New prison relocation effort begins with a question: Does a move make sense?

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  • Lyle Springville, UT
    June 14, 2013 2:20 p.m.

    We could spruce the prison up very nicely for far less than a half billion bucks. I suggest we disappoint the developers.

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    June 14, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    I don't think it matters whether it is moved or not as long as the taxpayer don't get to foot the bill -- If as some have indicated,developers only want to get rich off of it let them give a binding proposal with a bid bond to to cover the removal and building of the new prison.If they don't make it happen the bonding company will have to finish it.Too often deals like this the principles are not held accountable for cost over runs and the taxpayer ends up holding the bag.I don't care how much money a developer makes on a project if it don't end up costing the taxpayer and we accomplish the goal we have set.However any developer has to take his chances so he better know what he is doing and not figure he can rely on the taxpayer to bail him out.

  • cns St George, Utah
    June 13, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    The previous commentors are dead on -- this is a done deal to benefit developers and the politically powerful and influential.

    Socialize the costs -- privatize the profits

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    June 13, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    This mover has never been about building a better facility or the state being able to profit from relocating the facility. Two separate assessors have said that relocating the prison would cost far more than what the state would make from selling the land. Long-term (and I mean REALLY long-term) the state might make the money back in taxes, but those who stand to make the most are the developers. And guess who some of the primary board members/legislators sitting on this committee are? Real estate developers. I concede that the facility is old and either needs to be improved or replaced. But let's not fly it under the banner of some false notion of "making more money from the land" for the state. At the end of the day, even if the facility is relocated, we're still going to have the cost of operating the facility on top of the costs associated with its relocation (which was estimated at around $500 million...) The value of the property it currently sits on was valued a less than $100 million. I think it's obvious where the interests lie here...

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    June 13, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    Follow the money! Who owns the surrounding land? Who would make the most by seeing the prison moved.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    June 13, 2013 6:50 a.m.

    It should be required if the prison is moved. That the land be used as a park. That way we can be sure, that moving the prison was done for the right reasons, and not as a pay back to the campaign donations, the politicians who are making the decision, received.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2013 11:14 p.m.

    "New prison relocation effort begins with a question: Does a move make sense?"


    I strongly suspect that it only makes sense if one is able to determine who is most likely to gain from the use of the current property. Most likely some well-connected land developers.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 12, 2013 10:00 p.m.

    Does a move make cents?

    To the real estate lobby firmly entrenched in Utah Government at the highest levels, the answer is a resounding YES!

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    Don't move it. Who cares if it looks run down or outdated. Fix what needs to be fixed. After all, it's a prison. It shouldn't look like a place you would want to go to.

  • Straitpath PROVO, UT
    June 12, 2013 8:16 p.m.

    Believe me, folks, this is a done deal.