BYU, Ute baseball: Cougars come back — again — to secure rivalry win over Utah

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  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    May 15, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    My father in law was a respected member of a rural Utah community. But when he was umpiring baseball, you can forget respect. Periodically, after a controversial call, he'd let the wailing and gnashing of teeth go on for a while. Then he'd slowly stand up straight, take his mask off, and slowly walk back to the backstop.

    "We'll," he'd say, " it was a ball, because I said it was a ball." After the silence bounced around for a while, he'd go back, get into position, and call "play ball!"

    May 15, 2013 10:31 p.m.

    Two For Flinching, my point exactly. You can only give credit to the BYU players for making the plays to set it up, and take advantage of what was given them, so good on them for that. But considering the fairly wide zone the home plate umpire had been calling the entire game, those were pitches that were pretty well within what had previously been called strikes, from my vantage point. That was definitely the pivotal point in a very close game to culminate what was a very close series between the teams this year.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 15, 2013 9:04 p.m.

    @two fer

    I was at the game and sitting directly behind home plate about 4 rows up. Those were not clear strikes, frankly they looked out of the zone to me although close, to close to not swing IMO but that is simply the way of it in baseball. The fact is the better team won, and won 2 of 3 this season which is pretty close to the overall historical disparity between the two teams.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    @ Eddie

    Utah averages over 14,000 for women's gymnastics, and was in the top half in attendance for men's basketball. Obviously people care about more than just Utah football.

    @ Duckhunter

    NOBODY is trying to blame the umpires. We are just expressing frustration with one at bat during a big moment in the game. Despite those calls, Utah had its chance to win and didn't capitalize.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    The duel should not be so hard to figure out. Don't let a tiebreaker even be a possibility. This isn't rocket science.

    BYU has been VERY dominate over Utah overall since this started. Glad there is a system to prove it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 15, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    I love the utah "fans" trying to blame it on the umps.


  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 2:45 p.m.


    "Nick Green had him struck out twice."

    Obviously he didn't; do you need some cheese to go along with that whine?

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 2:43 p.m.


    "Regarding the deseret dual[sic]--. ASU/ua have their territorial cup series to zero fanfare, as well..."

    You're obviously confused if you think that anybody on this blog is even remotely interested in your little Territorial Cup.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    May 15, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    Don't be too hard on those ONE Sport fans on the hill. They really don't know how to play or what goes on in other sports. Every conversation will be around their football program, even if they are on the bottom of the pac 10.2. I really believe that they would rather just concentrate on football and be in last place every year and be in the pac 10.2 than win in any other sport.

    It must be sad to moap around campus/town and really have nothing to cheer about for 364 days.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 1:45 p.m.

    @ StGtoSLC

    I agree. Nick Green had him struck out twice. It was very frustrating.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 11:15 a.m.


    "Anybody placing any stock into these mid-week games, clearly doesn't comprehend anything about College Baseball."

    LOL at your whiny excuse making!

    BYU was also saving its starting pitchers for their weekend series and there's absolutely no reason to believe that Utah would be reaching into the depths of their dugout to play kids who normally don't play in a rivalry game with BYU.

    Face it, U lost 2 out of 3 to a team that's dominated U in baseball forever!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2013 11:14 a.m.


    Regarding the deseret dual--

    Yaaaawn....ASU/ua have their territorial cup series to zero fanfare, as well. The Territorial Cup is, literally, the ultimate prize, as it represents winning the annual rivalry football fame in the king of all sports in Collegiate Athletics. It currently resides right here in Tempe. Up there in Utah, it's The Beehive Boot which exists as the state's crown jewel. Don't fool yourselves into believing, otherwise.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    Anybody placing any stock into these mid-week games, clearly doesn't comprehend anything about College Baseball. With teams saving their starting pitchers for their weekend series' and routinely reaching deep into their dugouts and playing kids who normally don't see much, if any, playing time, any team can beat any team.

    A prime example if it occurred last season diwn there in Tucson, where NMSU destroyed eventual NC ua in a two-game, mid-week series. Don't believe me? Be my guest and look it up for yourselves.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 15, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    Deseret First Duel Final Standings

    BYU won: w volleyball, m/w basketball, m tennis, softball, baseball.
    Utah won: w soccer, football, m/w swimming, gymnastics, w tennis.

    BYU and Utah tied 25-25 for the Deseret First Duel (Utah wins tiebreaker). In the six years of the Duel, Utah has outscored BYU just once.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 15, 2013 9:47 a.m.


    "The last two called balls in Hannemann's at-bat to tie the game in the bottom of the sixth were just awful."

    Just be grateful Hannemann didn't belt one of those "awful" balls over the fence for a grand slam.


    The 25-25 "tie-breaker" for the Deseret Duel Trophy is silly. They should add a 13th sport, like Men's Volleyball, to avoid ties and to give BYU has an automatic win every year like the Utes have with Women's Gymnastics.

    In the larger picture, the NACDA Director's Cup (which ranks national achievement in all sports), BYU once again leads Utah by a substantial margin, just like they have for each of the 20 years the NACDA Director's Cup has been awarded.

    #45 BYU 308.00 points
    #63 Utah 228.75 points

    When scores from Men's Volleyball, Softball, Baseball, Golf and Track & Field are added to the mix, BYU will likely move into the Top 30, as usual, while the Utes are already finished for the year.

  • Gone fishin Murray, UT
    May 15, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    Nice work Cougars. Real Bass and sls are spot on. This is no rivalry. The Coug are in at a different level and have dominated for years. Once again the Utes are in the basement of the PAC 10.2. I LOVE MY INDEPENDANCE.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    May 15, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    Eking out a win over the last place team in the PAC12 isn't too exciting, but it is nice to beat Utah once again. Hopefully, the Cougs can be prepared to take the series against St. Mary's and move on to the postseason.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    The Desert Duel thing is disappointing. Because of the potential for a tie (which happened, 6 sports and 25 points each) the overall trophy was decided in some "back room" negotiations and handed out two weeks ago. So much for all the rivalry talk. Not sure what was wrong with a tie between two excellent programs. RSL loves them!!

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    May 15, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    This is not a rivalry. Utah hasn't won the series this century!

    May 15, 2013 1:15 a.m.

    The last two called balls in Hannemann's at-bat to tie the game in the bottom of the sixth were just awful.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 15, 2013 12:52 a.m.

    Congrats Cougars!

    After tonight's Deseret Duel Baseball Trophy clinching win, BYU is now 233-109-2 lifetime versus Utah.