BYU baseball: Cougars upset No. 13 Arizona State, 8-3

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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 25, 2013 12:38 p.m.

    USD 7 byu 4....LOLLOL

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 24, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    @AZUTE1 sad and pathetic that comment was.

    But we've kind of come to expect that from you :)

    BTW, BYU 8 Gonzaga 1. Cougs just knocked the #1 seed out of the tourney. I'm hoping USF beats SD so we get a shot at redemption tonight.

    Go Cougars!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    May 24, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    BYU 8 Gonzaga (#1 seed) 1...LOL

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 24, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    USD 9 byu 8....LOL

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 23, 2013 10:27 p.m.


    Get well soon!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 23, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    @ AZute
    We're glad you're commenting on a blog of a winning team, who wins in their conference and non-conference. Come get your therapy on the cougar board, where we put the smack down on weak PAC teams.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    May 23, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    The Utes are 6-21 in the PAC 12; 5-5 versus the WCC; and were swept by the Sun Devils.

    The Cougars are 3-1 versus the PAC 12; 15-8 in the WCC; and dominated the Sun Devils.

  • BallJunkie South Jordan, UT
    May 23, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    Hi EdGrady....actually....the Utes have won 5 games this year against PAC12 opponents and won a series versus Stanford. Not sure what your comment is about.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    May 22, 2013 11:40 p.m.

    Maybe someday the uses will win a PAC-12 baseball game, but I'm not betting on it.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 22, 2013 8:37 p.m.


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  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    May 22, 2013 7:52 p.m.


    First off, let me just say Thank you for coming out and supporting BYU sports. Your attendance was much appreciated.

    Secondly, a word of advice, you're getting a little frantic and emotional here. I think most Cougar fans realize ASU is a historic team in College Baseball. That's why Cougar fans are so happy after their dominating win. They curb-stomped a pretty good baseball team.

    You're putting out a lot of really whiney excuses. Just please save a little face here and don't start complaining about injuries or the sun was in their eyes or there were midge flies swarming the mound, etc.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    May 22, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    It's hysterical that a group of "fans" who pretend that Utah won a national basketball championship in 1944 after playing the weakest schedule in the history of the NCAA (the Utes only beat two college teams during the entire regular season - Idaho State and Colorado College), would be so hilariously hypocritical as to question BYU's 1984 schedule. Especially when BYU's 1984 schedule was demonstrably tougher than Utah's 2004 bcs-busting schedule.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 22, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    I wonder if azute just looked back over all the posts and got embarrassed that he posted so much spin over just one game...

    I hope he's okay...

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    May 22, 2013 6:39 p.m.

    What's up with team up north? Are they related to Chris B?

    Good job Cougers on asu.

    Go Cougars!

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    C'mon everyone, let azute1 verbalize his pain. It's the only way he can heal.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 22, 2013 5:25 p.m.



  • sls Columbia, MO
    May 22, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    BYU beat #2 LSU in Louisiana. They beat #22 Gonzaga in Spokane. They beat #21 UCI in Provo twice. Now they beat #13 ASU, and BYU was not using their top pitcher either.

    The Cougars deserve an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 22, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    It's all been said. College World Series? Naw... Great win, nonetheless? Yep!

    How great? Read the posts by AZUTE. Has to have hurt. A lot.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    May 22, 2013 1:45 p.m.


    So you go to the game hoping to see BYU get crushed by ASU, so you use that as evidence of how out-classed the Cougars would be if they played in the mighty PAC.

    Unfortunately for U, it was BYU that did the crushing, so now you're forced into damage control trying to explain away BYU's win by claiming that ASU really wasn't trying.

    Does that about cover it?

    Thanks for playing!

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    May 22, 2013 1:21 p.m.


    "Schools save their top pitchers for the weekend and oftentimes kids play who are otherwise buried deep down into the dugout during their important weekend-games."

    Looking at Truth Machine's list, are you're trying to claim that ASU played its bench players against Arizona?

    Either you didn't watch the game, as you claim you did, or you have absolutely no idea who's in ASU's regular starting lineup, because it's obvious that ASU used the exact same starting lineup against BYU as they used against their arch-rival Arizona.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    May 22, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    Hey Azpuke....scoreboard! Series sweep after series sweep against u! nuf said!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    May 22, 2013 12:58 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    I'd love to have you reconcile a few of your posts which make absolutely no sense. First...

