Cougar in Texas, there was a lot of talk about several of the schools recruiting
Sharp to play him at another position, including UT. I think Baylor was
recruiting him as a QB, but may not have sold him on their system and how
they'd utilize him like K State and Utah had.Also, not that it
makes much difference, but Taysom Hill was a 3 star recruit in Stanford's
2009 class, but was a much lower-rated prospect than Josh Nunes, the
heir-apparent to Andrew Luck. He looked decent in his limited time for BYU last
year, but still has a lot to prove.
Too bad for the Utes, but it is not the end of the world. Just one question: Why
Kansas State? It is still a long drive from Houston and they don't play in
Texas more then twice in a given year. Texas and Baylor were both options are
are much close.To GoRedBYU has no trouble attracting good QB
talent. Tanner Mangum was an Elite 11 co-MVP and is leaving on a mission soon,
while current QB Tayson Hill was a 4* recruit.
"Boy you are just so well connected in the recruiting world."High praise from the one who considers 3/9 to be "JUST ABOUT every"
one of something.
I wish nothing but the best for Aaron. Disparaging remarks about his character,
etc. are unjust and unwarranted. Show a little more class. The happiness of a
mother is a powerful thing. He obviously wanted Utah, but he knew that his
mother wanted him closer. His mother's happiness won out and I respect
that. I would have hated to have it go down to LOI day and have his mother
refuse to sign.IMHO, it took great moral character for him to
rescind his commitment and keep his mother happy. I am disappointed that we did
not get the kid, he is a great talent. But, there is nothing wrong with the
Kansas State program and I hope he thrives there. Best of luck to
you Aaron.Go Utes!!
The real reason for his decommit: he didn't want to play defense in 2015.
@ Sammy GSo how's that talent working out for you at Kansas?
It's my understanding, from somebody who sat down and spoke at length with
Aaron, that he exhibits no excitement, whatsoever, about his commitment to KSU
and made this switch strictly in order to maintain the peace within his own
household.I understand he's still quite young and doesn't
yet have a great deal of experience in life nor has he yet to become an adult
and begun to establish his own identity, but with such an all-important,
life-altering experience his college experience will be for him, personally,
it's shameful that he won't be following his heart, as he clearly
wishes to be a part of UTE-NATION!Aaron won't study/play
football where he in fact truly wants to, we UTES won't get to experience
watching him play for us and KSU gets a player who doesn't even want to be
there, in the first place!However, so long as Mamma Sharp is
happy/content and gets HER way, what difference does it all make, correct?A lot can change between now/National LOI Signing-Day, but right now
it's a lose-lose situation, all around!
@CougfaninTexasYep, it's really all hype and pie in the sky at
this point. A verbal comitment and 75 cents will get you a Desseret News,
Newspaper. It doesn't mean squat until they sign a letter of intent.
Verbals are far from binding.Oh well, you win some; you lose some.
One more argument for getting rid of verbal commitments. Change national LOI
day to any day after a high school student / athlete finishes their junior year.
You could even give the athlete a 3 day window to change their mind after they
sign their LOI. But this system of giving verbal commitments is not
fair for any university. They think they have a good recruit, so they stop
recruiting then the athlete changes their mind and university has lost out to
all the athletes they were recruiting and have to start over.Sharp's is a little different since it was only one day, but let's
end the verbal commitments.
@SportsFanYour spin about "bcs era" is laughable and nothing
but a convenient Utesie excuse to ignore the painful truth that the Utes did
absolutely NOTHING on a national scale before 1994, and precious little after
that until 2004.---------CBS Sports disagrees with your
assessment, last decade (2000-2009) #10 Utah:Urban Meyer arrived in
2003 and changed the landscape. His quarterback, Alex Smith, became a No. 1
draft pick. His team became the first non-BCS program to break through in the
restrictive system.Changed the landscape? Notre Dame dallied just a
bit in pursuing its former receivers coach and lost Meyer to Florida. Defensive
coordinator Kyle Whittingham has kept things chugging with an undefeated season
in ’08.This is meant in the nicest possible way: Utah is the
No. 2 football factory west of the Rockies.
