Dick Harmon: Traditionalists fear advent of up-tempo football

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  • Beck to Harline Provo, UT
    June 24, 2013 2:45 a.m.


    BYU was the first school---in college---to successful implement the West Coast offense. Bill Walsh created the West Coast offense when he was in the NFL, with the Bengals.....but didn't accomplish anything spectacular with it when at Stanford (he only coached there for two years, as I'm sure you know).

    To say Lavell didn't innovate anything by simply modifying Walsh's system is like saying Steve Jobs didn't innovate anything by simply modifying the already invented cell phone. It just doesn't give credit where credit is due.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 22, 2013 7:55 p.m.


    Check the NCAA passing record books, and for that matter check the comments from....oh....just about every coach in modern NCAA history, what BYU did CHANGED college football, I really don't think the seldom used shovel pass changed football. I do enjoy ridiculousness from utah "fans" like yourself though.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    to I-am-I

    Combine numbers? Really? Shouldn't you go by players actually drafted or even better those on NFL rosters?

    Big 10 players are great if you want to play Bill Parcells ball circa 1987.

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    to Duckhunter

    Lavell was just expediting concepts introduced by Paul Brown & Bill Walsh (then at Stanford).

    The only innovative thing byu has done was Bronko's silly 3-3-5 defense and that was done when he was at Oregon St

    What about the shovel pass developed by Jack Curtice at... wait for it.. Utah in the 50's.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 22, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    Up tempo is super fun to watch. LT was fun last year with theirs. With the right coaches, you can make it work.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 22, 2013 3:44 p.m.


    LOL at you trying to "teach" BYU fans about "innovation". BYU literally changed college football with their innovation.

    utah "fans", making ridiculous comments at all times.


  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    to xert

    I don't about the nictator not shedding a tear. I've heard he can't sell his palatial lakefront estate in Georgia.

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    June 22, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    I see both sides of the argument and I'm not really partial to either. I'm just left thinking would the game clock stop for this 15 seconds? Anyway they do it would kind of suck. Also the SEC doesn't have superior athletes. Look at the NFL combine numbers the big ten is has the best athletes. The SEC had a culture of winning and better coaches.

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 11:58 a.m.

    Its not Bama that has issues. Its Stanford.

    The refs deliberately slowed down the Ducks last year in Eugene v Stanford. Mind you I thought it'd be Ducks & Tide for the BCS Title.

    Any time the B12 & P12 get together in a bowl game is a good thing.

    The Pac12 will be interesting this yr w/ Chip Kelly gone plus Cal & The Utes picking up the pace... see Byu fans.. the Pac12 is all about innovation whether its academics, Student body left (USC back in the day) or the Ducks now.

    Go Utes!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    June 22, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    #1--I doubt that Nick Saban is crying over much of anything.
    #2--If Harmon wants to supress his own tears of laughter, he might want to take a look at last years championship game.
    #3--If Alabama decides that they need to become leaner and meaner, I would imagine they will go out and recruit about seven or eight lean and mean 5 star athletes. Yawn.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    June 22, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    I like up-tempo football. It is much more exciting. Not that football's not already exciting, but it adds to it when the offense can just get right back in formation and snap the ball within a few seconds.

  • DHan Syracuse, UT
    June 22, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    Guerrilla warfare, you mean?

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    "But you see, this is evolution of football. Those who can’t play elephants right and elephants left spread it out, go quick and fast and hike the ball as quickly as possible."


    It's the same type of "evolution" in all types of combat.

    I remember well how the depictions of American fighters in the Revolutionary War were credited with coming up with some of the first hit-and-run "gorilla warfare" tactics in their fighting with the rank-and-file "redcoats". Very effective when engaged in a war with an enemy with superior arms and, often, greater numbers. Especially when it's done on your home turf in an insurgency environment.

    So, if quick, smaller, less powerful player and rapid down-to-down action trumps the bigger, more powerful player and slower down-to-down, then so be it.

    Let them play as is.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    June 22, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    And if BYU and Coach Anae can somehow make it work without so called "well conditioned and freakishly athletic players" well then, what a beautiful thing that will be!!! Miracles do happen I believe! And frankly, I can't wait to see how this year's offense at BYU turns out. Hopefully they won't disappoint and will give us a nice surprise. This is the perfect year and perfect schedule to prove and show the college football world that we're a legit and worthy opponent against the nations elite How I long for that reality to happen soon!

    Go Cougars! And good luck to the Utes too!

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    June 22, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    If Alabama and the other big time programs succeed in getting the delay rule implemented than NCAA football is over and becomes just another fake sport just like the NBA has become. Might as well watch pro wrasslin', it will be more authentic.

    Given how corrupt the NCAA has become, I give this rule at least a 50/50 chance of passing. Money rules in life and money rules in college football - fairness ain't got nothin' to do with it!

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 22, 2013 8:04 a.m.

    I like the uptempo game. Keep the action going - fewer time outs and delays help to keep the game exciting.

    It's cry babies whinning that since they can't win an uptempo game we need to change the rules for them.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 22, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    First, let me say this.... I hate Alabama.... not the state.... not even the team, just the fans. If you have not had the pleasure of attending a game with this crowd.... pass on it. It isn't worth it. So all that said...

    I agree with the principle of protecting the up tempo game. I loved watching Oregon football.... it brought a new twist to the game. But I think the portrayal of Saban to be a bit far reaching. His team is hardly elephants to the right.... yada yada yada..... he players are fast, extremely fast. They are having no issues keeping up with the pace of the game. Add to that the fact that just about every Alabama game is televised with the requisite TV time outs.

    The line is the only position where there is contact every single play.. If you increase the number of instances of impact, and reduce the recovery time, these players will wear faster.

    So I will grant him it does increase wear and tear on these guys - much more so than other positions. But at the end of the day, its about winning, and Saban has no issues three.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    June 21, 2013 7:26 p.m.

    Up tempo football requires supremely well conditioned and freakishly athletic players.

    Two characteristics that have traditionally been in short supply at BYU.

    Anae is not going to turn that tradition around in one short off season.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 6:39 p.m.

    Stop your crying. If you don't like it, be better on defense, force a 3 and out.

    If an offense is good enough to be picking up first downs and yardage fast, good for them.

    If you choose to have huge defensive lineman that can't keep up, tough.

    A coach can decide what he wants his defensive line to look like.

    Anything to win baby. That's all that matters.