Brother stole gun that accidentally fired, shooting his sister, police say

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  • Walt Nicholes Orem, UT
    June 30, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    There is always a bigger picture, and it isn't being told here. We know nothing of the history of the teen, whether he was feeling less safe or bullied, and thus thought a gun would be useful to have around, or whether he was influenced by associates who thought that a gun would be a useful thing to have around.

    He had the gun for a year. Had he used it before, "played" with it before? After a year did he have any reason to think it was or was not loaded? Had he ever bought ammunition for the gun?

    What were his reasons for having it in a room with his sister? What was his attitude showing her the gun? Was he demonstrating his power by his possession, or was he trying to show her his neat "toy?" Was he threatening her and it went bad, or was he showing her that he could now protect her and it went bad?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 29, 2013 9:53 p.m.

    Let's see...

    If I leave a stick of dynamite in my yard,
    and somebody "stole" it,
    and accidently blew somebody or something up with it...

    I WOULD be held accountable.

    BTW - I have guns, I was in the Military.
    I keep everything in a gun safe.
    Just like I was taught in the Military.
    Same with the Police Departments....
    ALWAYS in a gun safe, or armory -- ALWAYS, no exceptions.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    June 29, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    At least 92 children have died from firearms, so far, this year. More than half were accidental.

    About 29% of households with children younger than 12 fail to lock up their guns, according to a 2006 study in Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine by Harvard's David Hemenway and others.

    In an experiment in which researchers observed how 8- to 12-year-old boys behaved when left alone in a room with a hidden gun, 75% of boys found the gun within 15 minutes. Only one of 64 kids in the experiment left the room to notify an adult. The gun was modified so it couldn't fire.

    Of the boys who found the gun, 63% handled it and 33% pulled the trigger.

    More than 90% of boys who handled the gun or pulled the trigger said they had received some sort of gun safety instruction, says Kellermann, co-author of the study, published in Pediatrics in 2001.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    June 29, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Conservative gun owners need to be more responsible with their weapons. Leaving a gun in a car for a curious teenager is totally irresponsible.
    The gun owner that left this gun in his car should shoulder some of the responsibility.

  • Mom of ten SANBORNTON, NH
    June 29, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    Cassadove, I do not know about you or others, but, unless I suspect my child is in trouble or has done something he or she should not have done, I am not in the practice of looking throughout his room for contraband. I do no make it a regular habit to search under beds, go through closets and drawers, etc of my kids rooms unless I feel something is amiss. I find it totally believable that a teen can have an item that a parent is not aware of. And yes, kids do wrong or dangerous things even though they have been taught, trained and cautioned differently. Unless your kids, if you have them, are the perfect exception, I believe that you too have had them do things they were taught not to. I have great kids, yet each one of them, at some point, have done stupid things, not illegal, but nonetheless dumb. You assume his parents did not teach him. Sheesh, please do not judge what you do not know.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    "Another case of the proliferation of guns in our society causing trouble." It's really another case of proliferation of car burglary and clueless parents causing trouble.

  • Captain Green Heber City, UT
    June 29, 2013 12:30 a.m.

    If this young man had attended one of the NRA's "Eddie Eagle" GunSafe courses, he likely would not have "accidentally" shot his Sister. This program has reached 25 million youth since its inception in 1988... and is one of the many good things this wonderful organization does.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    June 28, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    Another case of the proliferation of guns in our society causing trouble. That's not a liberal statement; that's a conservative comment. I value life and I think that we should be conservative in our use of such weapons.

  • cassadove Tampa, FL
    June 28, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    My question is, how the heck did the parents NOT find the gun? Better yet, why wasn't this boy taught the importance of gun safety, and the common sense that you DON'T "play" with guns in the house!? Sheesh... I don't think the boy should be tried as an adult (unless malicious intent can be proven), but he needs to be held accountable for his actions, and I'm of the opinion that his parents should have to explain why their son thought it was okay to "play" with a gun in the house.

  • Ricardo Carvalho Provo, UT
    June 28, 2013 8:05 p.m.

    Chris is using a bit of sarcasm Bob.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    "Liberals should make it illegal to steal guns."

    Uh. . . Chris, it's already -- you know something? Nevermind.

  • Bob Pomeroy Bisbee, AZ
    June 28, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    It's already illegal to steal anything Chris (except sometimes a kiss), and I doubt it arose from a partisan vote.
    The fact of the theft however, may well remove the 'accidental' aspect of the shooting. The DA for Clearfield will have to make the decision about whether or not to prosecute, and for what crime if any. Hard to see how the fact of theft is not part of what happened.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 28, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    Liberals should make it illegal to steal guns.

    Then this wouldn't have happened.

  • Straitpath PROVO, UT
    June 28, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    That family is so lucky. Hope the kid is thankful and will straighten up and fly right.