re: Howard BealAgreed about skill being involved. I could probably
make a killing betting on Football as opposed to the Stock Market. I'd have
more control over football than wall street.That said, I don't
mind going to Nevada and losing $20 or so on video poker every so often. Though,
I tend to break even w/ the complimentary beverages i.e. Coca Cola.Truthfully, its the buffets that keep me coming back To LV & Wendover.
Utah is over-run with casino ads.We used to joke that if we wanted
to see our LDS neighbors, we had to go to Wendover.After a while, we all
just hired a bus.
Having gambling illegal makes no sense, all people do is drive right next door
spending money in neighboring states. Do I think gambling is good no, but I
believe in agency.
Utah is great the way it is. No one is trying to keep people from gambling - it
just has to be done in a neighboring state. I went with a buddy to Vegas. He
entertained us by losing $1000 in thirty minutes.
Gambling is not good. IN counties that get a casino crime goes up. There may
be a few hundred or even a few thousand in Utah gambling, but not many in my
It is helpful to remember that, whenever legalied gambling enters an entity,
organized crime follows.
"Gambling can never be stopped by legislation, but the threat of the law
does offer some balance and control."Replace "gambling"
with "gun violence" and that sentence is just as true.Just
i would love for utah to legalize gambleing and bring the powerball and
megamillions to utah. they would get tons of money off the sells to help out
with schools and roads.
Why don't they nail the Fish and game for the fees they keep for each
application they get for big game permits.
How is it that it is not OK for citizens but the the state allowsThe
department of fish and game to do exactly that when applying bigGame
permits and keeps the application fee when you draw out?
As I said before Poker is a game of skill in which some element of luck is
involved. It is not a slot machine. You don't win tournaments just based
on blind luck. To me it should be viewed differently than other games and as I
said before it takes less luck than people investing in the stock market,
especially on their own, with these on-line sites. I've lost more money
and been scammed more with the stock market than playing some cards in Vegas,
Mesquite, Reno or Wendover.
"It's in the longterm public interest of Utah to crack down on these
illegal games." Says who? The church? Not everyone in Utah feels this
way. We have Casinos here in Washington state and they're a big help to
the economy. Not only that, they bring great music acts that don't cost as
much as the arena venues. I don't gamble, but my daughter and I went to
the Tulalip Casino one night when it was ladies' night. They had a free
disco band playing, and we danced and had a great time. I've gone there a
few times for the great Eagle buffet. They have a great variety of food and the
prime rib is to die for!
One of the reasons we left California was to escape the never-ending ads
promoting gambling. We were literally assaulted day and night from ads making it
seem if we did NOT gamble, we'd be putting schools and children at risk. At
the same time, we watched as neighbor after neighbor lost everything to feed a
gambling habit. Those who want to waste all that gas to drive
out-of-state to feed their bad habits are welcome to move to a border town. No thanks. Keep Utah an island. PLEASE!!!
When I lived in Utah gambling was alive and well. Many thousands of dollars bet,
won and lost on NCAA basketball "march madness"..., even in the State
Government office where I worked.Either make it legal or enforce all of
the laws. This piecemeal enforcement is only used to pick on those someone I
power does not like. It is the gambling enforcement equivalent of jaywalking
I for one would hate to see Casinos, but I would not be against a Lottery as
long as a large percentage of the money went to the public and private schools.
Notice I mentioned private schools also. Property taxes in some counties are
killing our seniors with nice homes but on fixed incomes. Some of these seniors
have lived in the same house for over 50 years and have already paid their fair
share and some of these same houses have been in their families for over a
Gambling on commodities like gold, silver or stocks as a form of investment is
much more riskier than allowing people to buy a lottery ticket. So is going
outside and taking in a deep breath of air. Nearly every element of life
involves such risk. Are we going to regulate and enforce everything?Utah's lawmakers find problems that don't exist and make new laws
that infringe on our rights as US citizens. A lawmaker takes his family out to
dinner. He sees alcohol being served. Rather than going to a different place
to eat he changes the law forcing business to bow down to his demands and
conform to his expectations. That sort of lawmaker reminds me of a certain
fallen angel who wanted to control us all in order to save us all from
ourselves. Just restrict the choices of the populace to what "I" want
and everybody is good.I don't gamble. Never have, never will.
However it is not my right to force others to do what I want them to do. We
need to cease making laws like the zion curtain and internet gaming laws and
focus on the laws that are important.
Why Utah goes to so much trouble to keep gambling illegal is beyond me. If an
adult wants to gamble they should be allowed to. All of that money just goes to
Wendover, Nv anyways, why not keep it in the state. Tax it. Regulate it. Make it
legal. Those who don't want to do it don't have to. An adult can buy
cigarettes, liquor, etc. why can't adults gamble. It is not the governments
job to make dumb laws and try to enforce them.
A player of blackjack or poker has more control over the outcome than someone
investing in the stock market, currencies or commodities. Those are real games
You can play online, or in a few places around town here, but it's way more
fun in vegas, or even wendover.Even Montana has some better machines these days,
and they're always convenient to stores my wife wants to visit but I'd
rather not. And when you're there you get a true sense of American freedom,
of making your own choices and being allowed to do so, instead of the big state
nanny wagging its' ever disapproving finger at you.
I think the state has found the right balance. A game between friends is not
the government's business. However businesses which make money off
gambling are likely to bring corruption. Vegas is pretty, but get a couple of
blocks off the strip and you see the sleaze that tends to follow commercial
gambling. As for the lottery, it is a tax for those those who can't do
math. Work in a poor part of a city in a state with a lottery and you will see
the damage which is done by adults neglecting their kids to spend their money on
lottery tickets - not to mention the ever present litter of the losing tickets.
This would be a great article, but WAY too long. If the story can't be
said in 1-2 pages, I won't read beyond that; I have other reading materials
to get to. How much of what was said was really necessary?
Gambling is risk and risk is what the United States is all about and every day
of our life is a form of gambling. Its not so much financial gambling, its life
and death gambling that is a part of the American culture. Without the gambling
and risk takers this country would not exist.I'm not in favor
of open gambling because becomes a virus, just like theft and other crimes for
easy money. Gambling and greed are partners in crime and minor gambling is
nothing to the economy or ones personal life compared to the billion dollar
gambling and money laundering and thefts of local taxes by government
corruption.Utah has a level balance of control to keep the problem
under control without having to resort to hard core police control. We have laws
now that are a threat to excessive or mob run gambling that keeps addiction at a
minimum. Gambling can never be stopped by legislation, but the threat of the law
does offer some balance and control. As long as states do not take their greed
down the path of false dreams, the public has a chance for a stable home and