AZUTE1It's a given that a quarterback that wasn't good
enough to win a Heisman Trophy, or a Sammy Baugh Trophy, or a Davey O'Brien
Award clearly wasn't even the top quarterback or passer in his class:Steve Sarkisian - 278 of 404 (68.8%), 4,027 yds, 10.0 yds/att, 33 TDs,
12 Ints, 173.6 rating (#1 in nation)Alex Smith - 214 of 317 (67.5%),
2,952 yds, 9.3 yds/att, 32 TDs, 4 Ints, 176.5 rating (#2 in nation)Your spin about "bcs era" is laughable and nothing but a convenient
Utesie excuse to ignore the painful truth that the Utes did absolutely NOTHING
on a national scale before 1994, and precious little after that until 2004.All the "bcs era" cutoff really means is the Utes have no
football history that they consider worth talking about before 2004.
From earlier: "That's 5/8 committed players. So just about every
commitment, except for the majority of them."With Mariner, that
makes 6/9 now. Not quite the picture you had in your mind or were trying to
paint, is it Duck?
"BYU is known is considered one of the premier QB factories in College
football"ThosJeff:y "fans" just can't
help themselves, as if a run of two-three guys that ended two decades ago is
relevant today. In the Where Are They Now Dept, we have:Riley Nelson: coaching high school James Lark: UNK (grad school?) Jake Hypes: transfer to KUMax Hall: coaching (and glad his family can
avoid RES fans for a while)JoBeck: looking for workMatt Berry:
who?Brandon Doman: selling basketball equipmentYeah,
that's a real "premiere" factory, SO much better than any other
Boy, the Ute fans can really dish it out on BYU articles but can't take it
when BYU fans come on to their articles. Pretty typical of an inferiority
antibcs--"btw, if Alex Smith and Brian Johnson were really as
good as you pretend they were, why didn't either of them win a single
national individual player award?"You're the designated
authority on it? I'll answer, once you provide access to this
"source" of yours, wherein it states authoritatively that a QB is not
deemed, "really as good as [AZUTE1 (allegedly)] pretend(s) (he was)",
unless he wins, at minimum, a single individual player award. Deal?Meanwhile, I'll allow the Elite-accomplishments of both AS/BJ do their
talking, things Beck/Hall never even remotely sniffed and, IMO, would've
traded any/every individual stat they have next to their name--Whether
significant or otherwise per normal standards or merely due to typical 2-Star
byu exaggeration of something's overall import--To have achieved what our
kids achieved.Heck, max hall cried upon 2-Star byu's miracle
win over Bradford-less OU they believed to be Elite, when in fact they were
barely above Mediocre, at best, ultimately finishing year unranked after
hovering all year long around .500 [Airport Celebration/Parade/LOL]. Imagine
his reaction to have in fact actually done so [i.e., 2008 Alabama]?
cougsndawgs--"Honestly I think this kid is making the right
choice considering how well Collin Klein did last year and the staff at KSU that
can hone his dual threat abilities."Although KSU coaching
staff's ability to do per above is true, UTAH's is equally capable,
which is something Aaron Sharp knew perfectly, himself, as this consideration
played no factor, whatsoever, in his final decision to switch commits. The lone
consideration related exclusively to affording his mother/family greater access,
via closer-proximity, to being able to more frequently attend in-person his
games.With all other considerations being equal, KSU's location
on the map won the day for them in forcing Aaron's hand per his final
decision!Otherwise, general agreement with balance of comment.We're currently recruiting LA's QB PP Big Ben-Like Donovan
Isom, who's stated UTAH #1, Miami #2, as he nears heading down-the-stretch.
