Utah slammed for lax cockfighting law

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  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    Taking enjoyment in watching two chickens or dogs literally kill each other is not far removed from beating one's wife or children or attacking someone with a knife. This is because all these things involve the same sort of moral callousness and depravity.

    Another problem is that cockfighting is a notable part of Mexican culture and Utah has the fastest-growing population of illegally present, non-culturally assimilated Mexicans in the United States. That's not "racism" on my part; instead it is a fact. Arguably, therefore, NOW is an excellent time to dramatically elevate the penalty for cockfighting in Utah. Of course self-centered special interests in Utah who want illegal aliens in Utah to feel "right at home" will lobby and pay off Utah's corrupt legislature to block any such legislation.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    June 13, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    So, accepting as fact the correlation and causation between despicable animal cruelty and even more heinous mistreatment of humans, neither of which are severely punished now, how will passing another law fix the problem?

    It will not. It is merely the typical symbolic, feel good, "must pass a law" approach that liberals favor to "fix" most problems, while they later come back and argue against enforcement because the alleged perp was spanked as a kid, or drank sugary drinks.

    Passing more laws does not fix anything. Moses had a mere 10 which were pretty good, but humans seem to just ignore laws and commit evil acts.

    Enforce the laws we have before passing new laws.

  • ColletteG Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2013 7:30 p.m.

    Oatmeal, using the non-existence of results from studies which haven't been performed is certainly a novel way to attempt to prove your premise. Points for creativity.

    However, studies *have* been done that prove both co-relation and causation between the likelihood that people (or kids) who abuse animals, also abusing humans.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    June 12, 2013 4:21 p.m.


    Correlation doesn't prove causation. Generations of human beings engaged in "blood sports," et there are no studies that have demonstrated that violence against humans has declined since many of these sports have been banned.

  • UtahVET1 Sandy, Utah
    June 12, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    cockfighting as a felony, as soon as they lockup rapist and child predators for the rest of their lives then I will support this. Also when your first DUI is charged as a felony.

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    June 12, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    DN Subscriber,

    I am sorry that you take God's commandment to be a steward unto the earth so lackadaisically. To also indict those people who object to having their heritage stereotyped and abused by a school mascot (something that has nothing to do with the article) is not surprising, as you seem to deem anyone and everyone who is different from you as inferior. Highlighting the problems of the federal government is also irrelevant to this article. Why did you even bring it up? Trying to obfuscate?

    As Collete said, those who abuse animals often abuse humans. I have no problem with a felony charge for this crime. If you don't want the felony, don't do the crime. It's very simple.

  • NoMad Grantsville, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    How many people have you seen charged for Bigamy as this is a misdemeanor and polygamy as a felony? When will uncle sam let us free?

  • ColletteG Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:16 p.m.

    Prosecuting animal cruelty is never a waste of time. People who commit acts of violence against animals often go on to commit acts of violence against humans. A 1997 study discovered that 40% of convicted animal abusers had committed acts of violence against people. In another study, 70% of animal abusers had records for other crimes. 13% of animal abuse convictions reveal a history of domestic violence.

    Other studies have shown that exposing children to animal cruelty carries long-term developmental and psychological implications, among them a desensitization to violence, and an inability to empathize with others. Children exposed to animal cruelty are also more likely to engage in abusive behaviors.

    Cockfighting is a brutal, bloody business with no social or cultural value. Nor is this a matter of (as one lawmaker put it) "making criminals out of good people".

    Good people don't force animals to maim and kill each other. "Good people" don't attend cockfights and they don't bring their children to cockfights. Deliberate, considered, and sociopathic behavior should be prosecuted as a felony.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Let's get serious here.

    Cockfighting is somewhere near the bottom of a long list of issues that people should care about. Somewhere around the level of changing sports team names which might offend someone, or how college football championships are determined.

    Besides, we are seeing that you can pass whatever laws you want, but it is totally irrelevant because laws are ignored daily, on both trivial and serious matters.

    We are trillions of dollars in debt, have millions of people here illegally, the government is arming Mexican drug gangs, Obama is spying on law abiding citizens, and the IRS is engaged in voter suppression, and millions of people are abusing welfare and disability programs. And the Salt Lake Police Chief refuses to do anything to criminals who should not even be in the country.

    So, cockfighting is despicable and immoral, but as far as further criminalization that will not be enforced, as Rhett Butler said, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a ..."

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:03 p.m.

    Is this really a big problem in Utah? How many arrest were made last year for cockfighting? Felonies should be reserved for the most heinous offenses. If everything is a felony, than it dilutes the truly despicable acts that warrant a felony offense.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    June 12, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    Felony? Let's get serious here. Cock fighting might be dumb, it might be cruel, it might be a silly waste of time--but it is not a felony. Felony should be reserved for crimes against humans, not against animals--regardless of the wrong.