BYU basketball: Agustin Ambrosino leaves BYU basketball team

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  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    May 28, 2013 1:26 p.m.


    It's truly amazing how frantic and emotional you're getting trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

    A couple of players leaving the BYU after one year because they weren't getting much playing time, weren't contributing much, and/or weren't cutting it academically isn't even a blip on the radar. There are literally dozens of players who leave highly successful programs every year for similar reasons, most of them much better players than these two.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 26, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    "Sorry that these guys didn't pan out. Better to cut your losses than carry dead wood. BYU will be just fine."

    It's truly amazing how poorly byu fans speak of those who've played for byu.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    May 26, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    Sorry that these guys didn't pan out. Better to cut your losses than carry dead wood. BYU will be just fine. Now eutah, that's another story.

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    May 25, 2013 10:56 p.m.

    These kids left because they could not contribute on the court as far as academics we'll never know. The grants are free to use next year or to pick up any of the three kids still being recruited. BYU has had a 100% grad rate for the last several years and the kids coming in have to have very good grades to begin with. The 68th best school in the country (Best Schools 2013) has a pretty tough competitive enviorment meaning they have to pass on many kids. In looking at football recruiting the staff is concentrating on Catholic schools to supplement the LDS kids and that seems to be paying off very well, Getting the staff out of Utah County is a major accomplishment it may be a long time before they leave the country to find kids. If I had any imput, Australia, Canada, are certainly worthy of investing a few weeks every few years. "Red Flags" not with a top 10 class in 13 and a very decent one for 14

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    May 25, 2013 10:36 p.m.

    Possibilities ---

    Jamal Aytes Scout 3 Stars
    Ht: 6-6 Wt: 225 
    High School:Junipero Serra Catholic HS
    (San Juan Capistrano, CA)
    Schools of Interest:
    SchoolInterest LevelOffer
    ButlerMed Interest No, BYU Med Interest No,  Miami (Fl)Med InterestNo,  Utah Med InterestNo,  Virginia Commonwealth Med Interest No 

    Trey Mason Scout 2 Stars
    Ht: 6-2 Wt: 190 
    Year:Class of 2013
    High School:Loyola HS
    (Los Angeles, CA)
    Schools of Interest:
    SchoolInterest LevelOffer?
    BrownMed InterestNoNone 
    BYUMed InterestNoNone 
    ColoradoMed InterestNoNone 
    ColumbiaMed InterestNoNone 
    CornellMed InterestNoNone 
    PortlandMed InterestNoNone 
    Utah ValleyMed InterestNoNone 

    Trey Dickerson Scout 2 Stars
    Ht: 6-1 Wt: 175 
    Year:Class of 2013
    High School:God’s Academy
    (Dallas, TX)
    Schools of Interest:
    SchoolInterest LevelOffer?
    BYU Med Interest No, Duquesne Med Interest Yes,  Georgia Tech Med No, MarylandMed Interest No, Mississippi Med Interest No,  Montana StMed Interest No,  Seattle Med Interest Yes, Siena Med Interest No,  St. Peter'sMed Interest No,  Washington State Med Interest No 

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    May 25, 2013 10:06 p.m.

    In a short period the two JC's (Delgado, Ambrosino) were signed, along with Harward and Austin returning from missions. They were all clearly recruits with little athletism and weak scoring abilities. Why Rose and staff felt the need to bring in the four was a huge head scrather. What has happened since season's end was totally predicatble. To sign a JC kid with dubious talent when you had so much potential only needing decent players who could add to the inside scoring and hopefully help out the poor 3 pt game, just makes no sense. For the kids they had just two years left and now one is done completely wasted. Too bad the two juniors couldn't have gone onto smaller schools where they could have contributed. I wish I were a fly on the wall and had some idea what was going through the staff's collective mindet. When you add in the existing dead wood Zyistra, Sharp, Cusick, you had 7 players who totaled 14 points and 14 rebounds per game. Haws and Davies should have sued the athletic department for lack of support.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 25, 2013 7:55 p.m.

    "The program is in trouble."

    Because two not so great players left? You have no clue who is even coming in. BYU is getting stacked. Follow the program before you make such ridiculous remarks. BYU is not utah...not even close. Two programs headed in opposite directions.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 25, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    "What comes around, goes around I guess."

    Wishful thinking by a Ute after coming full circle with his own two lost basketball seasons.

    It's not hard to read and understand historical fact. These guys are moving on for obvious reasons or they would be staying if they merited the opportunity.

    These sad Ute fans would like to have some company in their basketball misery.