DI makes it unequivocal that location/distance will have absolutely ZERO
influence on his final decision, which he'd optimally prefer making before
his senior season commences, although a later date works for him, as well, IF
Also, Duck: "Uh.....just about every commitment BYU has this year are
players that have committed to them over BCS schools."Just about
every... except for Chambers (1 school, Kansas, is not "schools"), Dye,
Dawe, Herring, and Pau'u. That's 5/8 committed players. So just about
every commitment, except for the majority of them. To finish your quote:
Duckhunter: "What's embarrassing is utah 'fans' blah blah
blah"Umm cool? What does that have to do with my comment, or me,
antiBCS--"Ty Detmer won his Heisman Trophy in 1990, and both
Detmer(1990 and 1991) and Steve Sarkisian(1996) won Sammy Baugh Trophies during
the '90s."Please....Ty Detmer overlapped both decades and
the vast majority of those QBs people think of when considering their QB
history, predated 1990!Neither '90/'96 are within this
current BCS Era, thus don't qualify for Athlon's BCS Era 50 best
ranking I referenced.FYI--BCS Era started in '98!My
original point was that 2-Star byu's not known today for what it was known
for decades hence, while illustrating UTAH does in fact lay claim to its own
history of highly-successful QBs, thus rendering entirely false the comment to
which I initially responded!AF/BJ achieved unbeaten seasons, leading
their respective teams to historic glory seasons, including each winning a BCS
Bowl Game while being prominately spotlighted on the national stage! Beck/Hall
didn't!What possible relevance does The NFL/what any of these
players from both schools may/may not have accomplished at that level even
remotely have in discussing performance while playing College Football?Team obviously trumps individual per Athlon, although AS/BJ earned individual
accolades, as well!
AZUTE1"The '80s are long gone, ancient history, in
fact!"Ty Detmer won his Heisman Trophy in 1990, and both
Detmer(1990 and 1991) and Steve Sarkisian(1996) won Sammy Baugh Trophies during
the '90s.It's laughable how inconsistent Utah fans are
with their "ancient history" labels.In football, 1996 is
ancient history.In basketball, 1997 and 1998 is like yesterday, in
fact 1944 was not THAT long ago.btw, if Alex Smith and Brian Johnson
were really as good as you pretend they were, why didn't either of them win
a single national individual player award?Neither won the Davey
O'Brien Award (nation's best quarterback)Neither won the Sammy
Baugh Trophy (nation's best passer)And neither even came close to
winning the Heisman Trophy.Alex has been a mediocre QB in the NFL
and BJ didn't even make an NFL roster.
ThomasJefferson"Now let's face it, Utah generally has more
talent at the skill positions that BYU. BUT, QB isn't one of them. There
have been a few decent Utah QB's over the years, however BYU is known is
considered one of the premier QB factories in College football. QB is not a
position Utah has or will ever be on par with BYU!"More myth
than fact, actually. Back in the day, meaning decades ago, they were viewed in
this light. However, although Beck/Hall were above average [both from my Alma
Mater down here in AZ], overall, neither accomplished what AS/BJ both
accomplished for us, for instance, which is precisely why Athlon [if I remember
correctly], when listing the 50 best QBs during this current BCS Era, included
the latter 2/excluded the former 2.The '80s are long gone,
ancient history, in fact!
Wow, I heard this kid almost made the mistake of his life.
There's no shame in Utah losing out to a legend like Bill Snyder for a
recruit. Honestly I think this kid is making the right choice considering how
well Collin Klein did last year and the staff at KSU that can hone his dual
threat abilities. Utah has actually recruited the QB position much better than
in years past already so they'll be fine at that position. Travis Wilson
was rated higher than Sharp, and Cox is rated about the same (#27 on 247, &
17 on rivals).
Duckhunter--"@stgWhat's embarrassing is utah
'fans' trumpeting this 3 star kid all over the comment sections here
for the last day as if they had just gotten a commitment from an actual stud,
then having him change his commitment so fast that those comments barely had
time to be approved.LOL!"If you were at all in
regular contact w/the various recruiting services, you'd already know that
his stock rises daily, in particular with Scout, and he's expected to
receive a bump upward on his rating, per Insiders.FYI--Scout, in
general, hands-out the fewest 4-/5-Star ratings of them all.Duckhunter--"@goredUh.....just about every
commitment BYU has this year are players that have committed to them over BCS
schools. Fail. LOL!"Not in the least bit surprising that
you'd be on here "touting" a class of recruits whose majority
consists of 2-Stars, per Scout! LOLRemember, 2-Star byu's
recruiting "prowess" has been steadily in decline ever since their
decision to go the way of indy-oblivion! LOL
It is what it is. Sharp needs to go where he feels he has the best chance to
succeed. If he feels K-State is the place, then K-State is where he needs to
be.Rivals rated Sharp to be the #17-ranked dual-threat QB in the
nation, so he certainly WOULD be a prized recruit no matter where he goes.
