Mormon missionary age announcement prompted teen to reveal alleged abuse from coach

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  • MyThought Somewhere, UT
    May 18, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    Re: LValfre

    I don't believe this girl lost her virtue. She may have had her virginity stolen from her, but as soon as she turned to Christ and had her sins washed away, she was virtuous once more. I think she will have one very lucky young man marry her in the temple one day. Please don't quote comments such as those to victims of sexual abuse/rape. I'm sure this girl wishes every day that she could change what happened, forget it all, but she can't, and God still loves her, just as much as any other innocent child. I admire and applaud her strength to stand up in the face of so much manipulation and abuse, and not allow it to happen to anyone else. You go girl!

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    May 16, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    There is no true Latter-day Saint who would not rather bury a son or a daughter than to have him or her lose his or her chastity – realizing that chastity is of more value than anything else in all the world.”

    - Prophet Heber J. Grant, Gospel Standards, complied by G. Homer Durham, p. 55

    “I know what my mother expects. I know what she’s saying in her prayers. She’d rather have me come home dead than unclean.”

    - Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, Conference Report, April 1969, pp. 52-53

    “President David O. McKay has pleaded:
    Your virtue is worth more than your life. Please, young folk, preserve your virtue even if you lose your lives.”

    - Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, LDS Prophet, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 63

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    May 16, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    @Rational – “Which are not evidence of moral decay? Are you naive, disingenuous, or do you have an agenda?”

    Hopefully I’m none of those things…

    But if you read my 1st comment (hey, where did it go?!!) it clearly states “In some respects we are (less moral), but in many other areas… our moral intuitions are stronger than ever.”

    I agree with much of what you said, but let’s stack that up against the last few thousand or even few hundred years.

    War – used to be almost constant for just about every society, now, the vast majority of us 7 billion+ people get along pretty well.

    Slavery – used to be ubiquitous, now virtually gone.

    Women’s Rights – half our species has more opportunity than ever.

    Environmental concern – virtually non-existent until relatively recently, although one can argue this is because we now have the capacity to do tremendous damage.

    Freedom/Liberty – now more than ever

    Democracy – almost unheard of (except ancient Greece) until our founding.

    Empathy – gone from group/tribal to global relatively recently.

    So I’d say relatively speaking we’re doing pretty well…

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    May 15, 2013 11:27 p.m.

    It doesn't have to be just sexual abuse. It can be just abuse with threats from the individual abuser that children don't understand the impact of the threat. The individual had a knife or other item to show their power of the threat. They know if they tell their parents, especially depending on the age of the one abused, there will be some type of action taken, either their death or the parent's will be dead. These children don't want either action to happen so they keep it inside of them for years. Their behavior isn't normal for a child, even a teenager, that have normal problems, let along from abuse. It's a shame that someone was able to get a teaching job at that age and not have someone that knew this person come forward and tell of his ability to influence children under his control. He developed his technique over the years in a school environment where he was powerful, especially in a private or charter school. He taught in schools somewhere and got around their policies for a time but needed to move.

    Predators should not be around children alone.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    May 15, 2013 10:51 p.m.

    I applaud the incredible courage this young woman demonstrated in coming forward. I'm also glad that her bishop knew immediately to involve the police.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 7:14 p.m.

    Tyler D,

    - 48% of first born children are born out of wedlock, with that number higher with mothers under thirty
    - More than 50% of marriages end in divorce
    - Divorce is the leading cause of poverty in the U.S.
    - In 1970 85% of children lived in two parent homes. In 2004, 70% did
    - Only 61% of children live with both birth parents
    - More than 25% of Americans have genital herpes, with that number increasing
    - Nearly 20 million new STD infections occur in the US each year -- half among the nation's youth
    - There are currently more than 110 million sexually transmitted infections in the US. These infections can cause anything from discomfort to cancer and death.

    Which of those statistics are not disturbing to you? Which are not evidence of moral decay? Are you naive, disingenuous, or do you have an agenda?

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    May 15, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    "re: another perspective
    Yes, some teachers target kids... BUT... with the world we live in (TV, Radio, Pop Culture, etc...) Many students target teachers!!!"

    A more appropriate title for the above post might be "a disgusting perspective."
    In the student/teacher relationship, the teacher is expected to be an adult and act accordingly.
    To imply that children are responsible for inappropriate relationships with adults is repulsive and irresponsible.
    In the eyes of the law children are incapable of giving consent. By definition they are victims when they are caught up in sexual relationships with adults.
    Adults who feel they can't resist the "targeting" of youngsters need to seek therapy.

  • luv2organize Gainesville, VA
    May 15, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    I'm sorry but if your daughter had a 30 something man asking about marriage wouldn't you slightly freak out and look into things very very closely? I would keep my daughter as far away as possible from this person.

  • washcomom Beaverton, OR
    May 15, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    It doesn't matter if the person is LDS or not that harmed this girl. What does matter is that this person needs to be held accountable for his actions and that this girl can feel free from the oppression that he has caused to be placed upon her.
    Every person who harms even a hair on the head of a child shall be accountable to the laws of the land, and/or to the laws of heaven.
    I'm just glad this girl had courage and strength to come forward and tell about how evil this guy's behavior was. Being a person in the authority position gave him a leverage to get what he "wanted", but he will get what he doesn't want in the end.

  • azgal Buckeye, AZ
    May 15, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    She's an awesome girl!! Kudos to her bravery!!!!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Yet another example of the vulnerability of girls and women in most societies - no safe place for them. What is to be done?

  • Something to think about Ogden, UT
    May 15, 2013 2:16 p.m.

    re: another perspective

    Yes, some teachers target kids... BUT... with the world we live in (TV, Radio, Pop Culture, etc...) Many students target teachers!!!

  • Another Perspective Bountiful, UT
    May 15, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    Given the legal penalties, its hard to understand why teachers keep falling for their students. There are plenty of ways to meet women (and guys) online and elsewhere.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 15, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    Open Minded Mormon: The Church does NOT teach that. Individuals just feel that way because that's how sexual abuse makes one feel. Intimacy is so personal and abusive intimacy is so damaging. That's why one feels worthless. It isn't true and the Church does not teach that it is.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    May 15, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    "I felt trapped after (one of the first sex acts)," the alleged victim testified. "I felt no one else would ever want me."....


    Wasn't this the same thing Elizabeth Smart said last week about victims of sexual abuse?
    The old "ABC [ Already-Been-Chewed] gum" analogy that is just plain WRONG?!

    It's teaching like this that are counter-productive and make young girls feel like trash and giving up!