@KakashiYour assessment of OJ Mayo isn't supported by the
stats. He would actually be an upgrade from Randy Foye (and I really like Randy
Foye).These are Foye's and Mayo's stats from last
season:Randy Foye (27.4mpg):10.8 ppg, 2.0 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.5
rpg, 39.7 fg%, 81.9 ft%, 41.0 3p%OJ Mayo (35.5mpg):15.3 ppg,
4.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 3.5 rpg, 44.9 fg%, 82.0 ft%, 40.7 3p%The only
problem I see is that an OJ Mayo acquisition would almost certainly set Alec
Burk's development back several years. I think that with the right
supporting cast at the SG position, Burk could have a breakout year this year
(think Wesley Matthews' first year in Portland, or even better).
@Kakashi, Mayo's numbers dropped immediately after Nowitzki returned to the
lineup and his new role was to feed him the ball. Not only would he have freedom
on the Jazz they would need him to score a lot so I think he would be right back
The N.B.A. is a joke these days! Multimillionaire Players overrule Coaches; see
Jerry Sloan and Deron Williams; Vinny Del Negro and Chris Paul. Players group
together to go to a certain team to become Champions; see Boston Celtics (Kevin
Garnett), Miami Heat (Lebron James, Chris Bosh). The N.B.A. isn't
even close to the League it used to be. Not worth even supporting.
i Just read that Big Al would be talking with the bobcats...i hope we could get
a sign and trade deal with them....Big AL for Cody Zeller + a few first rounders
and Bismack? the problem that i would see going all out young...is how to retain
these players for long term...and i guess this is the reason...why they wanted
veteran leadership...to be able to manage contracts long term
@fortydami do agree that korver doesnt play defense...im just going
to sign him for the minimum...and be that 10-15 min guy that would only be there
to shoot...nothing more...plus i just heard that Delfino was
released...so...i'd rather have delfino
@Jazz SourceDoug10 has been saying that in a few posts about
Hayward...and i even gave him playoff contending teams where in Hayward would be
a huge help...teams like OKC, Chicago, Indiana, and Memphis are just a few
@King BlackMayo is not as consistent as you might think, he shot
lights out first few weeks of the NBA last year...after that...he went downhill
with his percentages...and his numbers went downhill as well and JJ Redick is a
free agent and i would rather have JJ than Mayo...Copeland is a big guy that can
shoot...but he is 29 yrs old...he doesnt have much ceiling, that means this is
what you get from him and i cant call him a vet...i would bring Foye back...and
since Houston just released delfino...i'll grab him...i am not sure about
Neto's contractual issues...if he cant come in this year...i'd
probably do a sign and trade with San Antonio...i'll trade Big Al or Paul
Millsap for Blair and/or Splitter + Nando de Colo + a 2016 unprotected first
round pick...@cowboy99the reason why i would sign splitter is
to have a decent viable backup, If they wont sign Big Al or Millsap...another
option would be Tyler Hansbrough...
@ Jazz Source I agree with your assessment about Hayward...and I
would add that the only reason he might not start for any team is his skill set
is so broad. He is a point guard/shooting guard/small forward all in one.
Basically, if the core-4 each play more, more supposed experts will see them all
as starters. I bet if we asked the TNT analysts who they would rather have on
their fantasy team between starter Paul George of the Pacers and often starter
but not always Gordon Hayward of the Jazz, Gordon might just get two out of
three. And I still say that the +/- will improve without Jefferson, and that is
the most important stat I can think of. I bet every single member of the core-4
improved their shooting (either percentage or range or both) & added
offensive moves during the past year, too.
I agree with Tators. Most of the reason Jimmer is not shooting the lights out is
that he gets very few minutes. Still, I don't see him getting any time next
year and hope he gets traded to a team where he can be consistently part of the
Looks like Jody is plugging for Korver. Jazz will take him on a one maybe two
year deal. Problem is Korver is probably looking for three years. Be surprised
if he goes to Nets. Nets have sealed their doom, there is only one basketball
and they look to start 5 that intend to hog it. I can just see them trying to
take the ball from Williams.Jazz are targeting Millsap, one they owe
him the respect, two he is their best chance. When it shakes out Jefferson will
be in Boston or Dallas. Jazz will be in running but the money will be too much.
Spurs are the joker in this game and if Houston is stupid enough to actually
sign Howard, the Lakers could get in the act.Bottom line Jazz are
looking for veterans that can play and blend with the group under contract.
to I-am-IWouldn't it be hard to play in the dark?