It's unfortunate that we missed out on this fine young athlete.
Nevertheless, Utah will get by. Likely with ANOTHER 17th-ranked dual-threat QB
-- Brandon Cox -- who had already signed his LOI with the Utes last February.
Utah will be fine.GO UTES!!!
With utah athletics on the decline who could. blame him. It is good to be a
COUG with plenty of talent at qb.
@stgWhat's embarrassing is utah "fans" trumpeting this
3 star kid all over the comment sections here for the last day as if they had
just gotten a commitment from an actual stud, then having him change his
commitment so fast that those comments barely had time to be approved.LOL!
@goredUh.....just about every commitment BYU has this year are
players that have committed to them over BCS schools. Fail. LOL!
"Meltdown" when byu panicked and went independent."Meltdown" when byu starts into their "big boy schedule"."Meltdown" 54-10."Meltdown" failure, 3 times
in a row...last year."Meltdown" every time byu plays
Utah."Meltdown" every time byu plays a ranked opponent.
sammy: "Or maybe this kid is just using his mom as a kind way to dump your
program after he dug into Ute athletics a little further."Right.
Makes sense. Because you can really learn A LOT MORE about a school that
you've been looking into for the past 6 months of being recruited (if not
longer) in the hours between your verbal commitment near bedtime and waking up
in the morning to your family's opinion and promptly making a call to
change the commitment.You are usually the one that actually makes
logical snide comments. But this one is a full-blown duckhunter-sized
conspiracy. Let's hope you are joking, because if so it's one of your
funnier comments to get under Utah fans' skins. But if not, that's
sammygSpringville, UTCarson... my favorite followerMeltdown?Meltdown is term copyrighted and trademarked for Ute
athletics. No further explanation needed------------Meltdown is being punked at home by 40 points and then transferring to
Kanasas.Hope Sharp gets a chance to beat Heisman Heaps at Kansas.
After reading past comments from Ute fans I didn't think this ever happened
up on the hill... they act like it's only at BYU. Golly gee, I
guess what goes around comes around. Don't worry, it's not
the end of the world and you don't have far to slide in the rankings
without this kid.
From Aaron--"I just had to make a family decision," Sharp
said. "It was really my mom who wasn’t on board with Utah. She
wouldn’t be able to see me play and I'd be real far away. I had to go
with K-State. She'd be able to see the majority of my away games because
they play in Texas a lot. That was a big factor." This
wasn't a matter of Sharp immediately regretting his pledge to Utah, or even
an issue of committing before he was ready. The 6-foot-3, 188-pound
pocket-passer thought he'd made the right choice.
goredWhy would any BYU fan be frustrated over this? BYU gets plenty
of QB talent... period. As I recall it is U that had a severe
shortage of talent recently and lamenting over this loss.Stick with
the story. This guy dumped U for KSU and I'm betting his mommy is not the
Carson... my favorite followerMeltdown?Meltdown is term
copyrighted and trademarked for Ute athletics. No further explanation needed.
But in case your memory is failing you here's just a few of the
Ute athletic highlites since joining your conference.Going
bowl-less, < .500 in football conference games, losing to Colorado, getting
beat by USU, basketball, rugby, swimming fiascos.You're the
team that lost this recruit and having a meltdown... not me. I really thought
'mass transit' was the tipping point.Or maybe this kid is
just using his mom as a kind way to dump your program after he dug into Ute
athletics a little further.Who could blame him?
He sounds like a really smart kid. He can be a big star at Kansas State.
Just an observation here. In this episode with this Sharp recruit, it ended up
being a battle between the University of Utah and Kansas State, two BCS schools.
For the BYU fans, it must be frustrating and sad that your school is no longer
mentioned in these types of recruiting battles.
Can't blame the kid for wanting to play in a better conference and for a
team that is not the bottom feeder. Good move. He should do well there.
Ouch! That stings!
