Mormons become 'real people' for 'Book of Mormon' musical cast touring upstate New York

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  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    June 25, 2013 3:43 p.m.

    Actually this show is much worse in its portrayals of Africa. Its condescending and paternalistic portrayals of the residents of Uganda strike one as a screed that could easily be used to justify neo-colonialism in many ways. I thought Spencer Fluhman was spot on in pointing out how this is a continuation of mocking Mormons by people who have bigger problems. In the 1870s Mormons were attacked for Polygamy and supposedly thus marginalizing women, while Utah allowed women to vote while every state in the country banned them from doing so, Wyoming the only other place they could vote being a territory.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    May 20, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    I find myself very conflicted about this musical. It bothers me to feel the production mocks my faith and my God, but I can certainly see how the church's approach has left open a door of goodwill that invites the open-minded to explore who we really are. I trust that's a good thing, and I know the church leadership has taken a higher road that I and many others probably would not have taken. Great living example.

    @sharrona - and, the pancake I ate this morning was dependent upon me for its existence, and upon God for the existence of that matter from which I made it. I don't consider myself, or God, to be the father of the pancake. A father is certainly the creator of his offspring, but he is does not have a "fatherly" relationship with everything he creates. The language of the scriptures repeatedly denotes a parental relationship with God, not merely a creator-creation relationship.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    May 14, 2013 1:48 p.m.

    RE: zoar63,The scriptures say God is the father of our spirits. True,

    … the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Ecc 12:7

    For in him we live and move and have our Being...(Acts 17:28) Creation is dependent on God for its very existence.

    I agree with, Moroni 8:18 “God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity”.

    Psalm 90:2 “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.”

  • Muncho Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2013 10:07 a.m.

    I am a mormon and I saw the show in London. I was offended at some parts of the show. I didn't think showing the Elders in their underwear was necessary. I was so hyped for the show that honestly i was a bit disappointed it wasn't better than it was. Not as good as an average south park episode. But the acting is very well done. This is the best publicity that church has probably ever had since the Donny and Marie Show. At least thousands and thousands of people are becoming familiar with the term book of mormon.

  • zoar63 Mesa, AZ
    May 13, 2013 5:26 p.m.


    "This process known as eternal progression is succinctly expressed in the LDS aphorism, 'As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.' Encyclopedia of Mormonism 4:1474."

    The scriptures say God is the father of our spirits.

    Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
    (Heb 12:9)

    And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?

    (Num 16:22)

    So don’t you think that a parent would encourage their offspring to be like them?

  • Whos Life RU Living? Ogden, UT
    May 13, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Matt Stone and Trey Parker have made fun of Islam. There are a few South Park episodes that make fun of the idea that they cannot make fun of Islam. South Park also did a few episodes that specifically made fun of Islam, but Comedy Central censored the shows quite heavily.

    For those that are mad about Loud Laughter toward religion, don't be afraid of it.

    Religions that embrace the critics/comedians with love are much more liked than those that do not.

    Take the laughter with pride, Jews and Catholics take it all the time.

  • Don Bugg Prince Frederick, MD
    May 13, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Sharrona's capacity for irrelevance is really astounding sometimes.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    May 12, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    RE: Comments on the Book Mormon. Moroni 7:22 For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.

    Moroni 8: 18 For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is a unchangeable from ball eternity to all eternity.

    This process known as eternal progression is succinctly expressed in the LDS aphorism, 'As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.' Encyclopedia of Mormonism 4:1474.

    RE: Ether 12:25-28. Romans(1:22-23)Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    May 12, 2013 12:57 p.m.

    Ether 12:25-28.

  • gcrobmd GADSDEN, AL
    May 12, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    I saw two episodes of Southpark in which Mormons were mocked, and at least one episode ended with something worthwhile to say about Mormons. It sounds like the play is that way too, but with a lot of vulgarity and offensiveness towards God.

    I enjoy having a little fun poked at our way of life. Just watch the movies Baptists at the Barbecue, and the RM for plenty of good natured laughs. But these movies did it without mocking God or sacred things. I would like to see the play except for the vulgarity and disrespect of God.

    What does it say about our society that a Broadway play attracts so many by vulgarity and irreverence? Mormonism has a wonderful message that the heavens are open again, and all of God's blessings are once more available to all during mortal life. We want to share it with everyone. Yet so many refuse to even listen to us.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    May 12, 2013 6:34 a.m.

    Yes, some good may come from the curiosity the show arouses, but it is still mockery and it still causes harm in that for many others it just seems to create or harden a false and negative image of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    One sign of a follower of Jesus Christ is the ability to love one's enemies and pray for them which despitefully use you.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    May 11, 2013 9:01 p.m.

    Despite the fact that the Church has bought space in the playbill I firmly believe it is inaccurate to characterize this as sponsorship by the Church. Clearly the approach taken by the Church is nothing short of brilliant. I prefer, rather to characterize the Church's reactions to the Broadway show as inspired. Makes no sense for the Church to voice indignance. Just draws more attention to the show which the producers would love.($$$$)

  • GmaxD Lehi, UT
    May 11, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Personally, I think it's great that the performers of the play now know they are mocking the beliefs of real people. It's always nice when mockery has such a human dimension.

  • Barbara Wyly Guilford, IN
    May 11, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    The best way to handle someone laughing at you, is to laugh with them. When they see that you aren't offended, it loses a lot of its fun. Too many members of the church have a persecution syndrome-just like a lot of Jews and Muslims who get offended easily. We accomplish much more good with either good humor (i.e. "Read the Book) than we do with creating our own politically correct Jihad or Haulocaust mentality. Is South Park juvenile and sophomoric? Undoubtedly. But it isn't worth getting worked up over. Our good humor might actually change some opinions.