@ Brave Sir Robin:You must have missed the part about Jimmer playing
only an average of 12 minutes a game since coming into the NBA, meaning his 7
ppg is actually pretty good. A starter usually avaerages about 36-38 minutes per
game. At his current points per minute, Jimmer would be averaging over 20 points
per game at that rate.Another consideration, any player who comes in
for only a few minutes at a time almost never has time to get into his normal
shooting rhythm, and will almost never perform at his best under those
conditions. If you've played competitive sports much, that would be easy
for you to understand. Armchair critics are a dime a dozen.
@I-am-I"I'm okay with that if I get to watch Jimmer shoot
the lights out."Ha ha, that's rich...you must have missed
the part where Jimmer averages 7 ppg on 38% shooting for his pro career.
@Doug10Hayward is an all-NBA top 15 3pt % shooter and we all know he
is an above average defender and he scores double digits and rebounds well for
his position. How is that not a starter?My guess is the infamous
"sources" must have wrote what you read about Hayward not starting. His
stats say he certainly is at minimum a starter and if he didn't have to
defer/play with the black hole called Jefferson he might be alot better.Nobody is saying he is a superstar yet but certainly can hold his own on
most starting lineups.The Jazz re-sign Jefferson then no doubt they
want to win 43-48 games instead of 38-40 next season. Only problem is that you
will never win more than that. Signing him is basically acknowledging your team
never will be even average defensively and you don't care about anyone else
being involved in the offense. Sure he is above average on the
block and can score when most can't but quite literally his deficiencies
negate his abilities not to mention his style kills his teammates abilities.Time to see what these young guys can do.
Jimmer. That's the answer! The Jazz, barring a few spectacular occurrences
aren't going to make the playoffs this year. I'm okay with that if I
get to watch Jimmer shoot the lights out.
@Kakashi - The Jazz aren't pursuing Korver. The article merely mentioned
that he might be going to Brooklyn to play with Deron Williams again. Besides,
he wasn't that good while he was here, and has only improved marginally
since he's left. Let's spend our money on better prospects.
the Princess bride the Man in Black said "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone
who says differently is selling something" and I think he, like Andy
Grifith was an actor who repeated lines they had read on a paper and perhaps are
not as wise as we would like to remember.Much as I would like to see
the young Jazz take it to the league I hope the admin is having a reality check.
As much as Junkyard dog hustles or as high as Jeremy leaps those people will
not intimidate others or win games in this league.The team still
needs someone like Al who scores regardless who is guarding them and do it night
in and night out. that is the difference between 12 million annually and 3
million. Much as the Jazz would like to think they can field a team of workers
and hustlers and compete that is not the equation in the NBA.ESPN
reports in a review of the Jazz that Hayward would not start for most NBA teams
and he is one of the teams bright lights.Hope the Jazz gets some
veterans to help the team compete this year.
You have to prune the tree in order for the delicate fruit to grow. It is time
for the young'uns to take the stage as Andy Griffith would say.
@Kakashiidk why you dont like OJ Mayo he is a prtty good consistent
scorer and a fairly decent defensive player, gets steals, also a good 3 pt
shooter as well good at throwing assists and for his size and position gets ok
rebounds;; Copeland has good ball handling skills for a 6-8 big man
who is good at shooting threes and can take his man off the dribble and has a
pretty solid inside game.. im not sure about his defense thoughBut
everyone else on your list is spot on id take Budinger, Carroll and Korver. im
not sure about Splitter after seeing how garbage he was in the finals but maybe
that was just all the adrenaline of excitment getting to him so id give him a
chance as well
Korver doesn't play defense at all, that's why he's played for
half the teams in the league. I really like Splitter, but I'm not sure how
he fits into Utah's plans, unless Kanter and Favors split time. The Jazz
are reporting Favors as the four and Kanter as a five, I think they would be
better switched. Kanter has the footwork to defens the four, and a untapped
outside jumper. Favors is the rim police. Budinger would be a big upgrade for
the perimeter, I can't remember is defensive skills, but they would have to
be better than Korver. Carroll will be back.
Please not Tiago Splitter!
I dont like OJ Mayo...and i also dont like Copeland...i like Tiago Splitter
Budinger Carroll and Korver...and i think those four plus another big would be
enough...probably AK and if Raul Neto comes to play...he'd be 3rd PG and we
need an experienced PG to backup Trey if we are gunning for him to start...if
not...well..just bring back everybody for a year or two...lol