Utah becoming too reliant on accolades, economist warns

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  • Grateful4 Orem, UT
    June 11, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    Also, lest we get too proud of our achievements, remember what we're being compared to. When you see so many states so badly mismanaged like CA, it's not like it's a shining endorsement of our own capabilities in management to say that we're doing it better. We still have a long way to go in making improvements.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 11, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    "Good is the enemy of great!".

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    June 11, 2013 10:44 a.m.


    I can't think of a single REAL educational reform that can be implemented without increasing spending. A large number of great ideas in education hit a brick wall BECAUSE of Utah's lack of education funding.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    June 11, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    Utah does okay with state management, but the real reason Utah is fine and will be fine for a long time is that we have a young demographic that is much more in line with a growing, prosperous country. The US, Europe and most other first world countries are built on systems of payment that are essentially Ponzi schemes, spending money today assuming the rising generation will pay it back. That works when the population base grows, but not when it slows or drops, as it is now doing in the US and Europe. Utahns have more kids and that growth covers up a lot of systemic problems.

    (And yes, Doug, it means we spend less per pupil on education, but I'm tired of hearing arguments on that front alone...at some point, it isn't the spending that matters, it is the outcomes, and too many people think giving the government more money will magically solve issue, when it won't. Our approach to education is outdated and inefficient. Luckily, many parents here make up the difference, which is why Utah can spend less and get more, though there is plenty of room for improvement.)

  • JHP Okemos, MI
    June 11, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    I agree 100%. I get really tired of hearing about the state's rankings over, and over, and over again from the governor and other politicians. Utah is doing great overall as a state, but we can improve so much more.

    Even if the state were #1 in every imaginable category...who cares? We want to be the best we can be regardless of what other states are doing -- don't measure your success based on the failings of others.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 11, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    A great insight from ssomeone who has worked in the midst of things for over 30 years.

    Utah needs help with education!

    Are there any plans besides to factor in fiscal restraint, pay teachers less and increase the size of the classroom thus wringing every last bit out of the education dollars spent.

    At the same time the students are presented with less of an education, the scores in math and science pale against those of other countries, and yet Utah continues to excel at mediocrity in these subjects.

    So Utah has figured a way to help the students compete in the world......allow the teachers to pack guns at school.

    We are the example follow us.