Will Sammy and Ducky ever go troll somewhere else? LOL at the Y fans who
continue to come in hoards to Utah boards seeking validationThe BYU
@duckhunterOnce you asked a Ute fan to list one recruiting advantage
had over any other PAC-12 member. I listed 10 including Mass Transportation
(See Sammyg above). I would recommend the article in todays paper entitled 5
reasons Salt Lake is great for the young, broke & single. Also see the
referenced personal finance advice site, Money under 30. It rates Salt Lake
City (home of the Utes) as the number 2 city in America. (Seattle Washington is
ranked ninth. No other PAC-12 city made the list.) But then again -
you're argument seems to be that none of this is important to a football
recruit supported by data and irrevocable facts.
BarkforSark"This is too hilarious. Just yesterday this was a
huge coup, but now I wonder if Utah fans will diminish his abilities now that
he's spurned them."Nice try! Throwing kids under the bus
is exclusive to the 2-Star byu fanbase!Personally, it was absolutely
disappointing, but once I was able to read his explanation, KSU definitely makes
more sense from his position!Fortunately, this has never been a
position of need in our 2014 recruiting class and, should we not land one of our
specific QB targets, we're still sitting pretty with the depth/abilities of
our current core-group! Our previous recruiting efforts have afforded us this
luxury of targeting only a select few QB recruits in our 2014 class and
streamlining our efforts/resources, accordingly!Aaron's heart
was clearly at UTAH, but practical reasons relative to his mother's ability
to attend significantly more of his games overrode his desire/preference to
stick with his original UTAH commitment! He'd already postponed his
announcement for roughly one day, while vacillating between the 2 schools.!I suspect he'll feel some amount of regret going forward, but I
certainly wish him nothing but success at KSU!
@sammyg"Inconceivable!"Does Kansas State have a
better 'mass transit' system?Ans: I don't know!However you might read the article in the D-news today entitled "5
reason Salt Lake is great for the young, broke and single" (Do you think
football recruits might fall into one, two, or all three of this category?) The
first reason listed is "Easy and affordable public transit". Do you think a college student might appreciate a student pass that gives them
access to a vibrant downtown as well as transportation along the Wasatch Front
from Ogden to Orem?
I did not think the D news would cover this as they did not cover the signing
yesterday!So why the change? Aaron said,"So my parents liked
both schools, but my mom really wanted me closer to home so she can see me."
"So for the Family to be in agreement and everybody happy, I told my Mom I
would switch my choice for her. Because to me it really could have gone either
way."His quote so clearly presents the argument why the Utah
should NOT schedule the Y annually! Texas is currently one of out best areas
for recruits! We should schedule one game in Texas every year. Perhaps if we
were playing Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, etc. Aaron's
mom (and other recruit's families) would be able to see their sons play in
person (and see all Utah games on national tv) and as a result would support
their son's choice!A home and home with a Texas school every
year! BYU and Utah State once every four years. (That would account for 6 of
the 12 out of conference games Utah has the ability to schedule!) Make it
BarkforSark"...now I wonder if Utah fans will diminish his
abilities now that he's spurned them."_____________Nope, his abilities remain what they are and this is a tough turn for the
Utes. At least we're seeing Utah in the thick of these recruiting battles
though. We'll continue to win some recruiting battles and lose a lot of
them, such is the game of recruiting.
LOL at azute. Extremely funny stuff.
Check out Gunner Keil from Indy...He signs with IU...then backs out
and goes to LSU...then quits and goes to Notre Dame...then quits and goes to
Cincy (if I remember right)...Oh...he is yet to take an NCAA snap
yet...Sharp better start to grow up, fast...
This is too hilarious. Just yesterday this was a huge coup, but now I wonder if
Utah fans will diminish his abilities now that he's spurned them.
Can we stop judging kids' (whom none of us know) character based off ONE
single action they make in their life?
@sammygNo, just nicer Big-12 patches and banners.Tassels and
Take it easy owlmaster, he's a high school kid who's making a very
important decision.This does bums me out as I was really hoping Utah would
land Sharp. That said, I wish him all the best at KSU.Go Utes!
"Inconceivable!"Does Kansas State have a better 'mass
This says a lot about the character of Aaron Sharp.If he can't
be depended on to keep his word as simple as his commitment to a school how can
the 2nd school be sure he won't bale on them.His word is worth
NOTHING. He has no character.Dorothy, you and Kansas can have this