Wildfire 2013: 'Fire is everyone's fight' as heat, drought indicate potentially severe wildfire season

500 fewer firefighters will be available for upcoming season

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  • county mom Monroe, UT
    May 14, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    I was around in the 1960's and I remember sitting in school having the teachers talk to us about the coming ice age, Global cooling.
    In the 1970's, they had us all climbing under our desks in school because we could be protected from a nuclear explosion and after the world was destroyed, we would suffer nuclear winter. You know the cold war times.
    During the 1980's, while I was in college,we were told all about population explosion and the lack of proper food and the amount of starvation that would occur across the globe. Of course then in 1985 along came Aids, and this disease was going to totally eliminate the human population.You know my great grandmother told me that when she was a girl and running water was brought into the house, they were told the earth would run out of fresh water.
    Now for some reason, we continue to have this fear mongering.
    My answer is, the earth is always changing and people should stop thinking they have that much control.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 14, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    "You on the other hand use the "cold" spell analogy constantly." Only to counter those who do the warm spell analogy, and claim it is logical as I said, and you must have missed it. In the meantime, doesn't it trouble you that the "game" keeps changing on your side? I mean it used to be called global warming and now its "climate change" even though the climate is always changing and has since the beginning of time, even before SUVs! Ever heard of the ice age? Thankfully the climate changes because if it didn't we would not be here.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    May 14, 2013 7:22 a.m.

    "The numerous comments from people who say if there is unusually warm weather it is proof of man made global warming. The same logic would apply to prove global warming is a hoax when we have unusually cold weather. That's the point, sorry you missed it."

    Didnt miss it at all. I agree with you.

    The difference is that I have never pointed to a warm spell as proof of global warming. You on the other hand use the "cold" spell analogy constantly.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    May 14, 2013 6:10 a.m.

    This year may be the year to establish some let it burn districts as an ecological rejuvenation fires that are common in the wild. But I think this article is meant to lead into establishing more restrictions on land use and target shooting in the wilderness.

    We also have to remember that billions of barrels of water have been removed from the environment by green energy development.

    Billion of barrels of water have become too toxic to put back in the environment or oceans because of nuclear reactors dirty water storage and water used from fracking the earth with toxic water for oil and gas reserves. It causes lower seas, makes oceans too salty to freeze and seemingly stopping the glaciers and ice caps from its sources of moisture. We have put 50+ years of water into long term isolation and its exposing a dry earth condition.

    There is a very high rate of water being buried in 100,000 year water barrels never to be available for use again. We don't have global warming, we have global dehydration and disillusioned green energy advocates.

    Evaporation over the oceans is not enough to replenish the continents being dehydrated.

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    May 14, 2013 12:29 a.m.

    Does anyone recall a year when a severe fire season was not predicted?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 13, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    @ Joe Blow. The numerous comments from people who say if there is unusually warm weather it is proof of man made global warming. The same logic would apply to prove global warming is a hoax when we have unusually cold weather. That's the point, sorry you missed it.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 13, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    @county mom
    There was never any "global cooling concensus" and the reason for the switch from global warming to global climate change doesn't have to do with a lack of warming (since it's still warming, the 00s were .2F warmer than the 90s) but rather climate change encompasses the other impacts as well like declining Arctic sea ice.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    May 13, 2013 6:19 p.m.

    rawlsheal; I would indeed feel sorry for a man named Sally?
    As far as "Global Warming" is concerned, from what I understand, they are no longer saying it is warming because it isn't.
    They are now telling us that we are facing "Global Climate Change".
    Like "they" scared us in the late 1960's about Global Cooling.
    And then again in the 1970's it was Nuclear Winter.
    Then in the 1980's it was Population Explosion.
    In the 1990's it was Global Warming.
    Now it is Global Climate Change.
    Do you see the pattern here? Fear mongers?

  • rawlshea1 salt lake city, UT
    May 13, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    Third paragraph refers to Sally Jewell as "he". She is a smart "she". Despite the flat earth advocates the climate is changing and fires and extreme weather are the signs we should be paying attention to, not carping or howling at the moon of yesteryear.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    May 13, 2013 5:51 p.m.

    "some radical eco type will say man made global warming caused it!"

    I certainly agree with that.

    Makes about as much sense as when someone looks at a cold snap or a late snow fall and questions global warming.

    now who would do that?

    May 13, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    The article is correct about a water shortage - which is obvious when I look at my lawns and flowers.

    According to news accounts, Salt Lake City airport has received only 83 % of normal (long time average) water for this water year that began October 1st AND the northern Utah mountains have received a lower percentage of normal than has the airport.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 13, 2013 4:34 p.m.

    While snow in the valleys was much higher this winter compared to the previous winter, the snow totals in the mountains were generally below or near average. Most of the state is below average for water year (Oct-present) and year to date (Jan-present) precipitation.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 13, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    Guaranteed: Somewhere there will be a forest or range fire this summer,just like there have been every year for centuries and when it happens this year, some radical eco type will say man made global warming caused it!

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    May 13, 2013 4:12 p.m.

    Well lets hope this bit of speculation does not come true and we continue to get regular rainfall.
    If they can not afford to pay so many people on the ground, maybe they should go back to the tried and true method of chaining.
    Two heavy equipment opperators, two D-10 bulldozers, 200 gallons of diesel fuel for the cats, and several very big chains.
    The cost would be minimal in comparison to the wages,food, housing, care, instrution, insurance and transportation for 500 people. The burn scares always heel. So did the chaining scares. Any of you know where they are now?
    Be cost effective!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 13, 2013 3:44 p.m.

    drought? We have 3 times as much snow this year as last...snow shoeing and back country skiing proves it.