    "If you comprehended College Baseball, you'd know how these mid-week games work. Schools save their top pitchers for the weekend and oftentimes kids play who are otherwise buried deep down into the dugout during their important weekend-games... However, hollow, meaningless victories such as this one are precisely what fuels the utter self-delusion running rampant in utah county, year-round."

    From this I deduce that mid-week games are meaningless. But you later state that

    "A dominating win would be KU beating byu, 15-4....Or USF beating byu, 11-1."

    So make up your min--do mid-week games matter? The two games you referenced BYU losing were both mid-week games. The weekend games they played gainst KU and USF were all won by BYU.

    I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Go Cougs!

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 22, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    Looks like some "fan" from Arizona was busy throwing a jealous tizzy fit when an avalanche of logic began descending on him, so he tucked his red-tailed feathers between his legs and skedaddled.

    Great game Cougars; it's nice to see BYU baseball getting back on track with a convincing win over a perennial PAC 12 college baseball powerhouse on their home turf!

    Good luck in the WCC tourney BYU!

    Go Cougars!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:27 p.m.


    "Actually, what's hilarious is watching [AZUTE1's] epic meltdown after the Cougars blew out the Sun Devils in Tempe."

    No kidding!

    ASU Players versus Arizona
    Coffman, Kasey cf
    Benjamin, Michael 3b
    McDonald, James 2b
    Rossiter, Max c
    Causey, Nathaniel dh
    Allen, Trever rf
    Stankiewicz, Drew ss
    DiNatale, Dalton 1b
    Peevyhouse, Jake lf
    Ybarra, RJ ph

    ASU Players versus BYU
    Coffman, Kasey cf
    Benjamin, Michael 3b
    McDonald, James 2b
    Rossiter, Max c
    Allen, Trever rf
    Ybarra, RJ dh
    Stankiewicz, Drew ss
    DiNatale, Dalton 1b
    Peevyhouse, Jake lf

    REMARKABLY similar, yet AZUTE1 wants us to believe that ASU was playing a bunch of bench players who seldom see action.

    ASU batters must have simply stood in the batter's box and watched pitch after pitch sail by without even trying to hit the ball because they didn't care about winning their final home game of the season (for some their final career home game) in front of family and friends.

    Face it AZUTE1, the Sun Devils were dominated by a better team last night, because we all know that the team that wins the head-to-head matchup is ALWAYS the better team.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:19 p.m.


    As for the SOS issue, yes, according to Boyd's World, Utah's SOS is 21, BYU's is 58 (but BYU is ranked overall at 37th and Utah at 119th). According to (the top hit when I put in College Baseball SOS 2013), Utah's is 88th and BYU's is 95th.

    Both of those kind of fly in the face of your statement that "BYU's SOS isn't REMOTELY close to Utah's."

    "Tis is truly hysterical witnessing byu fans attempt in vain to spin it all."

    The only spinning that I'm seeing is from some guy in Mesa who finds a need to come onto a BYU/ASU baseball thread and make a bunch of inane excuses about why the #13 ASU Sun Devils got it handed to them at home from some "patsy" in the WCC.

    Which I find extremely entertaining!

    Looking through the comments, all I see are BYU fans that are excited about another win over a top 25 team and the possibility of making the NCAA tournament this year.

    Not bad for a BYU team that was picked to finish last in the WCC.

    So enjoy the ride, AZUTE. No need to hate.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    Well I just don't get it. Several of the posters did compare SOS and RPI to Utah but not one of them has said anything about ASU. In fact they have been complimentary so far as I can tell. Perhaps you need to go to a nice relaxing ball game against a patsy team on a quiet Tuesday or Wednesday night when one of your favorite teams can get a dominating win over a lowly conference nobody that you wouldn't waste a minute of your precious life worrying about. Now, wouldn't that make you feel better. (Unless of course your team lost to that lowly nobody. Then I can see how you just possibly might get frustrated and rant and rave about silly things.) By the way BYU respected ASU. So I guess they played their best pitcher as you say. Wouldn't you if you were facing the #13 team in the country? As for starting a nobody pitcher against a 30-19 nobody? Oops, bad move.

