Obama’s scandals argue for liberty over security

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  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    May 17, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    "George Washington couldn't tell a lie, Richard Nixon couldn't tell the truth, Brack Obama couldn't tell the difference."

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 16, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    Mr. Evensen,

    What I would like to know is WHY, WHAT, HOW, WHEN WHERE regarding the AP and DOJ story.

    Perhaps you, as a journalist could dig up the facts for us. Apparently there was a very serious crime committed which put American lives at risk. Apparently there was an investigation? which didn't reveal the perpetrator of the crime at which point the DOJ took the extraordinary step of investigating AP records.

    Now, one might believe no crime can justify the actions of the DOJ. But, at a minimum, we ought to have the ENTIRE story to form a reasoned debate.

    "In each case, the president has claimed a healthy distance from decisions made. But, as anyone with corporate or government experience can attest, tone and expectations are set at the top."

    Reagan: Iran-Contra?

    Bush: 2006 dismissal of 7 U.S. Federal Prosecutors which the "Justice Department's Inspector General (IG) released a report on the matter that found most of the firings were politically motivated and improper."????

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 16, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    Liberty?? You mean the sort of liberty where you are audited by the IRS if you are a conservative? That liberty? I would say liberty is in free fall in our new Obama-nation. Of course Jay Carney and Eric Holder and the regime leader Barack Obama know nothing about it. Right.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    May 16, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    Seriously Big D, facts don't mean anything to you? Why wasn't Karl Roves group targeted? They spent over 70 million in attack ads but drew no scrutiny. It was a very poor administrative decision but that's exactly what it was. Your proof to the contrary is?

  • djc Stansbury Park, Ut
    May 16, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    The problems did not magically start on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of 2008. These problems or the "imperial presidency" have their roots far in our history, some would say from the time of John Adams. There have been presidents who were especially bad about this and some that were lesser offenders, but our elected representatives in the House and Senate have over the years made it easier for the Executive to overreach. The idiotic Patriot Act is a prime example and one needn't look further then Camp Williams to see a new monument to government overreach. Being partisan about it is rather petty, when it is a universal problem. A good man is elected to go to Washington, D.C. and a power hungry tyrant is what finally gets there. Unfortunately many can not see the universality of this or any other issue, and make it another rallying point against the sitting president. Four comments so far and it seems like 50 insults already.

  • BigD Salt Lake City, UT
    May 16, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    @ Pragmatist

    Please take the blinders off. Even the left sees the problems and you are still in denial!

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 16, 2013 8:23 a.m.

    "...tone and expectations are set at the top."

    The man at the top wants to "fundamentally transform" America. First things First.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    May 16, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    It would be nice just once Mr. Evensen if you dug deeper than the Fox news talking points to inform your writing. If the Obama administration was targeting it's opponents for harassment why did it miss Karl Roves group who clearly was the biggest and most influential opponent? Guess why, because it wasn't targeting it's opponents. The IRS didn't single out Mr. Roes group exactly because it was big and complicated, the same reason it didn't audit the large liberal groups. It simply was an organization overrun with work who made a very poor administrative decision to clear it's plate from the bottom up and picked off the easy fruit, groups who's name indicated they were political not social.

    AP scandal, Mr. Evensen go back and check the Fox news and CNN channels the Sunday after the leak story broke and see the flood of Republicans screaming for an investigation to uncover who leaked the story to the AP. because this was the worst leak "ever"..now..Obamas clearly trying to take away the freedom of the press.

  • Idahoan138 Pocatello, ID
    May 16, 2013 1:10 a.m.

    Perhaps now the media will begin to see that there isn't much difference between an assault by the Federal Government against the 2nd Amendment, or the 1st Amendment (or for that matter, the 4th Amendment - "...secure in their papers....").

    The Founding Fathers understood that Human Nature hasn't changed in 6000 years of recorded history, and they incorporated that understanding into the U.S. Constitution. Why do you suppose the Progressives hate it so much?

    Thus, I wonder if we will begin to see a change in the way the liberal media deals with the 2nd Amendment, now that they have been attacked. Ehhh - probably not.