Utah business leaders push for immigration reform

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  • RBB Sandy, UT
    June 14, 2013 6:32 a.m.

    The great irony here is that the Democratic politicians are willing to harm their base (blue collar workers) to get millions of new Democratic votes. The Republican politicians are willing to allow millions of new Democratic voters (ending any change of the Republicans controlling Congress or the White House) to satisfy a few big money contributors who will fund their personal political campaigns. While for me this will mean cheaper goods and services as I can pay someone minimum wage to mow my lawn, it will harm my community as the wages for entry level/lower-skilled jobs will be suppressed.

    Finally, there is the moral hazard. If you cheat and come here illegally, you get citizenship while the poor people who actually tried to follow the rules and apply to immigrate sit in their countries with a slim hope of ever making it to America.

    Doesn't it make you proud to be an American?

  • hubbardesquire Alabaster, Alabama
    June 12, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    All that these so-called "business leaders" want is cheap, third-world-like wages to be paid to workers who cannot get anything that is better because the job market is flooded with foreign nationals. Anyone who knows basic economics knows about supply and demand. Come on "business leaders," spit out the gum!

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    June 11, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    The American people should be number one not the illegals. There is a lot of twisted thinking. Hopefully we will be able to find someone in authority who has a backbone. But at this point there doesn't seem to be much hope. Politicians think of their own personal needs and wants ahead of the citizens....doesn't sound normal to me.

  • Ronald Mortensen Bountiful, Utah
    June 11, 2013 7:21 p.m.

    Of course the Salt Lake Chamber and employers of illegal aliens like this bill. It grants employers amnesty from hiring illegal aliens and allows them to keep their illegal alien employees who will continue to use Social Security numbers that belong to Utah kids until they receive their own numbers.

    It grants amnesty from unpaid payroll and other taxes to employers who hired illegal aliens off the books or as "independent" contractors.

    It gives employers a whole new source of illegal aliens once the 11 million are granted provisional legal status by failing to secure the borders and delaying the implementation of E-Verify for years.

    It allows employers to pay low wages to their newly legalized workers and pass the cost on to taxpayers through state welfare programs that will be accessed by their low cost employees.

    It requires illegal aliens granted provisional status to remain employed which gives employers an inordinate amount of power over them by threatening to fire them and then making sure that they never get another job.

    And it lets employers who have contributed to massive illegal alien, job-related child identity theft totally off of the hook for their despicable acts.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Really, this "immigration reform" talk is sort of wasted effort.

    Those who came here illegally already have proven they will ignore our laws, and that they do so with impunity.

    Our government, in the Obama administration has shown that IT ignores many of our laws, also without any consequences.

    Why should ANY American care about any of our laws since the only people who seem to bother to obey them are hard working taxpayers who end up supporting the lawbreakers?

    Really, give what is going on, why should Any American obey any of our laws?

    Fairness, justice, equal treatment under the law, and trials by a jury of our peers should demand that we be allowed no more prosecution or punishment than is being meted out to illegal aliens or the Obama administration.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2013 1:25 a.m.

    Immigration "reform". One big fight over a bill no one likes. Lets pick up the low hanging fruit.

    The visa bill that Sen. Lee had and Sen. Hatch put in the the larger immigration bill. The I-Squared Act. Lets pull it back out and pass it separately.

    We need to fix legal immigration. The best plan I have seen is to have a decent no quota but sponsored system of immigration with the ability later to become a citizen, Rep. Dougall's bill 2011 HB 469 in 2011 has the first part of that.

    We need a simple E-Verify law for companies 15 or larger to protect against ID theft.

    If the "big" US immigration bill passes it will just further divide us, just like the attempt to combine immigration bills in to one bill, 2011 HB 116 did. You get a bill that no one really likes. We need more consensus building and less compromise. If we focus on what we agree on, we can accomplish the most good.

    Congress should run a bunch of small simple bills. Then we actually may get something that will help business, families, and our nation.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    June 10, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    The Republican Party seems to have a death wish. The greedy business members of my party need not apply for my sympathy when this amnesty adds 11 million new Democratic voters to the electorate. I'm hoping the Democratic majority these immigrants help elect will raise the taxes on all the greedy business owners that want this amnesty. There's no such thing as cheap labor, just cheap employers.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    Let the radicals of the right elect Democrats for the next fifty years.

  • sally Kearns, UT
    June 10, 2013 8:18 p.m.

    Immigration reform needs to be combined with welfare reform. When an illegal/work visa has a baby in America, it should not automatically become a citizen which opens the door to welfare benefits. As long as one can receive welfare benefits, they will continue to bring additional family to America to take advantage. There is no incentive to Americanize. Before 1960 immigrants came to America without welfare. It was sink or swim for them. No freebies. We are too good to them today. They have learned how to take advantage of the American Citizen. No gratitude, just greed! The businesses have also learned how to take advantage of them by paying low wages, many times under the table cash. They make up the difference with welfare. What I have read about this immigration bill, I do not like it. The skilled American Citizen needs employment before foreigners.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    June 10, 2013 7:58 p.m.

    We don't add new jobs with visas, we replace Americans.

    Why don't the business owners come to our houses and steal from us, face to face?

    I would like to see the ad, with the 48 businesses. It's time labor struck back at business for trying to circumvent our labor laws.

  • Nosea Forest Grove, OR
    June 10, 2013 7:47 p.m.

    Why exactly do we need to enlarge our workforce by importing more immigrants, at a time when unemployment is the highest ever for US citizens? We already have roughly 14% of our work force unemployed, or underemployed, and we are in a rush to increase the number of workers? It makes no sense at all, unless the greed of the top 1% is the only priority in our nation.

    When is our government going to pay attention to the huddled masses right here in the US, instead of always only catering to elite business leaders?

    June 10, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    Let's try something different. Enforce the laws, and business stops being dishonest.