Feds fight Utah over measure to curb law enforcement authority

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  • county mom Monroe, UT
    May 14, 2013 11:21 p.m.

    Thank you dwayne.
    Having been harassed on Utah state land at a Utah state park, at the Coral Pink Sand Dunes by a federal employee. I can tell you this does happen and needs to stop.
    We didn't break any laws. Were we camping in a designated camp area, but a employee of the BLM stopped to check all our bikes for state licencing and registrations.
    This is totally wrong and harassment.
    Only a Kane County officer, a Utah State Parks officer or a Utah Highway patrol officer should be checking us for current licencing.
    If they wrote out a ticket, what county court would the federal officer write the ticket from? He has no authority in the Kane county courts.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    May 14, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    look at the ends of the salt lake valley the gravel pits are digging up the mountains, it is just gone. when the wind blows, sand blows from one end of the valley to the other. it is silica and it is bad for your lungs. utah is in charge of theses pits. watch as the very weather paterns could change from digging up the point of the mountain. which is no longer a point. capitalisim at any cost is killing the planet and its people and as long as they want money, more than principles, in their life this is what america will have. people like hatch who got 80% of money from out of state.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    May 14, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    John Swallows big campaign issue was the federal land issue and he and the Governor had divergent paths. The Legislature with Mike Noel leading was the same Mike Noel who got the voucher bill passed with his one vote in a legislative district that had no voucher schools. It was a gift to Aaron Tilton, another legislator, who needed votes for his power plant and water from Kane county, where Mike Noel is the legislator.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Put Swallow on this. He knows Harry Reid.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    May 14, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    Utah officials need to go back and read the Supremacy Clause. Hint: It's in the Constitution. And then they need to read a little Constitutional history, particularly surrounding the principles arising out of the Civil War. I know it's been a while, but go back and read the Gettysburg Address. In the end, I would have to think that Utah is going to lose this one.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    May 14, 2013 4:53 a.m.

    We have these federal laws for this very reason, to prevent states from abuse and destruction of the open range lands and robber barons from thinking the land they graze their cattle or people on is their private property. The federal laws exist to insure all americans and all citizens have equal share and rights to access these lands with their wagon trains and traveling across roads from state to state without states establishing borders to collect taxes from travelers.

    The Utah law is in conflict with the federal laws and its an illegal law. I think the representative of Kanab is exaggerating federal authorities in civil law enforcment with lies. The federal departments do not have speeding laws nor laws to stop access. Federal laws priority is to protect the land from encroachment and exploitation by state greed or corporate land barons.

    State like Utah claim to be better care takers is a lie. They have financial motivation to destroy ever bit of the land they can get hold of. The State of Utah has proven not to be reliable or willing to preserve our country from robber barons out for a buck.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    May 14, 2013 12:53 a.m.

    Utah will probably lose this fight. Kansas however just passed a law that guns which are manufactured in Kansas and stay with in Kansas are not subject to federal gun law. this has a good chance of passing the court test because the only reason the federal government should regulate guns is the interstate commerce clause and that doesn't apply here.

    With advances such as three dimensional printing perhaps every state that wants to can have its own gun manufacturers and states which would like to be free of federal law when it comes to guns will now have that opportunity

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    May 13, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    In 1776 agents of the government were usurping their powers and imposing unwarranted and unreasonable restrictions on the colonists.

    "Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States."

    Our Constitution reserves powers to the states and the people except those specifically allowed to the federal government. (10th Amendment)

    By allowing the feds to exercise powers beyond those authorized, it is much like the right of adverse possession where a landowner surrenders their property rights by not challenging others who make us of their property and then think they own it, or at least have the right to use it.

    Given today's revelations about the repeated abuses by the IRS and the unprecedented intrusions on the Associated Press it is becoming obvious that Obama's administration does not respect Constitutional limitations on their power.

    Utah must assert our state's rights and powers!

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    May 13, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    "Federal over reach" how about State over reach! And they sure don't mind picking and choosing which Federal agencies they are ok with enforcing laws within the State. I guess the US needs to re-send some troops to Fort Douglas to keep an eye on Utah again? This is more political pucky about the State and local governments trying to usurp bogus “states rights” against the Federal Government on Federal lands. "harassing people at camp sites..." on Federal land no doubt. Remember, it was the Federal Government of the United States of American that purchased that land from Mexico (again, treaty of Hidalgo anyone?). Local police and Sherriff deputies are subject to the political will of local elected officials… I guess they can’t seem to “don’t you know who I am” their way out of a speeding ticket from the Forest Service.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    May 13, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    So how much money is the state going to blow on this?