'Polygamy,' the Broadway play: Mormon controversy on stage nearly 100 years before 'Book of Mormon' musical

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  • Piret Clifton, NJ
    July 7, 2013 12:03 a.m.

    I have to agree with you Chris B. Anyone anywhere can make fun of any other religious belief except a Muslim one. Strange.

    June 13, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    The Scientist and others claiming to be agnostic/atheistic/secular humanist (here and in other places) throw out the challenge to provide proof, yet drop undocumented bombshells such as that last paragraph beginning "Even as long as 14 years after the Manifesto..."
    Did he read the entire Manifesto and recognize that those not following would be doing so in conflict with the directive of the president of the LDS Church? Did he read Woodruff's response when Woodruff heard about unauthorized marriages? Does he give any credence to the LDS position that their president exercises complete authority over all "eternal marriages" performed by any other LDS leader or priesthood holder?
    Who were the top leaders he mentioned, and where is his documentation?
    What does "The Scientist" know about the science of history? Seems to me he is avoiding all the controls to get the story right.
    BTW my documentation is right there in the Doctrine & Covenants: Manifesto

  • The Scientist Provo, UT
    June 12, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    The only reason the Mormon Church (that had fled the United States in order to continue practicing polygamy) gave up the practice was because they wanted Statehood for Utah, and the Federal Government was taking away Church property because they continued to break the law by practicing polygamy.

    Even as long as 14 years after the "Manifesto" that officially ended polygamy in the Mormon Church, top leaders were performing polygamous marriages and even taking multiple wives, in direct violation of the law, and contrary to their leaders' testimony before the United States Congress that they had ceased polygamy.

    June 12, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    Interesting how an article can bring all sorts of irrelevant topics out of the woodwork. Where did the original article say anything at all about liberals, rock concerts and Muslims?
    There are those few commentators who want to turn anything at all the DesNews publishes on religion into a platform to promote their own prejudicial ideology. Why can't we have a discussion that's germane to the topic?

  • Just Wanted to Say Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Kathybeebee, although the link in the article goes to something that doesn't mention polygamy, if you Google "B.H. Roberts congress polygamy", you can find a couple of documents talking about how he was denied his seat because of polygamy. There were Reed Smoot hearings that involved polygamy as well, though.

  • kathybeebee Ephrata, WA
    June 11, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    I thought it was Reed Smoot, not BH Roberts, who was denied his seat in Congress over polygamy.

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    June 10, 2013 6:35 p.m.


    I don't know why you chose to take a shot at my name; that's really classy. You chose to ignore my point, obfuscated by cherry-picking what part of the quote to respond to out of context, and further obfuscated by bringing up USA stats. Clearly, you don't care to have a discussion. I am happy to respect your decision and wish you well.


    I understand your point and that you don't find Chris' comments to be as I characterized them. To be fair, I was referring to his comments towards Islam in the aggregate. Anytime a story comes up that he can somehow discuss his feelings about Islam (as he chose to do here, interesting as the article has nothing to do with that religion) he chooses to stereotype the entire faith as terrorism-loving and an altogether murderous bunch of ruffians. What is most ironic, is that he does not seem to believe the Catholic faith (which he claims to follow) with its similar history was in the wrong. Chris is not the only one who chooses to display religious bigotry on these comment boards, but he is perhaps the most vocal.

  • Abeille West Haven, Utah
    June 10, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    Claudio -

    Interesting. I'm not usually someone that supports Chris B's comments, but I didn't read 'demonization and denigration' into his statements. When I read his comments, I read that he finds it 'hypocritical' that some would villianize one group for 'hate speech', such as statements against the Muslim faith, while championing the same type of villianization of another group (in this case, the Mormons). He pins this hypocrisy on the 'Liberals' and, although I disagree with this being a 'Liberals' thing, I think he has a point (IMHO, Anyone can be a hypocrite - be they liberal or conservative). It is hypocritical to champion something that belittles any faith, such as the Mormons, when you would not condone the same belittling speech of tenets of the Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Evangelical, or whatever other fath you'd like to mention. It is hypocritical. It is bigotry. And, as weird as it may sound, it is hate speech - every bit as much against a Mormon as it is against a Muslim (or whatever beliefs any hold dear - even atheism).

    Oh, and for full-disclosure purposes, I am a Mormon with many Muslim friends.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2013 2:43 p.m.


    "I couldn't care less what he does"'

    That is true, until its a Quran he tears apart. And then all liberals will jump to the defense of all Muslims and will defend any ensuing violence and blame it on whoever offended Islam.

    Did you know there are MORE Mormons than Muslims in the USA?

    And yet even with larger numbers, I still have yet to hear of a single death threat coming from the Mormons over the tearing of the Book of Mormon.

    Again, were it a Quran, does anyone doubt threats of violence would immediately come?

    Curious, if Mormons outnumber Muslims in this country.

    Mormons - I dislike your missionaries, your doctrine, and your attitude towards non-Mormons.

    However, I thank you for not being terrorists, I thank you for not threatening violence when someone makes fun of your religion. And I thank you for being morale people by large.

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    June 10, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    Chris B,

    There are over a billion Muslims in the world. Around 15 million Mormons. Is it surprising that the small number of extremists happen to be more vocal among the larger religion that, FYI, has more followers outside of the Middle East (where culture, not religion dictates social norms)? No, not at all.

    I don't know what your obsession of demonizing all Muslims (and always comparing them to Mormons, of which you claim not to be a follower) stems from, but it is getting rather old.

    No, I didn't know a rocker ripped a Book of Mormon. The guy is a nut case (as I assume you are referring to the Manson concert), so I couldn't care less what he does. The outrage you attribute to Muslims stems from Christians who deliberately attempt to aggravate Muslims and seek to do so in a very public way. If you want to provoke a tiger to attack you, it isn't that hard to do it.

    Civility loses out because people like you choose to demonize and denigrate entire populations (a full 14% of the world in this case) based on the actions of a relative minority. Shame.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    Though not Mormon, I strongly dislike the fact it is ok to laugh and mock Mormons,Christians, Jews and yet liberals are always against any joking of speaking ill of Muslims.


    Did you know last week HERE in Utah a famous rockstar ripped a book of Mormon while performing and threw the book in the crowd?

    You didn't?

    How surprising(NOT).

    Can you imagine if any rocker ripped a Quran as part of his act?

    Every news station in the country would be covering it and the aftermath daily.

    It is highly probably there would be death threats from the offended religion, as there are any time someone even threatens to hurt a copy of their book.

    Liberal hypocrites.

    Let's summarize the differences if there were Quran/Book of Mormon

    Rip a book of Mormon - media says nothing, liberals not outraged, Mormons forgive and move on

    rip a Quran - media goes crazy, liberals outraged, death threats abound

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 10, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    So interesting the country has welcomed the Book of Mormon play with open arms, and leaving full of laughs.

    Can you imagine if a similar play was done on Muslims and the Quran?

    would the liberals be applauding the play as they do the Book of Mormon?

    Interesting I have yet to hear of a single death threat from the Mormons as a result of the play.

    Would the same hold true if it were the Quran?