  • bigv56 Cottonwood, CA
    May 11, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    It sure is nice for the brilliant,benevolent theater folk to come down and meet the people they are trashing. Thanks for walking amongst us simple folk. Now hurry up and get back to broadway to trash on in the matinee.

    May 11, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    I currently live in upstate New York, and I know one of the men who took the cast on tour and they talked about the change they saw on the bus between going to the sites and returning back to Rochester. Very interesting.

    It seems to me that the musical adds interest in the Church and that is always a good thing. Better people know something about us than nothing!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    May 11, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    A lot of movies and literature that mock or attack the Church have actually turned out to be catalysts for people joining the Church. I think we'll see many come into the Church directly or indirectly as a result of this musical.

    However, it doesn't mean that those who wrote and promote this stuff won't be held accountable. God will not be mocked.

  • Igualmente Mesa, AZ
    May 11, 2013 9:05 a.m.

    Oh the joy and excited giddiness brought upon the patrons of this performance. Profanity and the mockery of someone else's faith seems to bring laughter and finger-pointing by all those who attend. Is there a four-letter word that isn't just hilarious..

    Within the covers of the Book of Mormon itself, it speaks of a great and spacious building full of people who mock the faith of those seeking to live righteously. Perhaps as the narrow path gets thinner, many will suffer the slings and arrows of those who deride that which is sacred.

    In turn, there is a true desire that our fellow brothers and sisters not be blinded or hearts hardened against His true plan of happiness. We often ask, how do you dross, dross? You can't. You do what Christ has always sought to do, love those who persecute you. That's why the Church challenges those who attend this production to seek answers for themselves.

    Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

  • Lolly Lehi, UT
    May 11, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    As my old salesmanager always said, "Any advertising is good advertising" The show may be something most will not see, but the advertising has given the Book of Mormon a forward leap.

  • killpack Sandy, UT
    May 11, 2013 1:24 a.m.

    To quote Paul: 'When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.' I used to love South Park. I watched it religiously. It was the highlight of my week. Then I turned 30 years old. There's more to life than funny TV shows, movies and musicals. I mean, grow up, Matt and Trey. You're like ten years older than me, yet still 'living the dream.' I don't mean to be preachy, but someone has to say it. I quit indulging in potty humor, and you know what? It actually feels pretty good. It feels good to not be a clown and for people to take you seriously.

  • Sandra N GLENDALE, AZ
    May 10, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    It wouldn't be politically correct to write one about Islam, and they might as well paint a target on their backs. I haven't seen the musical, don't plan to see it. It is enough for me that there are people out there including non-Mormons who stand with us that it isn't appropriate. They are a couple of guys who delight in the rude, the crude and unrefined.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    May 10, 2013 5:40 p.m.

    That's like saying in the '20's that those blackface shows that portrayed African Americans as they did, just made those people more "loveable". Right. This show is like the worst kind of ethnic jokes. And it isn't limited to Mormons. A song that uses several expletives in the title and lyrics about God, isn't just about Mormons. I'm flabbergasted that people of any religion (or who stand for mutual respect) would stand for that kind of reference to deity and that Jews, Blacks and others who have been the object of this kind of "loveable" putdowns would stand by and let us be the butt of jokes.

    That these actors tread on our sacred sites and pretend to compliment us while insulting us for commercial gain, is a slap in the face. Anyone who pays money to see this kind of hateful, mocking trash should take a deep look inside at what they are doing.

    And I also would just love to see these people try this with Islam...

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    May 10, 2013 4:54 p.m.


    Actually, the South Park guys readily admit they won't mock Islam for the very reasons you have pointed out.

    I see the Book of Mormon Musical as a plus, rather than a negative, for the LDS Church. I don't think we will get very many converts as a result of the musical, but as popular as the show has become (just saw a video where several cast members of Downton Abbey were attending a performance of the Book of Mormon musical in London) people might actually talk more to our missionaries which in turn might break down a few of the stereotypes they may have of Latter-day Saints.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    May 10, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    I've met many people who joined the church after hearing various preachers, pamphlets and movies which sought to discredit the LDS church. The people just couldn't reconcile the nature of the members they personally knew with the image being portrayed and they came to get the LDS side of things, were impressed in some way. Friendships or better understanding ensued from it if nothing else.

  • frugalfly PULLMAN, WA
    May 10, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    I would challenge the makers of this play to make the same kind of play about Islam... see how that would go over. I recommend they tour it all over the middle east. It would even be more poignant if they would star in it themselves and take it into Tehran or Saudi.... I'd be interested in seeing how that would shake down. Now that would be entertainment. Watch a play that is sarcastic and irreverent at its best and deplorable and offensive at its worse about a peaceable Christian religion that takes it in stride with longsuffering? ... yawn... too predictable....watchers laugh and snicker like children looking at a dirty magazine while the offended religious persons take the high road. Too predictable for me.

  • SantiagoL San Diego, CA
    May 10, 2013 11:21 a.m.

    You mean that behind all of the mockery and crude language is a genuine affection for Mormons? I knew it. Thank you.

  • jimliddle Dayton, NV
    May 10, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    "By all accounts the show is crude, vulgar and irreverent, and is known for poking the eye of organized religion in general and the LDS Church specifically."

    Actually, every account I've read emphasizes that underneath the irreverence is a palpable affection for Mormonism.

    "The church has even been purchasing advertising space in theater playbills, urging those who have seen the musical to 'read the book.'"

    I haven't seen the show, but now that the Church is sponsoring it, perhaps I should.