The GOP's real Hispanic problem

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  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Many people try to make immigration enforcement a political issue rather than a law enforcement issue.

    Most democrats I know don't see any possible way we can admit 25 million new enrollees to our social services budgets. Yet that is what the current immigration bills being debated would do.

    Republicans, if they take a firm immigration stance in 2015 elections, are likely to win over as many democrats as they lose in hispanic votes.

    The current immigration bills being debated would be the "straw that broke the camels back" financially to our country if implemented.

    It would be very expensive to implement, would grow the federal government enormously, it would put a major onus on the state budgets to provide (now)approved social services for wage earners below $9.00 per hr.

    The real irony is that it WOULD NOT solve the problem of illegal immigration. Unethical/illegal businesspersons would simply hire a "fresh crop" of illegal trespassers who would, inevitably, arrive to wait for THEIR AMNESTY.

    It will be the lower to higher income taxpayers who wind up paying the costs associated with amnesty.

    NOT the upper income brackets. THATS WHY democrats should be against it also.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 17, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    H Beal
    Very well said. Mr Thompson is confusing politics with religon. Talk to any businessman who keeps an eye on demographics and they'll tell you that hispanics will have a major impact on what this country is to be over the next 50 years. The vile and bitterness that so many Republicans have against latino's not only alinates them but other voting blocs that do not want to associate with the GOP. I interact with many latinos in business and think they and their culture are great assets to our country. I find consistent comments and viewpoints expressed by Republican's as very arrogant, ill-informed and myopic. Whether hispanics residing here in the United States are legal or not, the vast majority are decent, hard working, family oriented people who are trying to make a better life. I, and most Americans, respect and admire qualitites like that.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    May 16, 2013 11:26 p.m.

    J Thompson:

    Assuming your numbers are correct, they still only tell a partial story. I know you know that we elect Presidents through the Electoral College. So the Hispanic vote say in some key states like Florida, Nevada and Colorado is what is key. If the GOP can't get enough traction with Hispanics in these states, they could continue to lose these states by relatively close margins. Perhaps if Romney got 40% of the Hispanic vote in these states, those states could have went from Blue to Red. That is the real question. It's not the nationwide Hispanic vote that counts but in states that the GOP must win and that are winnable if traction was made with the Hispanic vote.

    As far as social issues, Hispanic voters could care less when all the Republican Party talks about is how they might want to send their Uncle, Aunt, grandmother, friend or neighbor back to their home country. At that point that becomes a bigger "issue" than abortion or gay marriage or whatever. When the GOP learns to tone down the rhetoric a bit, I think things will turn more to their favor.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    May 16, 2013 9:59 p.m.


    You're totally fully of baloney. Romney would have had to gain 73% of the Hispanic vote in order to win the White House. No Republican in history has won more than the low 40-percentile. That makes your comment moot. Also, there are not nearly as many legal Hispanic voters as you might think, about 7% of the total voting population. Any that believe in law and order, that believe that the greatness of America is a gift from God, not a gift from Washington, that believe that hard work and honesty are the only policy that counts, are totally welcome in the GOP. Those who believe differently will be welcomed by the Democrats.

    The GOP is not interested in selling America, or her ideals, to win an election. The GOP believes in honoring and obeying he law. Those that believe differently can continue to vote for Democrats. We will not sell out just to win an election.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    May 16, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    I don't think there is a problem. Hispanics have always preferred the Democrats. The Hispanic support of illegal immigration has become a problem for the Democrats, as the party that once helped the poor, are driving many away by supporting people here illegally.

    I have pulled away from the Democrats, after 35 years, and the part Hispanic members in my family have followed.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    May 16, 2013 5:39 p.m.

    HS Fan,

    Republicans have problems with legal voting Hispanics because most legal voting Hispanics are OK with their illegal immigrants family members and amigos who are also here in the states.

    Pretty simple really

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2013 5:20 p.m.

    J Thompson-
    The GOP would have won the WH if they did not have a "perception" problem with legal, voting hispanics. Current demographic trends have them losing more red states in 2016 and 2020 if they don't fix their problem with legal hispanics. Republicans like you continue to cost the party future elections if you don't pull your head out of the sand. Wake up and smell the tortillas.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    May 16, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    The GOP has no "hispanic problem". The GOP believes in welcoming immigrants into the United States WHEN those immigrants come in legally and when those immigrants obey the laws of the United States. The GOP has no interest in buying votes from those who crossed the border illegally. The GOP has no interest in being their nanny, providing them food, clothing, shelter or education. The GOP has legal citizens to care about.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 16, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    Immigration isn't the biggest concern for most Hispanic people I talk with. But taking a super-harsh stand on imigration policy is sure a turn off to them, and I can see why.

    Some of my Hispanic friends are the most vocal of my friends on being against Illegal Immigration (not all are here illegally and they want others to obey the law like they did). But when Republicans sound all harsh and uncaring about people from their homeland... they can get offended.

    I think Republicans need to show they care. Not just give in and allow illegal immigration, but show they understand and care about people from other countries, and that they realise that a lot of Hispanic people are here legally and tend to disagree with Democrats on many things (Abortion, Religion, Marriage, large government, reduced individual rights, especially the right to work (without Union approval). But after repeated insults from Republicans... they have to decide which party offends them the least.

    Hispanics are an important voting block in America, and Democrats are experts at exploiting special interests and capturing minority voting blocks. Republicans are not as skilled as Democrats at pandering.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    May 16, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Last year I talked to a good Hispanic neighbor of mine. He asked if I was a Democrat. I told him yes, and he gave me a big smile. "Me too," he said. "The Republicans hate us."

    Enough said.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    When a significant portion of the Hispanic agenda is to make me believe its ok to break the law and enter our country illegally I will never be on board with this group.

    Want to show you are good AMERICANS?

    Obey the law