    Ain't happening.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    May 25, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    Too funny that all the byU "fans" are now saying that these players "did not warrant a scholarship" and "they lacked talent". I think a Dave Rose led byU program is really going to struggle next year.

    What comes around, goes around I guess.

  • Bomar Roberts, ID
    May 24, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    My hopes have come to fruition. Since early February I have noted more than once, that the three Amigos had to find a new home. Their talent level did not warrant a scholarship nor did they contribute to the on court success of the team. People wonder what their infractions were. Their only infraction were lack of talent. Coach Rose could have found better players on intramural teams.

    May 24, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    I knew Auggie a little when he was at SLCC. Good kid, and I would've liked to have seen him go somewhere where he could contribute more, so it's too bad it didn't happen at BYU. He's a very versatile player, and hopefully can go somewhere and be a contributor.

  • JayDee West Jordan, UT
    May 24, 2013 3:32 p.m.

    @ Go Utes!

    Sure as the sun rises in the east, I knew a comment would come comparing Ambrosino's departure to what has happened with the Utes.

    Prior to last year, most of the Ute defections were good players abandoning what was obviously a sinking ship. Many left because the coach/staff who recruited them also left. That's ok. A couple may have been injuries.

    It seems to me that other than injury, BYU defections were players who left because they would not get the playing time they thought they deserved. The writing was likely on the wall.

    If Delgado and Ambrosino end up doing as well as Marshall Henderson, Carlon Brown, and Will Clyburn then I suppose it is an apples to apples comparison. But, don't hold your breath.

    I too would like to see a good big or two fill out the roster.

    Go Cougars!

  • diggs76 Tooele, UT
    May 24, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    What ever happened to Isaac Neilson? Is he off his mission yet? Is he coming back? He is 6'10" and was a stud coming out of high school.

  • Ironhide Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    Oy. Some of the comments here could tone down the drama quite a bit. I'm glad Rose will let people go if they don't contribute like he hoped. It's better for both parties to go their way if the player isn't going to play as much as either had hoped.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 24, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    @trentster - "The program is in trouble."


    Here's who is in the pipeline: Mika, Worthington, Shaw, Neilsen, Chatman, Emery, Haws, Collinsworth, Calvert, Hartsock, Toolsen and Nixon. And still in the hunt for Chapman and Dastrup. Dastrup would complete a Superstar lineup. The program has never been in better shape.

    As for 2013/2014, I expect a similar result to last year. We will be a borderline NCAA team, with 23 to 26 wins. 2014/15 should be a lock for NCAA. 2016 - 2018 should be a Sweet Sixteen or better.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    May 24, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    To J-TX:

    Seriously dude, is the best comment contribution you can make to this sports article just an austere orthography lesson and nothing else? But if you somehow feel it was a genuine addition, then thank you.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    May 24, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    It is interesting that the BYU Basketball program appears to be going in circles with players leaving and new ones coming in. First, as one comment above outlines, it appears as though Ambrosino may have become a casualty of an academic issue. This is also a reflection on the B-ball program for not watching out for their players. While all programs go through times of transition, it seems as though the recruiting is only focused on the guard position. I also notice that most of the recruiting is local in nature. BYU needs big, athletic players and I just don't see this focus in their recruiting. They seem to be loosing their depth at these positions and not filling them. Take a look at the top NCAA teams from this last year and you see big, athletic players running the floor.

  • Ford DeTreese Provo, UT
    May 24, 2013 9:32 a.m.


    Not in two years, but maybe in three or four, when they've got Mika, Emery, Tyler's little brother, Chatman, Hartsock, and Nixon back from missions and add in a few other good recruits. Then we'll see Rose's recruiting pay off.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    May 24, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    Addition by subtraction. Cougs goin deeper into ncaa this year than ever before. Best recruiting class except for duke and Kentucky. In two years, cougs will be light'in up tvs across the world as they win national championship!

  • trentster TUSTIN, CA
    May 24, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    The program is in trouble. I believe it is highly unlikely they will improve upon last year's record, which was just average--in BYU terms. Carlino is inconsistent and Haws is very good, that is it! Collinsworth will need time to adjust, and he is not Haws, so do not expect him have the year Haws had, coming off of mission. Mika could very well be the key to having a successful season. Too bad the best player in the program, aside from Haws, is on a mission in Germany. Going the J.C. route as often as coach has recently shows some desperation and his lack of being able to properly prepare for establishing a roster that can compete with the big schools, even the Gonzagas and St. Marys of the new conference as well as the NCAA upper echelon programs.

    May 24, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    Good he was not very good. Last years JC guys were not what they were billed to be, but Rose has gone out and recruited very well this year to make up for it. Shows how good of a coach he is. He went out and is trying to fix the problem.

