM while Lindsey was there. It's not like they somehow turned everything over to Lindsey while he was there.

  • Man in Charge Washington, DC
    July 6, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    The Jazz need to tank this year. Getting Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker in this draft can make the difference in getting to the playoffs or winning a championship. Tanking works when you have a plan. Just ask OKC, Golden State or San Antonio.

  • The Final Word Alpine, UT
    July 6, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Lots of ignorant fans acting like we dumped Millsap.

    Millsap was the one who would not sign the extension. He would have gotten another year and nearly as much money/ year (more in total) if he had re-signed with the Jazz.

    Now Millsap takes a bigger per year payday to go and play behind Horford? If he plays along side him they will be the shortest front court in the NBA.

    Atlanta is a stupid franchise too. Look no further than what they overpaid for Korver. Colossal bad signing/deal. The dude can't guard a fire hydrant or create his own shot.

    There is a reason franchises are perennial losers. Those contracts and decisions have "name desperation" all over them. We have to get someone with a name regardless of whether the deal is bad or good seems to be their philosophy.

    Throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

  • sg newhall, CA
    July 6, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    Maybe Jerry Sloan knows something we don't. Jefferson and Milsap gone? Unbelievable. Maybe it will work, but if not, then this team will flounder in the basement for the next 5 years (building seasons). I'm still NOT impressed with the front office and I never thought Corbin was or is the right coach.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2013 11:19 a.m.

    For all you Lindsey fans, here are the facts. The San Antonio Spurs won championships in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007. Five days after winning their last championship, they hired Dennis Lindsey. Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, and Matt Bonner were on that team. Over the next five years, the Spurs went out of the playoffs in Conference Finals (carryover from the inherited players), 1st round, 2nd round, 1st round, and Conference Finals (which was enough to get a job with the Jazz.

    When he left the Spurs, they had the four players mentioned above. Lindsey's acquisitions which were:
    - James Anderson
    - DeJuan Blair
    - Derrick Byars
    - Eric Dawson
    - Justin Dentmon
    - Boris Diaw
    - Ike Diogu
    - TJ Ford
    - Danny Green
    - Stephen Jackson
    - Richard Jefferson
    - Corey Joseph
    - Kawhi Leonard
    - Patrick Mills
    - Gary Neal
    - Tiago Splitter
    - Malcolm Thomas

    I see only role players in that list. Not a single blue chipper in the lot.

    Remember, the won a championship five days before he was hired. They got to the Finals the season after he left. During his five years, they struggled in the playoffs.

    Convince me why we should have confidence if he architects the future of the Jazz.

  • holt56 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    Here's what we all need to remember. These players are not our best friends. They don't owe us any loyalty. The bottom line is, they will play where they are needed, and for the most money they can make. It's called making a living. Granted, they make a ridiculous amount of money, but they take what the market gives them. Wouldn't you? Let's support the Jazz as a team, and not get so hung up on certain players. The NBA is a business, and they entertain us with a game. That's it.

  • GK Willington Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    re: doc33 & forgetyourself

    You can tell Jerry & The Anti-Chuck Barkley are back. Rather than go w/ a bunch of athletes in the 6'6" to 6'8" range, they are going back to the future again. Tell me how did it work out w/ Deron W & Boozer.

    Golden St in the Tim Hardaway/C Mullins era as wellas the Suns recently (Nash, Stoudemire, etc...) were what make hoops enjoyable and entertaining.

    With the Sloan philosophy, you might as well watch soccer or golf??

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    "We got two future first round picks from a franchise that is notoriously bad without having to give anything up."

    Just one problem... Golden State made the conference semifinals this past season and arguably got better this year (since this salary dump was to free up space to sign Igoudala). That 2014 pick will likely be around 20th barring an injury to Curry.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    July 6, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    This will be an interesting season and it appears obvious that the front office is already looking past next year. I believe that Favors and Hayward will have expiring contracts as well. I don't expect Favors to stay. You never know what the target venue really is. The key word here is "venue". Average attendance was down by 1000 from the 19.9 capacity. That is the key issue here. It is already obvious that Burke is a fan favorite. That is what the team needs to build on. It is all about the intangible that Malone and Stockton brought. It is called chemistry and you don't know what it is until you see it. The Jazz have to look for it. It is elusive but it is there.