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:09 p.m.


    I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. It looks like you're trying to make whiny excuses for why ASU, a team with such a storied baseball tradition, lost to an overachieving BYU team.

    Why not just congratulate the Cougars? BYU was picked to finish dead last in the WCC before the season started. They have defied all expectations, are now the 3rd seed in the WCC tournament, and are 5-4 this season against ranked teams.

    I'm sure ASU didn't put their ace pitcher out there for yesterday's game. I KNOW that BYU didn't, they've got more important things to worry about with the WCC tourney coming up.

    So I'm not sure what your point is there, especially since a "mighty" PAC 12 team with such a "storied tradition" and ranked in the top 15 this year should have no problems beating a "patsy" from the WCC, even without starting their stud pitcher (and with BYU not starting theirs, either).

  • truecoug1 Provo, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:03 p.m.


    Actually, what's hilarious is watching your epic meltdown after the Cougars blew out the Sun Devils in Tempe.

    This is awesome! You have 8 of the (now) 18 comments on this board. Keep it coming! This is extremely entertaining!

    Go Cougars!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 22, 2013 12:03 p.m.


    I was also at the game and it was obvious on this particular night that BYU was the better team. The Cougars built a 7-0 lead before the Sun Devils even threatened. ASU may not have been using their best starting pitcher, but that doesn't explain the lack of production from ASU's bats.

    Arizona Central's account of the game said:

    "The Sun Devils (34-18-1) are 5-6 in their last 11 games going into a regular-season-ending Pac-12 series at Washington (22-31, 13-14 Pac-12) starting Friday. Their hopes of hosting a NCAA regional are gone and they need to regroup against the Huskies simply to solidify their at-large position."

    So even the Arizona press is saying that the Sun Devils still aren't a lock for the NCAA tournament.


    Any reasonable fan would laugh at the suggestion that a team trying to solidify their at-large position in the NCAA tourney would carelessly "throw away" one of their last remaining regular season games simply because it was an unimportant "mid-week" game.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    A dominating win would be KU beating byu, 15-4....Or USF beating byu, 11-1.

    And since ASU beat ua on Saturday nigh, they've lost merely 2 straight games against overall the nation's 10th ranked SOS, 1 against the def NCs and the other in a mid-week game against a patsy while starting a scrub nobody pitcher.

    ASU's typically already long been a lock for the post-season, they've been a regular in Omaha throughout their ELITE-history, have a staggering number of players in MLB, 5 NCs, play in America's premier conf and you people are seriously comparing the two teams, based solely upon byu's weak SOS, worse overall-record, ZERO history in the sport nationally, most likely needing to gain the WCC's Auto-Bid, in order to just simply make a brief post-season appearance and a mid-week game in which ASU got a pitcher who rarely ever sees the field a feel-good start and another pitcher his season-debut appearance while byu puts their best available pitchers out there, desperate for a win in their attempt to qualify for what ASU annually locks-up early in the season, qualifying for the post-seas.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    Funny how the Utah fans still can't bear to capitalize BYU. The infantile attempts to insult BYU say much about the trolls and nothing about BYU. Ute trolls biggest joke is when they say to themselves, stay classy.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    May 22, 2013 10:58 a.m.


    An 8-3 win is a DOMINATING win in anyone's book, except for, apparently, yours.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 22, 2013 10:55 a.m.


    LOL at your jealous, whiny excuse making.

    As usual, BYU is having a MUCH better season than Utah in yet another sport, and the only excuse you can come up with is the Sun Devils "saving" themselves because it's always good strategy to enter your final regular season series on a four-game losing streak, especially when you're fighting to get a good seed in the upcoming NCAA tournament.

    Do you actually believe your whiny spin?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    When I see the following posted, clarification is in order--

    "....especially with this dominating victory over ASU."

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    Tis is truly hysterical witnessing byu fans attempt in vain to spin it all.

    Pitchers need rest and the best are reserved for the more imp wk games.

    ASU started a kid who'd pitched less than 20 innings all season long and was in when the bulk of byu's damage was done[5 earned runs]....Coach TE has no choice but get these other kids experience midweek when mid-tier, inferior competion such as weak WCC byu huts town.