  • truebluecougar Orem, Utah
    May 24, 2013 8:19 a.m.

    Neither Delgado nor Ambrosino had a clue of how to play defense. When you aren't contributing to the offense, the writing was on the wall. The depth at the bigs is not impacted by the loss of Ambrosino since he was not a contributor all season long and probably would not be a factor in 2013/2014 had he stayed around. I wish both players success in the future and hope BYU can find a "stray" out there that can provide backup support and play defense.

    Go Cougs!

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    May 24, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    I was unhappy with these two recruits when they came in and doubted they would add much.

    I am sorry that I was correct in my assessment -- but much more disappointed that I was correct. They are a huge red flag that BYU Basketball is struggling in recruiting JC or international talent.

    St. Mary's and Gonzaga get it done. BYU used to have a ton of great foreign players come in who added a lot to the Cougars. C;mon Rose. BYU has needed more "bigs" with talent for years!

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    May 24, 2013 7:22 a.m.

    @ Tators:

    It's "ebb and flow", as in the movement of the tides.

    Not "Eb and Flo", your Denny's waitresses.

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    May 24, 2013 6:12 a.m.

    BYU only has 5 returning players?

    Utah has 6. My whole world just kinda flipped upside down with this information. The U returning more players than they Y. Whoda thunk it.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 23, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    I don't know why he Ambrosino left BYU and I don't need to know. Like some of the other posters, I thought he could develop into a big man who could stretch the defense, much like Stephen Rogers did. But it never came together for him.

    I don't think he would've played more than a few minutes a game, but he did offer an option at the 3 or 4 position.

    This makes me think that we're more likely to see Kaufusi back for another year. At the 4 and 5 positions, we have likely starters Mika and Austin, and back-ups Worthington and Sharp with Kaufusi as the unknown.

    With Sharp's injuries, and Mika and Worthington's inexperience I'd feel a lot better with one more big on the roster.

    But I'm very excited about Carlino, Collinsworth and Haws at the guard positions.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 23, 2013 6:11 p.m.


    I don't need to know that. I have no way of knowing if you know that. Therefore I choose not to know that.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Good luck guys. Things don't always work out, but you go with best wishes. Those who are looking for a scandal will be disappointed.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 23, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    I've heard we're closing to signing Jamal Aytes a 6'6" 225 lb PF from the state of California. He'll be a freshman so he probably won't contribute much but he has a reputation for being tough around the basket and good in the paint.

    It's unfortunate that Auggie couldn't stick around. He has really good size and a unique skill set that I think would have eventually improved with more time in the system. Having a big guy who can shoot over the perimeter defense would present a matchup problem for other teams. I don't think he would've been anything more than a role player but having role players on a basketball team is a good thing. They give you options.

    Best of luck to Auggie and Delgado and hope they do well where ever they end up.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    May 23, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    Some people are trying to make this a bigger deal than it really is and trying to complicate more than they should. It's something that happens regularly in all major sports programs.

    JV players will come in to a bigger program with the hope of making a splash and hopefully starting. When that doesn't happen within a year, they sometimes decide they would rather go back to a smaller program where they can have more playing time again.

    It's not rocket science. It's happened before, is happening now, and will happen again in the future. No one should get too excited when it does. It's simply the eb and flo of how things work in the sports world.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    May 23, 2013 1:32 p.m.

    So where does thi leave BYU. I think in the guard rotation they will be fine but there is a lack of depth at PF and C. Who is available that can contribute there?

  • Tajemnica West Valley, Utah
    May 23, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    The worst thing about situations similar to these is that because it is BYU people are always going to be wondering what the students did. Are they honor code violations? Academic? Etc.. I obviously don't know the details myself of this particular situation but I feel bad for any student athlete that chooses to leave BYU for personal reasons and not for violations that are targeted by unknowing outsiders as having done something morally, legally, or ethically wrong.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    May 23, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    Augustin Left becauwe he failed a class and was academically ineligble at BYU.

  • rph Arlington, VA
    May 23, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    Yeah, not a big deal. These guys did not contribute and probably wouldn't have next year. Just hope that we can use this spot for good.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    Sort of odd that all these people are leaving the program. Did Delgado and Ambrosino just not fit in at BYU, or were they unhappy about the lack of playing time? We need to pick up some big men. Fast.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    May 23, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    Unfortunately, Delgado and Ambrosino were given a chance, but never contributed much while they were on the court. In the long run, this is addition by subtraction for the BYU basketball program.

    Good luck to Raul and Agustin wherever your future pursuits lead you.