  • Ryan90 Bluffdale, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    The Jazz need to trade Jefferson a 2017 first round pick to the Hawks for Josh Smith and Jason Teague. Maybe they could do a sign and trade with the Hawks so they can get Smith \Teague for at least 3-5 years. Or even trade Andris Biedrins to the Rockets for Asik or send him to Portland for J.J. Hickson via sign an trade. They may have to also throw in a second round pick for Hickson.

  • live_simply Tooele, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Some of the people on here posting that the jazz are the laughting stock of the NBA. Just dont get the game anymore. It not about win just one title anymore it about how many you can win in a row. And with the Jazz getting rid of Jefferson and Paul. That free up the jazz in doing that. And building that. We have never really done this. But look at the stockton/malone days. They built those days up. Starting way back when they draft both of them. And it got us to back to back finals and tha playoff ever year. That is what we are tring to get back to. I am a fan that can deal with the growing pains for better years to come. Way to go Jazz FO you final did what it take to really be a true froce in the NBA. That why the spurs have those titles. We have that guy in our FO. GO JAZZ.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    July 6, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    I'm not a fan of the "let's be awful for a few years while we let the young guns grow into their roles. Look, the young guns have had an awful lot of opportunity over the last couple of years and they've done well, but not well enough to unseat Paul Milsap or Al Jefferson. Many things can go wrong when you are putting all of your eggs in one basket. An injury, an attitude problem or a player who has just flat out peaked at a very young age. We should have retained either Milsap or Jefferson and in no way let a proven gamer like DeMarre Carrol go.I sincrely doubt that his desire and passion for the game are going to be matched by any of three "one and done" players. I'll always pull for the Jazz, but losing your two best players and your bench player with the biggest heart in one day is sort of a kick in the stomach. Oh well, all you "dump Milsap and Jefferson and let the young 'un's be stars" fans? The day is yours.

  • scodyshootfight KC, MO
    July 6, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    Contrary to what most people here are saying,this yet another phenomenal, smooth move by Dennis Lyndsey. No one can argue that we were going NOWHERE with Big Al and Millsap. I love Millsap, but he proved the last few years that he is not valuable when he has to carry the load. His value was when he was on the bench, but he sadly didn't want to be paid like a bench player.

    We now get to play more talented bigs and finally develop them. We got two future first round picks from a franchise that is notoriously bad without having to give anything up. This is a stellar move and I'm so excited for this front office that seems more willing to wheel and deal than we have been in the past.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    It seems to me that the Jazz are embracing their true status as a AAA farm club to the NBA's bigger market teams. I imagine David Stern (or rather his replacement), and the league marketing folks are elated that they don't have to worry about a Jazz playoff run and the resulting low TV ratings anytime soon.

    Just keep developing those young players Jazz. New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA will have roster holes to fill in 2016 and beyond. Their scouts will be watching.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    July 6, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    I don't see the negatives that some above see regarding next year. I have no doubt that Malone will help Kanter some and Lindsay said in an interview that Malone has already helped Favors a lot in just a few sessions together. Kanter and Favors, along with Evans and Gobert, will do just fine next year. The front line will be better defensively than last year, and I think the doubters will be pleasantly surprised by the improvement in Kanter's jumpshot and Favor's and Kanter's ever expanding offensive repetoire. Add in the improvement of Hayward and Burk's offensive games and the high-motor, determined Trey Burke and it's going to be fun. Good luck to two of the best competitors Jazzland has ever seen in Millsap and Carroll. I thought they would sign Carroll, too, Kakashi.

  • meworkingman PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    I know that Jazz fans aren't used to full-out rebuilding years because the organization has never done it. But it would have been completely stupid to hold on to either Big Al or Millsap. Either player would've demanded playing time that would interfere with the development of the young bigs. Plus either player could've gotten us a few more wins - which we *definitely* don't want this year. We want to lose a lot this year in order to be in position to snag a top pick in next year's loaded draft. With a nice pick or two (thanks GS) and a few key free-agent pick-ups (we'll be stacked again next year with cap space) we can be contending in a couple of years. If the FO rebuilt like they usually do, we could expect to wallow in mediocrity for many years and probably lose one or more of the young guns. This way of rebuilding is a bit risky but should yield results *much* faster.