    As evidence in support of how desperaty important byu viewed this game, they threw a kid for 5 innings who's logged roughly 50 innings on the season and replaced w/a kid who's equally experienced for another 2 innings, etc....ASU's final ptcher for the game made his season-debut....LOL

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Current SOS rankings have byu's at #58 and trending weaker going forward, with UTAH's currently sitting at #21 and trending stronger with Top-10 UO hitting town this week.

    ASU's SOS currently sits at #10.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Silly comments I know. But then so were mine. Don't you think we should not make silly comments intended just to stir up the other fellow. It's not helpful except to generate a few laughs once in a while. Support your team, enjoy the entertainment of sport and let's be good sports.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    What are you talking about in backing-out? Which baseball games are you referencing? And NO, byu's SOS doesn't even remotely compare to UTAH's....LOL

    And UTAH welcomes Top-10 UO into S.L.C. this weekend, to boot.

    I didn't see even one, single team from the utterly WEAK WCC ranked.

    What was that regarding SOS?

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Thank you for attending the game and supporting BYU Baseball as one of the teams most ardent supporters.
    Your comments about BYU resting their best pitchers, using end of the bench players and other wise playing it soft midweek style should not detract from the fact that Arizona State does have a great baseball team.
    If you comprehended College Baseball a little more you might understand that winning games is the point of the process and no coach gives out "gimmes" to anyone and that scheduling games by the AD's is done to enhance that process.
    I don't understand how you think that BYU playing on the weekend would be humiliating, unless you do it with an onside kick when up by 21.
    Utah had their chance once again this season and as always they put on good games and just came up short, again. They are a good team also. As to an ASU-Utah weekend series, I will leave that to those two teams to work out who would be better between them. As you should know, BYU has nothing to do with those two teams playing each other on a weekday or weekend.

  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    May 22, 2013 9:47 a.m.


    BYU lost one game to Kansas but took 2 of 3 from the Jayhawks in a weekend series.

    Yes, SOS matters and figures into RPI rankings where BYU is in the 50s while Utah is in the 150s. BYU and Utah's SOS are about identical this year.

    In terms of scheduling, Utah is the team known for backing out of scheduling games with BYU, not the other way around.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Mildred in Fillmore
    Salt Lake City, UT

    We'd win the PAC 12 if we were in it.

    I know it....Akin to being the true NC in Football, annually.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    We'd win the PAC 12 if we were in it.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    I'd seriously love to see byu have the courage to schedule UTAH/ASU in a true weekend-series, instead. Too chicken to make it happen.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    I was in attendance tonight. YAAAAWN. If you comprehended College Baseball, you'd know how these mid-week games work. Schools save their top pitchers for the weekend and oftentimes kids play who are otherwise buried deep down into the dugout during their important weekend-games.

    Case in point, review last season's results for eventual NC ua and their mid-week games at home against NMSU. They got absolutely obliterated by NMSU, yet won The CWS w/their best pitchers/starters playing the entirety of each game.

    However, hollow, meaningless victories such as this one are precisely what fuels the utter self-delusion running rampant in utah county, year-round. I'd be shocked not seeing you all giddy about it. Schedule ASU for a weekend-series and byu gets utterly humiliated.

    byu played LSU twice, going 1-1 and not posting any other victory down there....Their only victories of significance were winning 2 of 3 fron UCI, which just dropped from the rankings....They played UTAH/ASU in midweek games and had only their weak conf weekends....As in football/basketball, SOS matters....Shocking, I know....KU curb-stomped byu and got swept by UTAH in a weekend series.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    May 22, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    I don't understand why this team is a bubble team. With their winning record against ranked teams and taking the series from nonconference teams like Creighton, Kansas, and Utah, this BYU team should be a shoo-in for a tournament berth.

    I hope they win the WCC tournament and the automatic berth, but the Cougars really have already done enough to earn an at-large bid, especially with this dominating victory over ASU.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2013 12:43 a.m.

    Good to see Cougar Baseball extending the Cougar Rep. Go Cougars, take the WCC tournament! Here is to making the NCAA playoffs and having a fantastic Run.
    It's great to be a Cougar fan.