Airport security could use some common sense

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  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    June 9, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    How many terrorists have been discovered by TSA? The last time I checked: ZERO! How many terrorists, or presumed terrorists, got on planes with our TSA in place? You make your list. I have mine. Tell us how many planes had to be diverted because some "nut" wanted to open the door, or some PILOT went "nuts".

    The TSA has done nothing.

    Many of you hold on to your "security blankets" and suck your thumb, just like some of my toddler grandchildren. They feel safe. They have no idea that its their parents who are keeping them from harm, not the blanket.

    The government is incapable of keeping us safe. Look at Benghazi. Look at Ft. Hood. Look at any murder in any city at any time, day or night. Talk to those where were raped. Ask them if they called for help. Where was the government? Where was safety?

    Get over your desire to be "safe" and get on with your responsibility to stop looking to Washington for protection. Obama tells us that he is not aware of terrorist actions. He claims that we have nothing more to fear. Famous last words.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    June 9, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    Anti Bush-Obama,

    Maybe you have not seen it, but the record has been good. I'll take it (and the lack of common sense mixed with the sensible stuff too).

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 9, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    @Mike Richards

    Your quote was "So, they carefully take away one freedom at a time, all the while assuring us that "security" is more important than freedom"

    You know, that is a reasonable statement. We see employers do the same, slowly eroding employe benefits. Companies used to offer retirement plans, fully paid medical benefits, company Christmas parties, and picnics in the summer. In most large organizations, those are slipping away. My company had its last christmas party 3 years ago after having it for 27. Employ contribution to health increased, company retirements reduced.

    But on the secirty side, these things have not happened in a void. We saw what happens when you don't get early knowledge of events early on. 9/11 wasn't the only event, but the capstone to a series of many events. The downing of the LWA flight over Scotland. It was not a singular event.

    Since the TSA has been in place, we have gone 12 years without event. We had never gone they length before. LIke it or not, what Bush put in with congresses approval... is working. It response to a very real threat... not just sheep wrangling.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    June 9, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    Maybe you have to have a farm/ranch background to appreciate the symbolism of the TSA. Those of us who grew up on farms and ranches used dogs and "hot shots" to keep the sheep and cows from straying from the flock or from the herd. We knew that if they knew we were "boss" that they would do anything that we demanded, right up to the moment that they entered the slaughterhouse.

    The government is doing a fine job of "training" us to accept its authority over us. If they tried to do it all at once, they would have a "stampede". So, they carefully take away one freedom at a time, all the while assuring us that "security" is more important than freedom. We did the same thing with the sheep and with the cows as we looked forward to those juicy mutton chops and those tender steaks.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    June 8, 2013 10:31 a.m.

    I have yet to see the TSA thwart a single terrorist attack.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    June 8, 2013 1:11 a.m.

    The pilots and flight crew in the 9/11 hijackings were taken out by box cutters. The terrorists held the passengers at bay, except for Flight 93, by pretending to have explosive devices. The passengers of Flight 93, perhaps through cell phone communication, learned of the intentions of the hijackers and took action.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    June 7, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    I agree mostly with the column. Common sense is lacking not just with the TSA, but with schools, who nowadays routinely suspend 5, 6, 7 yr olds for pretending to shoot finger guns, or even saying the word gun, etc etc. Where I disagree is that I don't think anyone will ever again be able to hijack a plane with a pocket knife, and I was actually happy about the prospect (now cancelled) of being about to bring on onto a plane again. In some cases, it could save me a $25 baggage fee (otherwise I have to check the knife). I take my Swiss Army knife everywhere, like a good boy scout, and it comes in handy nearly daily for scissors, knife, screwdrivers etc. Does anyone else think someone could hijack a plane with a pocket knife, or do you agree that the other passengers would just kill him with their bare hands?

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    It's like being in military basic training, no smart talk, follow the regulations, use caution, leave your guns at home and you will go through security much faster. I don't understand, but can live with taking my sandals off. The biggest problem for me is non-uniformity aka the agent's discretion. One TSA agent allows a rat tail comb or other mundane item while another agent confiscates it.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2013 11:57 p.m.

    Taking off Sandals, belts, etc. it silly.

    We are harassing ourselves and have given our freedom away to some uneducated TSA screener to decide if we deserve more harassing as we go through their screening procedure.

    We have no recourse but to go along with it.

    One comment from us and we miss our plane. We are powerless in that situation.

    It is lame.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    June 6, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    Go watch Airplane II and the security check scene. We have nearly reached this absurdity.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 6, 2013 5:05 p.m.

    I fly a lot... and to me, this piece lacks common sense. Do we really need to turn the cabin of our jet liners into airborne versions of latin American regional buses? Why in the heck does junior need their 3 foot long plastic bat in flight? Is there a compelling reason lacrosse sticks will add to the comfort of the flying public?

    Similarly, it you don't want your six year old girls to get a pat down... it really is a simple process. Don't have her wear metal as she goes through the scanner... just like everyone else. Its kind of a binary decision. Is there a compelling reason 6 year olds need to get a pass... exempt from the rules for everyone else?

    And no... they are not searching the baby. Even the most average TSA person understands the baby itself will not try to take over a plane. But please, don't tell me it never passed your cranium the idea that some less than honorable parents wouldn't try to use the babies carrier as a place to smuggle things on board.

    Check Juniors bat in your bags, for the rest of us, he will survive.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 6, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Common sense and the government are mutually exclusive.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 6, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    I wonder if it would be better to look for people, rather than things?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 6, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    It could use common sense, but who's common sense? That sort of thing varies from person to person.