    I, for one, will be attending more Jazz games this year and I won't be looking for a win - just steady improvement from the fab-5.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    July 6, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    The Jazz offered Sap what they thought he was worth, he walked for more money and both he and Carroll are now overpaid. I would have liked both back, but I'm tired of the Jazz over paying players. I trust in Lindsay, and if this is how they did it for the Spurs, then we can only wait and see. If next years draft is that good, then these moves make perfect sense. bigirish, did you really want to see players walk to the rim around Jefferson for another season? For every 10 points that guy scored he gave up 20. Like I've said in every post, if they don't come up with a good floor general, it doesn't matter who's coaching or playing. I think good teams are only as good as their point guards. Good point guards can make bad players look good, and last years miserable debacle was a direct result in Mo, and Watsons play. Tinsley did the best he could for a ninety year old. If they are taking contracts that expire to let the youth play, then at least get a good point guard to mentor the rookies.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 6, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    Good job Jazz front office. You have officially put the jazz as the laughing stock of the league for this coming season. Letting Jefferson and Millsap walk is not acceptable. The players we got from Golden State are terrible. It is always next year, next year, next year. How bout we win this year for once?

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 6, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    Man...its going to a rough 2-3 years...i'm ready for the wait...how bout you guys?

  • Silly Rabbit Small Town, USA, UT
    July 6, 2013 7:08 a.m.

    Wow....... Jazz fans this is new ground we are walking on, I don't know what to think. No Millsap! I wish him the best he will be missed............Man this is what most of us have been screaming for... PLAY THE YOUNG ONES!!! well it will be interesting to say the least. I don't think the front office is done though..... if so it might be a fun and sometimes scary run...... I can't wait..... but man am I ever so scared......... But its just a game! life goes on for the rest of us.

  • Vanilla12 Batavia, IL
    July 6, 2013 6:48 a.m.

    I live near Chicago and was introduced to Paul Millsap after a Bucks game.

    He was incredibly patient and kind. We must have talked for 15 minutes and he signed items for each of my kids and some other families. he posed for pictures and joked around with everyone. He was a true class act and a player I am very sad to see go.

    Good luck Paul.

  • bigirish OREM, UT
    July 6, 2013 6:05 a.m.

    I don't get why we wouldn't want to keep our same bigs/Jefferson and Milsap/ to keep the chemistry and let them build the younger guys. They've done so much for us - I know, it's all about the money - and I don't see how these Warrior acquisitions are going to help as well as J and M could have. You want youth but you get inexperience too without them and Foye and Mo to back them up.

  • BarkforSark PROVO, UT
    July 6, 2013 3:32 a.m.

    I'll set the over/under for Jazz wins in 2013-14 at 20. Gonna be a brutal season.

  • forgetyourself Layton, UT
    July 6, 2013 3:12 a.m.

    This move really makes me wonder what is going on in the front office?
    Both Milsap and Caroll wanted to stay and yet the Jazz did not want them?
    We pick up Some players that are washed up and say we are giving the team to a rookie?
    This will be a very interesting year.

  • doc33 Las Vegas, NV
    July 6, 2013 1:29 a.m.

    I don't get Atlanta signing Millsap to ostensibly play alongside Hortford. That is a small front line, and if the Hawks acquire Asik in a sign and trade for Josh Smith, you got to move Millsap to the bench because he can't match up with most small forwards, and this is the guy you just paid 9.5 million/ 2yrs. For what? To sit on the bench? I don't get it.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    July 6, 2013 12:11 a.m.

    I'm looking forward to Kanter, Favors and Hayward being the main go to guys and seeing how they do. They should do well they're not rookies and they have sufficient experience that they should be able to meet the challenge. I think that is what the FO and coaches think too or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. I can live with a few more loses if I'm seeing the young guns play well and improve. Next yrs free agents and draft are very strong and we should be in a good position to take advantage of that fact.

  • pmstats College Station, TX
    July 5, 2013 11:48 p.m.

    To bad we couldn't get the Warriors coach in the trade. That would have been a great deal!

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 5, 2013 11:35 p.m.

    i would have thought they would have re-signed carroll...that's a bummer...but i do not understand the details of the 20M dollar salary cap relief...is this because we took Biedrins and Jefferson?....dang....i guess we'll see each other in the lottery next year